EPTTherefore, all self-titled builds are not stupid or arrogant.
Some can be frickin awesome.
QED, /thread, /discussion, /conversation, initiate party.
Self-Titled Build Orders - Opinions? - Page 2
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43517 Posts
Therefore, all self-titled builds are not stupid or arrogant. Some can be frickin awesome. QED, /thread, /discussion, /conversation, initiate party. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43517 Posts
On February 24 2011 01:32 zer0das wrote: Really dumb. No one is going to remember you in 5 years, because you're probably a nobody. Especially when your alias is terrible. Bisu Build say what? ...even though iirc, he didn't come up with it first... he just popularized it. | ||
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Synystyr
United States1446 Posts
 I guess people don't really like it too much when people name things after themselves!Unless it's the Tasteless build, of course. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Also, Bisu is a progamer who actually has some real influence. Not some random scrub who will never win anything. Which is the entire point- the only people that will remembered will be the ones who actually have some really tangible impact on the game. | ||
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
Also I like the idea of having a 'brand' where people who like my builds can search for others and also have an expectation of quality when they see my name. I could make up a random label or title but that sounds pointless. Is that unreasonable? Hope that clears up at least my pov. | ||
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Synystyr
United States1446 Posts
On February 24 2011 04:22 iEchoic wrote: The idea behind the naming is that it designates the build as an original build. I plan to write up guides for builds I did not create and then when the name is absent it makes it clear it is not an original build. My build was titled as the 2fact2port build (or hellion/air) not the iEchoic build, also. Hope that clears up at least my pov. Right, my mindset was pretty much the same as yours. I had never seen any type of mass Banshee usage against Protoss when I developed the build. My build is also titled "FE 4 Port Banshee", and not "THE Synystyr build". I'd like to think my idea behind it was original in a sense however. I also made a guide on a 2 Rax FE opening, where I deliberately left my name out because I didn't think it was completely original, just something I felt should be laid out in text form for others to use. Thanks for your input though, I was hoping to hear from you  | ||
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule18934 Posts
On February 24 2011 00:51 intrigue wrote: Chill and I were looking through Liquipedia one day at some super generic build guide, it was like 14 pool 15 hatch or something. All the edits are documented, and after a long list of contributions and fixes by Liquipedia staff this one kid kid had made one final edit: to Fuck I think you'll be happy to know that I can not find any stupid names like that. If you see any, please post in the LP feedback thread so I can destroy the edit. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
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chocopan
Japan986 Posts
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
i dunno i don't care, let nature take its course if someone makes a build and names it after themselves and it sucks and we start calling it the douchebag build then so be it at the end of the day the only thing that matters is if you won or lost and how much money you won or lost. | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
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Synystyr
United States1446 Posts
I personally don't mind a little bit of self promotion here and there. 2Fact2Port is such a solid build, I don't mind that iEchoic has placed his name with it. We wouldn't have seen anything like it otherwise if he didn't post about it and he deserves the credit. However things like Griffith's Magic Box or Stalife drops are not original so the self titling there is inappropriate in my opinion. | ||
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Gnial
Canada907 Posts
Its often not the build that people are trying to put their names on, but rather the guide and the explanation that they have given. (Note that just because someone puts their name at the start of a thread, it does not obligate anyone to refer to it as such, and I can probably speak for all the other guide makers when I say that we don't care what other people call it.) What a named thread does do: It allows for the separation of otherwise similarly named guides and builds. It allows for a really easy search in the team liquid search bar. Allows for easy reference to a specific build/guide. "look for the gateway fast-expand build on team liquid", for instance, contains a significant amount of ambiguity. Anyone who thinks negatively about it either didn't think of the practical benefits of there being a name, doesn't appreciate the effort involved, or should look at the reason why they feel the resentment. (I just assume that the person is afflicted with a combination of insecurity, attention jealousy and pettyness) I'm not reading this thread anymore because there is something unsatisfying about reading some of the flames. Instead of complaining in this thread perhaps you should try...oh I don't know...contributing to the community? edit. And props to iEchoic for being more respectful than myself. Quite frankly, I don't think the complainers deserve it. The voting results in particular reads like an unjustified "fuck you" to me. edit2. I only speak for the guides/builds that required a lot of time and effort. | ||
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Synystyr
United States1446 Posts
On February 25 2011 09:05 Gnial wrote: Take a look at all those builds, and the effort involved in them, and the impact they have had on many people's game. I've switched to Terran both times iEchoic posted his new builds and have had a blast executing them (I didn't have to spend time learning the T meta prior to switching). After kcdc's build was posted there was a fascinating change in the way many P's and T's played at the high levels. Its often not the build that people are trying to put their names on, but rather the guide and the explanation that they have given. (Note that just because someone puts their name at the start of a thread, it does not obligate anyone to refer to it as such, and I can probably speak for all the other guide makers when I say that we don't care what other people call it.) What a named thread does do: It allows for the separation of otherwise similarly named guides and builds. It allows for a really easy search in the team liquid search bar. Allows for easy reference to a specific build/guide. "look for the gateway fast-expand build on team liquid", for instance, contains a significant amount of ambiguity. Anyone who thinks negatively about it either didn't think of the practical benefits of there being a name, doesn't appreciate the effort involved, or should look at the reason why they feel the resentment. (I just assume that the person is afflicted with a combination of insecurity, attention jealousy and pettyness) I'm not reading this thread anymore because there is something unsatisfying about reading some of the flames. Instead of complaining in this thread perhaps you should try...oh I don't know...contributing to the community? edit. And props to iEchoic for being more respectful than myself. Quite frankly, I don't think the complainers deserve it. The voting results in particular reads like an unjustified "fuck you" to me. edit2. I only speak for the guides/builds that required a lot of time and effort. Thanks a lot for posting Gnial! I really do agree with you here. Especially about the part that speaks about the results....I do feel a little pissed that the effort I put into a thread may be completely overlooked because I put my name on it...ah well. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
As long as the person doesn't actively try to promote himself through self-naming builds, I think it's good for the player base to attach names and personalities to various terms and builds that they use. It adds quite a bit of life and personality to the metagame, and it's nice to have alternative names as a treat for experienced players. | ||
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