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On January 12 2011 05:34 Lurtzer wrote: Ok I never wrote something on thread like that, because i am here in TL because of SC obviously, but after reading this i was pretty shocked. The exact same thing happened to me 4 months ago. Only diference was that the girl was little older then 16. I was in front of same question as you are now. What i did? I was just being calm and gave here all time she needed. She eventually broke up with him and start dating me. Sounds like a happy end right? But problem was that her ex-boyfriend came to her and ask her to come back to him in tears. She couldnt handle that and broke up with me. She said that she cant throw away 3 years with him like that. I was really down after that, but now I can say one thing. I will never ever ever ever even consider starting something with girl, who got boyfriend for a long time. Its just my experience, but good luck man and sorry about my poor english...:-)
You're english is fine man, thanks for your experience. That's a bit worrying. As far as I can tell, she's already broken up with him as far as she is concerned. Before today what happened to you was the thing I was most worried about, but I'm going to risk it. I guess I'll try and keep my distance until I'm sure she's not going to go running back.
P.S. Nony is streaming, hell yeah.
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On January 12 2011 03:58 enzym wrote: Advice: Step away from it. Mother nature is controlling your brain (hormones are a powerful thing), as well as those of these other two lovebirds. You don't want to help her. All you want is to satisfy that instinct that has taken you over. The same instinct that made her bond with him and that same instinct that is now making it hard for them to accept a break-up, AND that same instinct that is going to make it hard for you in the end, because you know relationships usually don't last forever, because humans don't last forever, but also because relationships are not required to last forever in order to fulfill their function.
Just realize that it is not you who wants her (except as a kind of drug maybe to satisfy your desire) but your animalistic heritage that has taken you over, and leave it be. Raw and cheer science. I love it
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stay away 110%
the issue with girls like that is tend to
1- batshit crazy, and you dont want that period 2- unsure of their decision, which will end poorly for you in a short while via break up 3- ex-bf causes tons of drama and that will end poorly for you and poorly for him too
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On January 12 2011 05:50 LittLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 03:58 enzym wrote: Advice: Step away from it. Mother nature is controlling your brain (hormones are a powerful thing), as well as those of these other two lovebirds. You don't want to help her. All you want is to satisfy that instinct that has taken you over. The same instinct that made her bond with him and that same instinct that is now making it hard for them to accept a break-up, AND that same instinct that is going to make it hard for you in the end, because you know relationships usually don't last forever, because humans don't last forever, but also because relationships are not required to last forever in order to fulfill their function.
Just realize that it is not you who wants her (except as a kind of drug maybe to satisfy your desire) but your animalistic heritage that has taken you over, and leave it be. Raw and cheer science. I love it
Ha, yeah man I was gonna say enzym, I think we might have a different perspective on things. I just kind of want a lady friend to hug and talk about nice things with, you know?
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Be really tender, forward and into it, then stop and pull back. Get distant and let her know you doubt if it should happen and that you can't trust yourself around her. Then fuck her.
wait, how old are you
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On January 12 2011 06:15 KurtistheTurtle wrote: Be really tender, forward and into it, then stop and pull back. Get distant and let her know you doubt if it should happen and that you can't trust yourself around her. Then fuck her.
wait, how old are you
37.
..j/k, 20. Why?
Also, no hit it and quit its. That ain't how I roll.
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90% chance that if you had no emotional attachment to this girl, such as if you were a third party, you would think the same thing as the majority of folks here. This story is riddled with red flags that adults avoid like the plague. Most importantly-- don't date at the work place.
If you told this girl that you wanted to just be friends, would she go chasing back to her boyfriend after their "break." Sounds like she would, but I just have one perspective over the medium of text. Would you want a girl that would do that? Sounds like she likes relationships more than her actual boyfriends.
Hell with all these red flags can you honestly say you're not just wanting a relationship? What makes this girl special other than the fact she's giving you attention?
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On January 12 2011 05:07 JackMcCoy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I understand your feelings. I was once like you.
Ah, to be young and in love. I remember that summer in Paris, a swaggering fool and a head flush with vigor and passions. I sat in the shadow of the Sacré-Cœur as Charles Aznavour crooned out of a nearby radio, “Dans son nouveau décor/Montmartre semble triste/Et les lilas sont mort.” Perhaps for him, Montmatre was lost, but to me it was the only place in the world. It was there, sitting outside a small café on the Place du Tertre, when I saw her first. Her hair danced and pulled in the light wind as she surveyed the square, looking for a corner to set up her easel. For 45 minutes I watched her with intense curiosity, trying to pick out every detail and guess its significance. I fell in love with her pouted lips, her sinewy, graceful musculature and her defiant, firebrand eyes. So lost was I in fantasy that I near failed to notice her starting to leave. I started to sweat and panic as my mind and heart raced towards an impossible frenzy. This was my chance, my one and only opportunity to risk my ego, risk my shame and expose my very humanity to attain my desire.
