Let's talk about it - Page 20

On February 26 2011 18:58 Sylvr wrote:
Saying that iNcontroL was restreaming GSL is stretching the term to it's outermost limits. I was there, live, as it happened. I can tell you that, though it was on screen periodically, one could HARDLY consider that restreaming. Most of that [very short] period of time was spent clicking on links from his stream chat or stuff that JP linked him to which mostly contained random .gifs and youtube videos. Very little screen-time was allotted to the GSL. During the short spans when it WAS on, it was muted, non-fullscreen, and he and JP and IdrA were merely commenting on the games.

It was basically like the Mystery Science Theater 3000 (MST3K) crew was watching a few SC2 games and constantly getting distracted by shiny things on the Internet.

Furthermore, when an Admin of JTV got into the stream chat and got iNcontroL's attention to notify him that he wasn't allowed to stream GOM, he instantly stopped.



The above is 1 of the 3 "infringements" that people keep bringing up. The other 2 are asking for a link to a restream/banning Huko (I put them together because apart, they aren't a big deal at all), and doing Kelly impressions.

Now, the issue concerning Kelly was blown so far out of proportion that it makes my head hurt. It should be stated first that he and Kelly knew each other before there was any controversy. Second, impressions of people is something iNcontroL has been known for a long time now, and I would hope that everyone knows by now that there's no ill will behind them.

As I understand it, Kelly asked him directly to ease up on the impressions, and he promptly apologized to her personally and stopped. Furthermore, I can attest personally that he had been banning several people from his stream for talking bad about her. There is no animosity here. Kelly comes to his stream all the time to chat and hang out. Hell, I'm guessing that Kelly asking him to stop had more to do with her own situation dealing with the community over her GSL casting than it did with her being offended.



From what I've been able to put together, the 3rd situation started when he asked in his stream chat for a link to a restream for the GSL. Why he did that, I couldn't say. He's stated in the past that he's had trouble with the GOM website, and I know for a fact that the GOM player stream was down for a fair amount of time that night (and I was using the pay stream, so it goes without saying that the free stream was down too). I had to find a URL for VLC player just to watch Jinro.

But anyway, so he gets a link to a restream, which happens to be Huko. I wasn't there for this, but what I heard is that there was a lot of trash talk going on in Huko's stream specifically against iNcontroL. I don't know if it was in his chat or if he was saying the stuff to his stream. In any case, iNcontroL was there listening to it for a while (supposedly about an hour). Eventually, he got fed up with it, went to ban Huko for restreaming, and found that Huko had, in fact, been banned for restreaming GOM before.

THAT BEING SAID, he probably should have let it go. It was somewhat hypocritical of him to ban Huko for restreaming when he was the one asking for a link to a restream. Personally, I feel that his own association with restreaming from the past was unfortunate, but I don't think that THAT incident should have had any bearing on his decision to ban Huko.



So, as you can see, 2 of these 3 situations were blown WAY WAY WAY out of proportion.
The 3rd situation would have me a little red in the face, but certainly does NOT warrant this kind of backlash. More importantly, NONE OF THESE INCIDENTS ARE RELATED! People keep getting all the facts mixed up and it turns into some giant scandal, and it's bullshit. People keep painting iNcontroL as the bad guy here, but that's so obviously not the case.

The worst part of all of this is that people keep bringing up the NASL. Why?!? It has NOTHING to do with this. Do people really think that iNcontroL being himself on his stream and SotG is going to affect the NASL whatsoever? I mean seriously, the NASL is certainly going to make eSports and SC2 bigger, but it's not like it's going to become a household name overnight. If sponsors and the such DID care about all this crap going down here, it's ONLY because people are making such a huge deal out of it. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You whip 50 nerds up into a frenzy shouting that someone is making eSports look bad and get a dozen threads up to 20 pages and of COURSE sponsors are going to look at that say "Hmmm, this is getting some bad publicity, we'd better step in", when all you had to do from the start was get the whole goddamn story before posting and realize that it's not even worth mentioning!


/rant

I could say so much more, but this is already an epic wall of text that I doubt very many people will even bother reading.

On February 26 2011 22:52 bistri wrote:

@kelly "incident" i love her, she's great and i fully support her, but she speaks funny and thats the fact. Making fun of something is the most normal thing in the world and stereotypes are base of 90% of jokes.

If u "change" yourself on TL/SOTG beacuse of bunch of internet trolls, than you become a little bitch. And i for sure wont watch your stream or listen to SOTG cuz thats who you are and why people love you.
Proffesionalisam aside, if you are not speaking OFFICIALY IN NASL NAME, you have full rights to speak your mind.