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On April 12 2011 11:52 duckett wrote:
I'm a big JWD fan but calling the bro culture of TL terrible and publicizing his effort against it in the middle of a post full of porn is very ???
My thoughts exactly oh my god haahaha. "I'm very disappointed in TL for making women feel uncomfortable at TL. Also here's a bunch of pictures of a female body type which is unattainable for 95% of women just to make any women on this board feel really self-conscious. I have no idea what the male-gaze is. I am a wonderful feminist."
Not to say that I disagree with your point about bro-culture (though that wouldn't be my choice of words for a bunch of sexist young teenagers), it's perfectly valid. It's just that maybe you should try being a part of the solution rather than complaining about people who say rape (a tactless, but not gender specific term).
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Complete win for the One-minute puberty video and 4-year-old AMA. The rest was cool, too!
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Bisutopia19137 Posts
Damn you!!!! I dont know why but I keep having to rewatch that Katie Upton video! Thanks for the write up 
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On April 14 2011 10:54 BisuDagger wrote:Damn you!!!! I dont know why but I keep having to rewatch that Katie Upton video! Thanks for the write up
Omg me too. Soo adorable yet soo sexy
Thanks JWD, I still remember reading JWD blog 1, it was epic. Still is
Looking forward to the next one!
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Good work. Please keep contributing.
I stalked your non-TL blog this morning. Did you see Beach House live recently? I saw them in NYC and their last show in DC. Amazing. Looking forward to May when Fleet Foxes start touring.
You prompted me to register. Not easy finding people with shared interests working where I do. No one knows what a 'Starcraft' is and have only vaguely heard of Radiohead.
I do have an amazing girlfriend who goes to shows with me and will, on occasion, play a few games of Starjeweled. She does the jewel-breaking while I form our armies. We are a pretty deadly force.
Thanks again JWD!
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One Minute Puberty was pretty sweet, what a crazy video. Instantly shared on my FB :3
#8: I agree, even though I know I'm guilty of using it. I try to use "ravage" more often, although I guess that could have sexual overtones too, depending on the context. I'll work on that ^^
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kate upton has a new fan! I cant stop watching that video... she has something mesmerizing about her I dunno hehe
great music too. gonna bookmark your blog
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You are a bona fide bad ass JWD. I especially like #8. I always end up feeling like legitimate conversations on the internet do not work. Good for you for trying (and succeeding!), you have inspired me. I also second your comment about photoshopping beautiful women (and men). Makes. No. Sense. Thanks again for another great post!
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On April 13 2011 09:44 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 11:52 duckett wrote:
I'm a big JWD fan but calling the bro culture of TL terrible and publicizing his effort against it in the middle of a post full of porn is very ??? My thoughts exactly oh my god haahaha. "I'm very disappointed in TL for making women feel uncomfortable at TL. Also here's a bunch of pictures of a female body type which is unattainable for 95% of women just to make any women on this board feel really self-conscious. I have no idea what the male-gaze is. I am a wonderful feminist." Not to say that I disagree with your point about bro-culture (though that wouldn't be my choice of words for a bunch of sexist young teenagers), it's perfectly valid. It's just that maybe you should try being a part of the solution rather than complaining about people who say rape (a tactless, but not gender specific term).
I think you're making a tu-quoque argument here. Sure, he's a part of the community and part of the culture, but that doesn't make his complaint any less valid. The fact of the matter is, people should still refrain from using the word rape, regardless of whether or not JWD posts pictures of women in his blog series.
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Re: #8, you do have a point, but i wouldnt want to force the TL community into censoring themselves using my gender as a backup. i, myself, hate being told to censor my choice of words. part of the internet is being able to be yourself.
at work i have to turn on the word filter in my brain, but when im at home/with friends/on the internets, i dont want to have to worry about that.
i feel using the word rape to describe gameplay will disappear slowly on its own as more and more females join the community and having role models(commentators) describing gameplay using more 'appropriate words' for the viewers. its not something that will disappear overnight and i would not try to enforce it.
you can add "steam-rolled" to your list of words:>
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I agree with the whole thing about people using 'rape', makes me sick. Theres a million other words u can use, I prefer 'owned' and if the situation really calls for it 'FUCKEN OWNED NOOB' is better than rape.
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Conflating pornography with the female models JWD's libido has deposited (or thrust or inserted) into #1 and #10 (when potpourri) of every blog entry so far, and equating those manifestations of JWD's libido with the latent chauvinism or even misogyny implied by use of the word "rape" (not to mention how explicit this misogyny is in gaming culture and on the Internet overall), is infinitely worse than deterring people from salient misogyny by harping on their language. Don't want to get into fisticuffs over whether erotic representation is inherently violent, but certainly blurring the semantics of the word and therefore concept of "rape" is at best avoided, right?