I hurried across the square, arriving at her breathless and dizzy but empowered by the liberating release of caution and care. “Hi, I’m Jack,” I breathed between my desperate suppression of panting, focusing every square inch of mental acuity contained in my brain on keeping calm and steady. “Charlotte,” she replied, smiling with an enchanting shyness as she broke eye contact and blushed. “Charlotte. That’s beautiful. Would you like to go for dinner tonight, Charlotte? I know I’m not from around here, but I know some great places and…” She tilted her head slightly and looked away. “Sorry, I cannot. I’m sorry.” I struggled for something, anything to say to make her change her mind, but instead I simply nodded and shrugged the most cowardly shrug any man has ever pathetically offered. She turned slowly on her heel with a polite smile, and we were so close the tips of her hair flew up and brushed my face to taunt me. “I don’t even know you, but know I will miss you,” I said as she moved away. She took 5 steps before stopping. Her hand shot into her carrier bag and returned with a corner of iridescent paper torn from her sketch pad. She wrote elegantly with a small nub of charcoal and handed me the small leaf with the instructions, “Don’t smudge it,” before she turned and was whisked away into the faceless crowd. I looked down at the writing. “14 rue de cléry. 8 pm. if you are sure.”
I spun around on the spot, light-headed and ecstatic. I wanted to burst with excitement. I thought of reaching out, of grabbing the nearest passing Frenchman and telling him of my wild, magnificent victory. I left the square and headed back to my hotel to change my clothes and prepare myself.
The taxi pulled up outside 14 rue de cléry at 5 minutes to 8. Thankfully, the horrendous traffic and anxiety over being late kept my mind from being too occupied with my self-doubts, my nerves and my oppressive imagination. I stepped out of the cab, tipping the driver handsomely for his deft navigation, and turned towards the cobblestone path that led to the formidable, impressive residence. I rang the doorbell twice before hearing her voice from above. She was calling out the window, “Come in, please. I will be right down.” I entered warily, and found perched on the edge of an expensive-feeling ottoman. I heard delicate footsteps approach, and I turned to greet her when a diminutive, tanned fellow appeared from behind the doorway with a camera crew in tow.
“Why don’t you take a seat over there?” He gestured towards a stool that sat beside a marble countertop bar. I stood, confused, and looked around the room for Charlotte. “Right over there. Just take a seat right over there,” he said, with more conviction in his voice. Nervous and somewhat disoriented, I complied and sat in the stool. “So what are you doing here tonight?” he prodded. “I’m – I’m here to meet someone. She – I think I may be in the wrong house…” He grinned slightly and flicked a glance at the camera before he said it. “Were you coming here to sleep with a 15 year old girl today? Because we have these images…” He pulled some pictures from behind the counter that must have been us, together in the square earlier in the day. I couldn’t be sure as my eyes had lost their ability to focus and my head swirled. I stumbled back off the stool and lurched toward the door. I had little coordination and less idea where I was headed as they called out after me. I burst through the front door and through the waiting arms of the French policeman standing guard. The cobblestone path swept along underneath my feet like a river. I lost my balance and fell to the earth. That’s when the dogs came. I looked up at the gorgeous Paris night sky as the Rottweiler sunk his teeth into my ankle, and I felt the tendon snap. Fucking Montmarte. Is there a part 2?
Don't leave me here with a tear in my eye, I need to know what happened afterwards!
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@The KY- Are you desperate to be in a relationship with this girl? If not, take your time and get to know her before you step into her life as a boyfriend. She has had a boyfriend for three years right? It's going to take her a while to get over him, no matter how long she's been feeling the way she does. The saying "Love never dies" is true because she will always have feelings for him deep inside, no matter what. You obviously came on TL looking advice on what you should do and I think you should approach cautiously. Because no matter what, you have emotions too. You will become emotionally attached to her. You say right now that "Hell, I can take that 3 years from now." But you don't know who you will be in three years. You don't know if you will fall madly in love with her, do you? She can easily do the same thing to you as she did to him. Just approach cautiously and look out for yourself. Be selfish in these kind of situations so that you don't get hurt.
Edit: I just read that she is almost 17 and you are 20. She is not going to me mature enough for you. Trust me on this.
