EPT[Spawn Larvae] Right Side Shift + Backspace Method - Page 6
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Mortis
United States217 Posts
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dambros
Brazil432 Posts
- All hatcheries on same hotkey - Each queen on a different hotkey - Select specific queen > V > click hatchery | ||
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Azerbaijan
United States660 Posts
On August 21 2010 02:07 dambros wrote: This sounds good, but why does all pros use that scheme where: - All hatcheries on same hotkey - Each queen on a different hotkey - Select specific queen > V > click hatchery Preference; do what feels best for you. I have tried that way and the right side shift way and have come to prefer the latter. | ||
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daywiss
United States83 Posts
ive moved more towards 1 hokey per queen, 6-0. its a bit slower but you have more control and can instantly jump to each hatchery, also there are no mistaken injections which is the biggest advantage. once u get to 4+ queens though it gets tough to manage, this is where the backspace technique could be much better. | ||
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Ryzu
United States369 Posts
On August 21 2010 03:53 daywiss wrote: i remember hearing about this trick during the beta. it seemed like a really good idea, with practice you could get really fast. but the problem is if a queen dies, or u dont build one per hatchery, then you end up in a very awkward situation if u mistakenly inject on a queenless hatch. because the technique eventually becomes habitual, its easy to make this mistake. then you end up with a queen walking across the map. ive moved more towards 1 hokey per queen, 6-0. its a bit slower but you have more control and can instantly jump to each hatchery, also there are no mistaken injections which is the biggest advantage. once u get to 4+ queens though it gets tough to manage, this is where the backspace technique could be much better. Since you're using backspace to center over a new hatch, all you really need to do to make sure a queen doesn't get moved out of position is to simply look at the new hatch > queen present = click, queen not present = backspace to next hatch. This only adds a second or two to the process, and keeps your queens happily at their own hatcheries. | ||
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
Seriously? This is a new discovery? I've played Zerg maybe twice in about 1000 games of SC2 and this select all queens and V-shift click the hatcheries was one of the first things I thought about and how it would make spawning larva very easy. How all the pros contine to put single queens or even single hatches on different hotkeys blows my mind. | ||
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GaussWaffle
United States211 Posts
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Zokkar
Israel128 Posts
I think this way is much faster than 55v66v77v but with "55v66v77v" you can micro queens a bit better and you don't get queens walking all the way across the map to inject. | ||
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Flaunt
New Zealand784 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
On December 27 2010 07:39 Zokkar wrote: The only downside to this method is that if you lose a queen then the next time you inject you will have another queen move all the way across the map to that specific hatchery that lost the queen to inject, most likely dying too. I think this way is much faster than 55v66v77v but with "55v66v77v" you can micro queens a bit better and you don't get queens walking all the way across the map to inject. Begone! necromancer | ||
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majestouch
United States395 Posts
On December 27 2010 07:41 Flaunt wrote: all these methods will be gone once the custom hotkeys come next patch so don't worry about it please explain. | ||
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Djeez
543 Posts
On December 27 2010 07:41 Flaunt wrote: all these methods will be gone once the custom hotkeys come next patch so don't worry about it Hardly. If anything, it will make this backspace technique the best one. I've already been practicing it a lot on the PTR, with Backspace bound to the X key. That way you don't need to move your hand to the middle of the keyboard to do it, and you can use the left shift button instead. Also tried by bounding the Backspace button to middle mouse button, but I found it sloppy. 5 hold left shift x click x click x click Insanely fast, and just like doing a trill on a guitar :D | ||
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Zergtastic
Australia81 Posts
If you hold down shift and backspace, it scrolls through the hatcheries SUPER quickly. So just hold those two buttons down and spam mouse button. Its not only more fool-proof but its a slight bit faster. It might give you an extra half a second off, of time to do other stuff. Of course, there is a greater chance of missing hatcheries doing it this way so spam mouse REALLY fast to ensure you hit every one. I feel like I've discovered another zerg macro miracle. :D Edit: I've been doing it on a 9 hatchery map, and I usually miss only one hatchery. If you have maybe 3 hatcheries, you'd have a smaller chance to miss one and even if you do, it would be fixed faster than with 9 hatches. Yet again, I gotta say, you have to be a very fast clicker for it to work this way. Maybe something for the 300+ APM people lol | ||
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Oleksandr
United States227 Posts
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Lysergic
United States355 Posts
HERE'S A VERY USEFUL TIP THAT IMPROVES THIS METHOD: Assign the side button(s) on your mouse to Backspace. If you have side buttons on your mouse, you should assign one of them to the backspace key. That way you don't have to position your hand to the right side of keyboard. It's also useful for more than just injecting, being able to switch from base to base using the side button with your mouse hand is helpful for all races. This will be easy to do when patch 1.2 is released. Currently, you'll have to do it using your mouse software. I know it can easily be done using Razer or Logitech (SetPoint). | ||
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MrBitter
United States2939 Posts
On December 27 2010 07:57 Djeez wrote: Hardly. If anything, it will make this backspace technique the best one. I've already been practicing it a lot on the PTR, with Backspace bound to the X key. That way you don't need to move your hand to the middle of the keyboard to do it, and you can use the left shift button instead. Also tried by bounding the Backspace button to middle mouse button, but I found it sloppy. 5 hold left shift x click x click x click Insanely fast, and just like doing a trill on a guitar :D o.O but how do you detonate your banelings? "W" much better, imho. | ||
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ejac
United States1195 Posts
There are some other benefits of having your queens hotkeyed separately as well I've found. | ||
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
On December 28 2010 13:03 lysergic wrote: I don't recommend holding backspace down, it's nice to see each queen start the injection, so you know you didn't miss any, or know a queen won't be running across the map if there isn't a queen by a hatchery. Also, I don't recommend using the Backspace key at all. HERE'S A VERY USEFUL TIP THAT IMPROVES THIS METHOD: Assign the side button(s) on your mouse to Backspace. If you have side buttons on your mouse, you should assign one of them to the backspace key. That way you don't have to position your hand to the right side of keyboard. It's also useful for more than just injecting, being able to switch from base to base using the side button with your mouse hand is helpful for all races. This will be easy to do when patch 1.2 is released. Currently, you'll have to do it using your mouse software. I know it can easily be done using Razer or Logitech (SetPoint). I will try this. I gave up on this technique in beta but i never thought of this. | ||
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WarSong
Canada126 Posts
On May 17 2010 06:48 Vexx wrote: Watched the video and while it does look fast, my hand is NEVER on the right side of the keyboard. Then again, I use a g15 keyboard so my g1-g6 keys are bound to 55v, 66v and so on to select my queen, center on her, spawn larva then click. people like this annoy me. "i cheat because i'm too unskilled to actually handle my race's mechanics." the thought that i sometimes have an unknown handicap while i play on the ladder is semi-depressing and quite lame. learn to play. | ||
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Cade
Canada1420 Posts
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