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On April 23 2011 07:56 TheDeli wrote: Woot! Thanks for the PM Djagulingu! Even though I didn't get to go on iCCup, for some reason it was telling me: "Incorrect password blargh!"
And all things considered I'm going to try to get good at Broodwar itself. It will influence on my SC2 gameplay indirectly but I'm already starting to reeeeally enjoy BW and its cartoonish graphics. For god knows what stupid reason, changing site password doesn't change server password. I changed server password and it's the same as the one in PM now.
On April 23 2011 12:18 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 20:41 Djagulingu wrote:On April 22 2011 12:06 Jonoman92 wrote: He can beat the zerg computer somtimes... but he loses to the P and T usually to give you some idea. Zerg computer is totally beatable except when he 4pools and a lot easier than P or T computers. T is meh, but P is good. I mean, it rocks. Up to now, I was: 1- DT rushed as T 2- 2gated as Z 3- 1gate teched as Z from P computer and he wiped the floor with me every single time. ... Another advice, when you get your iccup account, don't get nervous of laddering for a few reasons: 1- Mass gaming generally gains points. My current record is 21-48 and still have 1311 points. You're having a hard time against the protoss computer but you have a 21-48 record on iccup ? Any D player can beat the computer 1v3.... I beat zerg computer solely by muta microing but T&P, I have quite a hard time against. And there are players at D/D- level that are a lot worse than computer.
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Yeah. Since SC2 many brand new players came and actually a couple of those switched to BW. And since iccup and TL are right next to each other, a handful of these new players can be found on iccup nowadays. I'm one of these guys and I met a couple others. You just need to take some time and find them.
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So would you guys recommend me practicing against an I some builds I'd find on Liquipedia? And what builds would you recommend for a semi-aggressive Protoss player? Sorry for the fact that this post is short :p
Oh, by the way, I registered on iCCup before Djagulingu posted about the password change (v.v) and my ID is TheDeli. I'll be there later this night.
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On April 23 2011 18:16 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 12:18 endy wrote:On April 22 2011 20:41 Djagulingu wrote:On April 22 2011 12:06 Jonoman92 wrote: He can beat the zerg computer somtimes... but he loses to the P and T usually to give you some idea. Zerg computer is totally beatable except when he 4pools and a lot easier than P or T computers. T is meh, but P is good. I mean, it rocks. Up to now, I was: 1- DT rushed as T 2- 2gated as Z 3- 1gate teched as Z from P computer and he wiped the floor with me every single time. ... Another advice, when you get your iccup account, don't get nervous of laddering for a few reasons: 1- Mass gaming generally gains points. My current record is 21-48 and still have 1311 points. You're having a hard time against the protoss computer but you have a 21-48 record on iccup ? Any D player can beat the computer 1v3.... I beat zerg computer solely by muta microing but T&P, I have quite a hard time against. And there are players at D/D- level that are a lot worse than computer. Reading that statement empowered me to try out iCCup for the first time in my life.
I won 2 TvTs, one against a one-base, 2 fact, and another against a Wraith build. Considering that I'm a measly Random Gold player in SC2, I was actually surprised that I could win games on the infamous iCCup ladder.
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On April 24 2011 02:21 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 18:16 Djagulingu wrote:On April 23 2011 12:18 endy wrote:On April 22 2011 20:41 Djagulingu wrote:On April 22 2011 12:06 Jonoman92 wrote: He can beat the zerg computer somtimes... but he loses to the P and T usually to give you some idea. Zerg computer is totally beatable except when he 4pools and a lot easier than P or T computers. T is meh, but P is good. I mean, it rocks. Up to now, I was: 1- DT rushed as T 2- 2gated as Z 3- 1gate teched as Z from P computer and he wiped the floor with me every single time. ... Another advice, when you get your iccup account, don't get nervous of laddering for a few reasons: 1- Mass gaming generally gains points. My current record is 21-48 and still have 1311 points. You're having a hard time against the protoss computer but you have a 21-48 record on iccup ? Any D player can beat the computer 1v3.... I beat zerg computer solely by muta microing but T&P, I have quite a hard time against. And there are players at D/D- level that are a lot worse than computer. Reading that statement empowered me to try out iCCup for the first time in my life. I won 2 TvTs, one against a one-base, 2 fact, and another against a Wraith build. Considering that I'm a measly Random Gold player in SC2, I was actually surprised that I could win games on the infamous iCCup ladder. I guarantee you that if you reach C- you will be able to roll master league players like its nothing edit: at least the old C- guys, pre sc2.. I don't know how good c- are nowadays
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iCCup laddering is kind of random. If you play anyone and don't abuse, you are at the mercy of fate. Sometimes you will get lots of good players, other times you will get people who really don't know what they're doing. If you do abuse (that is, you play the same map all the time, ban people if they are from Korea, etc etc) then even very bad players can get points on iCCup.
I don't know what rank really means on iCCup anymore, but the Korean servers like Fish and Brainclan I expect still have a tonne of very good players as you climb points. Koreans also seem to be less afraid of facing smurfs, so you don't get weird players who have a decent record/points but play like crap because they refuse to play anyone they think is still climbing to their actual rank (ie anyone good).
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