Burial only really clicked for me like two weeks ago. I haven't listened to Street Halo yet, but his first two albums are hard to proselytize for without using synonyms for "absorbs light."
On April 11 2011 09:33 Sliver wrote:
New Burial EP is great...what else do you listen to? I lean torwards Burial/James Blake/Boards of Canada/AFX/ etc..anything else worth checking out?
I assume you know Autechre. What about Seefeel, Burger/Ink, µ-Ziq, and Mouse on Mars?
+ Show Spoiler [seefeel - spangle] +
+ Show Spoiler [burger/ink - the jealous guy from memp…] +
+ Show Spoiler [µ-ziq - tango 'n vectiff] +
+ Show Spoiler [mouse on mars - tux & damask] +
(edit/disclaimer: I have never listened to James Blake.)
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Awesome post as usual.
A new EP you should check out Childish Gambino EP
Donald Glover is the fucking man and his music under alias Childish Gambino is so good! That new EP is his best yet, but his full album Culdesac (free download here) is pretty damn good too. And all of his music is always free, as he makes money from acting, writing and touring. He's planning to release a full album this summer.
He also did a remix of Sufjan Stevens' album Illinois, called Illin-Noise and under the alias mc DJ. Link
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I have heard tales of this blog and I have to say this almost surpasses the hype. Great stuff, enjoy the videos and image galleries more than anything.
I also appreciate your sense of logic and rhetoric when arguing the use of the word "rape". You seem to be avoiding fallacies and it makes for actual interesting discussion to read.
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On April 11 2011 15:48 GulpyBlinkeyes wrote:
A Blind Pilot song that I got turned on to from one of your earlier blogs came up on shuffle as I was driving home from work today and it got me wondering when you'd be posting a new one. Lo and behold!
this is cool. thanks for posting, and I'm glad you like that album!
On April 12 2011 04:12 Aberu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 03:45 huameng wrote:On April 12 2011 03:36 Aberu wrote:On April 11 2011 23:34 huameng wrote:On April 11 2011 23:06 goiflin wrote:On April 11 2011 13:32 JWD wrote:On April 11 2011 13:24 -yoda wrote:
you should take off "own" as well from that list if your so bent on removing words on the internet that target a selective crowd. yeah and demolish should go too. for the construction workers! You joke, but "owning" someone does relate to slavery. If you think rape should go, anything that could offend should go too. This argument doesn't make any sense. Literally anything could offend. Instead, we should be removing things that actually offend; I think we'll have a hard enough time with that. And certainly there are more people offended by the word "rape" on this forum than the word "own", (as demonstrated by this thread and the previous thread on the use of "rape") and we should start by removing the more offensive features of our society before moving on to the lesser ones, right? Also when rape is used on the internet as in video game culture, there's no reason to assume it's referring to a man raping a woman. I'd bet it's about a man raping another man. I don't have any real reason to believe that except when a man tells another man he's going to rape you, it seems weird to assume he'd mean it in any other way. The argument is a counter-appeal to ridicule, showing that him ridiculing that idea, is ridiculous in itself. I personally don't use the word rape in this way, because I do feel like it may offend someone, but I don't want to push my judgements on other people, since I can't accurately say that they mean it in a mysoginistic way. There is a difference between the argument "people are being offended by this, so you should stop saying it" and "people could be offended by this, so you should stop saying it" JWD is making the former argument, with regard to "rape", and the appeal to absurdity wrt "own" was of the form of the latter, so JWD's ridicule is not ridiculous. Well, it might be, but it being ridiculous doesn't mean the argument against "rape" is. The point is that JWD may influence some about the word, and that's good, but the name-calling, the obvious attempt to say that he isn't part of the problem that keeps women out of Teamliquid, and yet he is. There are just so many things wrong with him posting publicly about this, decrying so many people. He even posted an argument that he sorely lost against one of the "insensitively lazy" people. He basically said he had a right to be condescending, which is wrong, and he did say some presumptuous things about the person in question. Just the overall attitude, is bad. I feel by exposing the logical fallacies in his debate tactics, and his hypocritical actions (due to past postings of very potentially offensive videos and pictures), maybe he will settle down on the self-righteousness a bit.
@Aberu: wow! This is a solid roast. I think you're blasting me in many of the same ways I did myself in the OP. I admitted to being condescending, said my PM was douchey, that I represented my position terribly in that PM exchange, and that it's a "hard sell" to approach the issue like I did. On those counts you're just reiterating my shortcomings (which is ofc fine).