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On January 12 2011 06:17 VonLego wrote: 90% chance that if you had no emotional attachment to this girl, such as if you were a third party, you would think the same thing as the majority of folks here. This story is riddled with red flags that adults avoid like the plague. Most importantly-- don't date at the work place.
If you told this girl that you wanted to just be friends, would she go chasing back to her boyfriend after their "break." Sounds like she would, but I just have one perspective over the medium of text. Would you want a girl that would do that? Sounds like she likes relationships more than her actual boyfriends.
Hell with all these red flags can you honestly say you're not just wanting a relationship? What makes this girl special other than the fact she's giving you attention?
She's...got...pretty eyes? She makes me smile? Seriously though I don't actually know whether I really like her or if I just think I really like her because it's been a little while. Guess I'll find out.
And yeah...I know you shouldn't date at the work place. I know, and I ignored it. Ah well.
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On January 12 2011 06:23 AyeH wrote:
Edit: I just read that she is almost 17 and you are 20. She is not going to me mature enough for you. Trust me on this.
You could very well be right. Yesterday she said told me she writes poetry and wanted me to read some...I got flashbacks to school and I was like 'Oh god it's going to be awful but I can't say that.'
EDIT: damn didn't mean to use my 1k post on this. -_-
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The only situation I've heard of something similar, the girl went back to the first boyfriend out of guilt + thinking the new guy was a jerk for pushing too hard. Sounds like you are well on your way to creating a similar situation.
Bottom line, you have to cool down and be patient if you really want this girl. Maybe apologize and say you realize you were out of line. The girl will get out of her relationship in time... who wants to stay with the person they liked when they were thirteen (the same is true of sixteen, IMO, but you can have some fun years). While she's getting out of it, your job is to pretend to be noble and thinking of her best interests.
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Believe me when I say this: This girl's trouble.
Find someone else.
That she is!
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Don't expect a girl that would get with you while she is still with someone else to be faithful to you. Not to mention, how would you feel if the guy actually turned out to be a cool guy?
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hey dude, I'm gonna say this in a very unbiased way, but there is red flags all over this thing. I know you won't listen if I say to walk away from her completely, but seriously, be cautious and keep your guard up. she's young, and just broke up with her long-term boyfriend. this ex-boyfriend shit isn't gonna go away in a snap.
I don't want to see you get taken by surprise, man. this is seriously dangerous waters. just remember that this could very easily turn bad for you.
I don't mean to shit on your relationship or anything, I just want you to take your time with her and not rush anything. don't lead with emotion right now. good luck man <3
I speak from experience in this sort of situation, btw. It worked out in the end for me, but I had to go through some shit to get there.
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Honestly, I would give the girl a chance, and more importantly, time. The girl got into a relationship when she was 13(!), and kids at that age dont necessarily make the best decisions. 16 isn't a whole lot better, but still her decision making would be quiet better than when she was 13.
The question is, what are you looking for right now? Are you looking for a relationship in the short term - if so, then this girl isn't for you. But if you're willing to wait it out, and take a risk, then this might even work out in favor of you, if the girl is level-headed and knows what she wants.
Good luck!.
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You've clearly already made up your mind about what you're going to do, so why bother asking for advice? The general consensus is that this girl is trouble (which she is), and that you're better off just cutting your losses and looking for somebody else. She's 16, which makes it a problem. You're 20, and she's 16 - that exacerbates the problem. Lastly, she's was cheating on her boyfriend with you, so either you think you're that much of a fucking stud that her actions only happened cause it was you and you're so baller, or because she doesn't mind cheating.
P.S I doubt you're a stud baller.
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2Pacalypse January 12 2011 06:20Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 05:07 JackMcCoy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I understand your feelings. I was once like you.
Ah, to be young and in love. I remember that summer in Paris, a swaggering fool and a head flush with vigor and passions. I sat in the shadow of the Sacré-Cœur as Charles Aznavour crooned out of a nearby radio, “Dans son nouveau décor/Montmartre semble triste/Et les lilas sont mort.” Perhaps for him, Montmatre was lost, but to me it was the only place in the world. It was there, sitting outside a small café on the Place du Tertre, when I saw her first. Her hair danced and pulled in the light wind as she surveyed the square, looking for a corner to set up her easel. For 45 minutes I watched her with intense curiosity, trying to pick out every detail and guess its significance. I fell in love with her pouted lips, her sinewy, graceful musculature and her defiant, firebrand eyes. So lost was I in fantasy that I near failed to notice her starting to leave. I started to sweat and panic as my mind and heart raced towards an impossible frenzy. This was my chance, my one and only opportunity to risk my ego, risk my shame and expose my very humanity to attain my desire.
