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I think InControl + TotalBiscuit would be an awesome combination. The Overly British Bugger with the Average American Asshole.
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Techno
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InControl TotalBiscuit Khaldor Artosis Day9 I think InControl + TotalBiscuit would be an awesome combination. The Overly British Bugger with the Average American Asshole. | ||
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rocky13
Canada70 Posts
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WLV
Canada76 Posts
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BADSMCGEE
United States94 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On February 27 2011 04:03 ImHuko wrote: 10-20 people told me about it while it was happening, unless it was a coordinated troll, I am pretty confident it happened.. Kelly posted about it but removed it because she misunderstood the post she responded to, that is why I said "I think". I agree with you, I would have to be some sort of crazyperson to make something like that up Nah dude. She was getting rape/death threats long before I did any impersonation of her. It's also pretty dumb to try and make me take credit for people making those threats. | ||
Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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phoenixe17
United States13 Posts
It was a shitty string of events and the criticism was met with sarcasm and a lot of people felt he was just dismissing what people were saying. I don't think people are flipping out he streamed GSL but that he asked for a stream than banned said streamer when he didn't like what they were saying in the chat of the stream(Reddit flips out over censorship, which is where I assume most of whatever TL hate goes on at Reddit stems from). I don't want to see you change too much from how you are iNcontrol, just keep in mind when dealing with "random gaming forum poster" on the forums that they are going to be customers and you can't use sarcasm and dismissive responses when they raise criticism against you. Another thing people despise is do as I say not as I do type of people so just echo what you expect from the community and we will do the same for you. As a watcher of all your content out there keep up the good work and don't move too far away from the iNcontrol everyone knows and loves <3. | ||
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nbaker
United States1341 Posts
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Bloodash
Netherlands1384 Posts
more respect for casters who aren't doing Inception level deep analysis of games they are casting, you can't expect every caster to be a pro gamer + pro commentator as yourself Incontrol, we know you can be professional and you definitely should be towards other casters, they are not your enemies. (I do agree they should do whatever they can to improve themselves, if they won't they probably won't last anyway) non constructive criticism: definitely more hair whipping back and forth | ||
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Monsieur
Canada71 Posts
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
I think putting someone as the English caster for a major event, when their spoken English is simply (IMO) unacceptable, was a mistake. Her pronunciation is poor, she is difficult to understand (especially when she talks fast), and her voice is downright annoying. I tried to watch it and had to turn it off after 5 minutes because it was so terrible. You were right to make fun of it, and shouldn't apologize. Speak your mind, ignore the haters, and let the pieces fall where they may. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
I like that he did this, that his apology was public. A lot of people in this thread said he shouldn't have done it and that the concessions to his critics will impact his performance due to his personality/character not being as present any longer. I couldn't agree less. Being a public persona and a spokesperson for a whole enterprise, appeasing critics and accepting personal responsibilty is a right and mature thing to do. People do emotional and short-sighted things and make mistakes. Incontrol did it (and apologized), but random fans and scene followers do it as well. My guess is a lot of people that chimed in to the general outcry following this whole drama don't really have any issues with Incontrol. But it's fun to not like someone, it's entertaining to be one of two polarized sides and thus a lot of people will eagerly dislike Goeff even though they don't really know him and couldn't care less about what he does or doesn't do. That's why people gossip and read tabloids, and we Starcraft people aren't better than the rest. I'll freely admit that I was amongst those. I don't know Incontrol but I quickly sided with the critics. Might have to do that I don't like his "in your face" attitude; he's a very outspoken type and I prefer subtle people. But hey, to each his own. But you know what? This apology is all I need to respect this guy. He took the responsibilty. Bravo. He took the blame without faltering and thus showed traits that might come in very handy when managing the NASL: honesty and integrity. | ||
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
However as a figurehead I know you'll have to be politically correct somewhat so it's nice to see you shoulder that responsibility. Anyway I don't really know whats this about but I'm behind you buddy. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On February 27 2011 04:53 Techno wrote: I think the NASL would be awesome with the following casters: InControl TotalBiscuit Khaldor Artosis Day9 I think InControl + TotalBiscuit would be an awesome combination. The Overly British Bugger with the Average American Asshole. Not singling any casters out, but that list has some serious disparity between game knowledge and ability. Simply put, some of those casters know what they're talking about and some have no clue. | ||
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ImHuko
United States996 Posts
On February 27 2011 05:39 iNcontroL wrote: Nah dude. She was getting rape/death threats long before I did any impersonation of her. It's also pretty dumb to try and make me take credit for people making those threats. Oops sorry about that then. People call me terrible, but in every way possible that is just wrong. | ||
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
 i hope he does not get bored being a upstanding role model for everyone gl | ||
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
Be direct and concise if you are apologising. END OF MATTER. | ||
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Robellicose
England245 Posts
I respect you for doing this. it is always hard to own up when you've done something wrong, and ten times so over the internet. I personally believe that people would not be giving you this much stick if the mistakes you're owning up to happened around the NASL announcement. In a way, it's good that the community is expecting so much from you - If you match their expectations, which from your OP I imagine you will, it will improve your image and the image of professional starcraft. Best of luck with the NASL, keep cracking the jokes that originally made me find you hilarious and entertaining as a caster - I don't want those to disappear now that you have a more public casting job. P.S. the showmatch was not as bad as everyone seems to love saying. For one, I thought Gretorp and yourself were a very good commentating partnership. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 27 2011 06:24 hmunkey wrote: Not singling any casters out, but that list has some serious disparity between game knowledge and ability. Simply put, some of those casters know what they're talking about and some have no clue. You'd be better off just coming out and saying it rather than being passive-aggressive. On the flip-side, there is also a serious disparity in broadcast training. Some of us have it, some don't. Game knowledge is not the only skill you require to commentate at a professional level and it is not the only thing you can bring to the table in a co-commentary situation. | ||
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rkffhk
474 Posts
On February 27 2011 07:58 TotalBiscuit wrote: You'd be better off just coming out and saying it rather than being passive-aggressive. On the flip-side, there is also a serious disparity in broadcast training. Some of us have it, some don't. Game knowledge is not the only skill you require to commentate at a professional level and it is not the only thing you can bring to the table in a co-commentary situation. Agreed. Example: Jason Lee | ||
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