One thing I object to (and you're not the only one to have mentioned this) is that I can't touch this issue because my blogs are also "offensive" for including pictures and video of beautiful women. I don't follow this at all. Admiring female/male beauty isn't callous or off-putting like misusing "rape" is. My posts are certainly part of TL's "bro culture" — but I was careful about this in my OP; note I said "some elements of this bro culture are dispensable". Misusing "rape" is dispensable — it's relatively off-putting and, importantly, it adds no discernible value here. It's just not at all important that we cling to misusing this word when there are many equally satisfying alternatives. Being able to post/view a picture of a good-looking woman on TL, though, has a pretty high value. And unless it's done really tactlessly (which I try hard to avoid) it's not offensive at all.
In general I'm having trouble figuring out how exactly you disagree with my broader points about the word. Seems you also don't think "rape" should be used to mean "beat overwhelmingly", and you would rather TLers wouldn't use it this way. So you're just objecting to my approach? If this is true you are being quite heavy handed.
On April 14 2011 23:42 kittymakemybed wrote:
Good work. Please keep contributing.
I stalked your non-TL blog this morning. Did you see Beach House live recently? I saw them in NYC and their last show in DC. Amazing. Looking forward to May when Fleet Foxes start touring.
You prompted me to register. Not easy finding people with shared interests working where I do. No one knows what a 'Starcraft' is and have only vaguely heard of Radiohead.
I do have an amazing girlfriend who goes to shows with me and will, on occasion, play a few games of Starjeweled. She does the jewel-breaking while I form our armies. We are a pretty deadly force.
Thanks again JWD!
no problem! Will do. I did see Beach House recently — they were in Philly this spring. (Also saw them here on their first Teen Dream tour, a year ago.) They're always phenomenal live, but this time around they had so many more fans! I was wowed; I'd never seen the venue nearly as crowded. Deserved, to be sure. One of my favorite bands.
All of Fleet Foxes' NYC shows are sold out  so I might end up traveling back to Philadelphia to see them at a reasonable price.
Welcome to TL!
I am totally balking at your Starjeweled reference, but I feel I should be picking up on it. What's it about? Did I inadvertently bring up something Starjeweled-related in my OP? For some reason I suspect it has to do with something completely non-TL-related...
On April 15 2011 06:51 Zafrumi wrote:
kate upton has a new fan! I cant stop watching that video... she has something mesmerizing about her I dunno hehe
completely agree. so charming
@jon arbuckle: as usual I really enjoyed your post. I'll be looking into those music recommendations.
@Tyler: sup! Downloaded all that stuff. "iamdonald" is familiar but I don't think I've listened to him before. looking forward to it.
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On April 15 2011 13:34 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Awesome post as usual. A new EP you should check out Childish Gambino EPDonald Glover is the fucking man and his music under alias Childish Gambino is so good! That new EP is his best yet, but his full album Culdesac ( free download here) is pretty damn good too. And all of his music is always free, as he makes money from acting, writing and touring. He's planning to release a full album this summer. He also did a remix of Sufjan Stevens' album Illinois, called Illin-Noise and under the alias mc DJ. Link
Tyler's taste in music. Absolutely sick.
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On April 15 2011 22:38 JWD wrote:
@jon arbuckle: as usual I really enjoyed your post. I'll be looking into those music recommendations.
Seefeel in particular absorbed dream pop into dub on Polyfusia and Quique and then evaporated off the excess for Succour, one of the best records from Warp. Richard D. James was a big fan (his "Time to Find Me" remixes are canon). For a Beach House fan, you should get a kick out of them.
Youtubes below, although it seems most of their songs on there are transcode or horribly distorted. Not representative at all.
+ Show Spoiler [time to find me (come inside)] +From More Like Space EP, 1993, and reissued on Polyfusia:
+ Show Spoiler [plainsong] +
+ Show Spoiler [extract] +
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On April 15 2011 13:34 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Awesome post as usual. A new EP you should check out Childish Gambino EPDonald Glover is the fucking man and his music under alias Childish Gambino is so good! That new EP is his best yet, but his full album Culdesac ( free download here) is pretty damn good too. And all of his music is always free, as he makes money from acting, writing and touring. He's planning to release a full album this summer. He also did a remix of Sufjan Stevens' album Illinois, called Illin-Noise and under the alias mc DJ. Link
I listened to Childish Gambino EP on your suggestion and I'm very impressed. It's like a clever mix of Kanye with Lil Wayne and I can definitely get behind that combo. Great stuff.
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