I hurried across the square, arriving at her breathless and dizzy but empowered by the liberating release of caution and care. “Hi, I’m Jack,” I breathed between my desperate suppression of panting, focusing every square inch of mental acuity contained in my brain on keeping calm and steady. “Charlotte,” she replied, smiling with an enchanting shyness as she broke eye contact and blushed. “Charlotte. That’s beautiful. Would you like to go for dinner tonight, Charlotte? I know I’m not from around here, but I know some great places and…” She tilted her head slightly and looked away. “Sorry, I cannot. I’m sorry.” I struggled for something, anything to say to make her change her mind, but instead I simply nodded and shrugged the most cowardly shrug any man has ever pathetically offered. She turned slowly on her heel with a polite smile, and we were so close the tips of her hair flew up and brushed my face to taunt me. “I don’t even know you, but know I will miss you,” I said as she moved away. She took 5 steps before stopping. Her hand shot into her carrier bag and returned with a corner of iridescent paper torn from her sketch pad. She wrote elegantly with a small nub of charcoal and handed me the small leaf with the instructions, “Don’t smudge it,” before she turned and was whisked away into the faceless crowd. I looked down at the writing. “14 rue de cléry. 8 pm. if you are sure.”
I spun around on the spot, light-headed and ecstatic. I wanted to burst with excitement. I thought of reaching out, of grabbing the nearest passing Frenchman and telling him of my wild, magnificent victory. I left the square and headed back to my hotel to change my clothes and prepare myself.
The taxi pulled up outside 14 rue de cléry at 5 minutes to 8. Thankfully, the horrendous traffic and anxiety over being late kept my mind from being too occupied with my self-doubts, my nerves and my oppressive imagination. I stepped out of the cab, tipping the driver handsomely for his deft navigation, and turned towards the cobblestone path that led to the formidable, impressive residence. I rang the doorbell twice before hearing her voice from above. She was calling out the window, “Come in, please. I will be right down.” I entered warily, and found perched on the edge of an expensive-feeling ottoman. I heard delicate footsteps approach, and I turned to greet her when a diminutive, tanned fellow appeared from behind the doorway with a camera crew in tow.
“Why don’t you take a seat over there?” He gestured towards a stool that sat beside a marble countertop bar. I stood, confused, and looked around the room for Charlotte. “Right over there. Just take a seat right over there,” he said, with more conviction in his voice. Nervous and somewhat disoriented, I complied and sat in the stool. “So what are you doing here tonight?” he prodded. “I’m – I’m here to meet someone. She – I think I may be in the wrong house…” He grinned slightly and flicked a glance at the camera before he said it. “Were you coming here to sleep with a 15 year old girl today? Because we have these images…” He pulled some pictures from behind the counter that must have been us, together in the square earlier in the day. I couldn’t be sure as my eyes had lost their ability to focus and my head swirled. I stumbled back off the stool and lurched toward the door. I had little coordination and less idea where I was headed as they called out after me. I burst through the front door and through the waiting arms of the French policeman standing guard. The cobblestone path swept along underneath my feet like a river. I lost my balance and fell to the earth. That’s when the dogs came. I looked up at the gorgeous Paris night sky as the Rottweiler sunk his teeth into my ankle, and I felt the tendon snap. Fucking Montmarte. Is there a part 2? Don't leave me here with a tear in my eye, I need to know what happened afterwards!
OMG yes. i need to know how this ends. please finish this book.please.
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On January 12 2011 06:55 Salv wrote: You've clearly already made up your mind about what you're going to do, so why bother asking for advice? The general consensus is that this girl is trouble (which she is), and that you're better off just cutting your losses and looking for somebody else. She's 16, which makes it a problem. You're 20, and she's 16 - that exacerbates the problem. Lastly, she's was cheating on her boyfriend with you, so either you think you're that much of a fucking stud that her actions only happened cause it was you and you're so baller, or because she doesn't mind cheating.
P.S I doubt you're a stud baller.
Well I wasn't technically asking should I get out of it, I hadn't even considered it until people overwhelming started saying it. And I'm almost exactly 3 years older than her, she is a BIT young, but I was once told the rule is half your age plus seven? When she hits 17 soon I'll be adhereing to that, admittedly arbitrary, rule and I'll be content.
Also, I am SUCH a stud baller. You should see my ladder rating. (I actually briefly tried telling her how good I was at SC2 (not even very good) when I was drunk once - didn't work, moved on).
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