EPTTL Mafia XXXIV: Pokemafia - Page 47
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
DT Please Claim. Tomorrow is possible the last day for the town, and any information, even if everyone you checked die, is good Medics please protect me. After I'm gone, medics, if you trust your own abilities, possibly start self protecting. Initial Lynch setup. I'll get in depth later If D3 kills someone that isn't Brocket, and isn't red. We'll need to start cutting KP drastically. Someone else should do the calculations, but D3 could loose us the game. If D3 is roleblocked. Lynch Brocket [u]If Brocket is red[/] I'll make a big post about this soon If Brocket is green The town will really need to re-evaluate everything that's going on. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
On December 19 2010 01:43 LSB wrote: There goes my theory about tube... x.x The key issue is that the mafia was actively trying to redirect the lynch off of Shockeyy. There are three ways they could do this 1) Stay low and just vote for themselves (what Oceanic did) 2) Place their votes on D3 and hope to get him lynched (This is incredibly dumb) 3) Attempt to redirect the lynch to DCXLIV Now. How would we know if the lynch was attempted to be redirected to DCXLIV? The key point is how the DCXLIV pushers dealt with the Shockeyy issue. Mafia would just completely ignore Shockeyy to try to not tie themselves with them, or downplay the issue. (See how Pandain tried to downplay Coagulation and focus on Glasse in don't loose your village) Now lets apply this to see if it fits Brocket. Firstly, his main argument against lynching shockey Day 2 was that there "was not enough information". This is clearly false, I had done the full analysis. Comprehensive post analysis, and also previous game analysis. In addition, Brocket does not offer a reason why the shockeyy lynch was premature, he just assumed it. + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2010 06:06 Brocket wrote: I think shockeyy and amber haven't posted enough to earn a position to be voted. The shockeyy bandwagon does not amuse me and I am disappoint in LSB. In tree hugger fashion: Gabriel or zeks are good votes and are the only votes that should matter because those two have been discussed 'extensively'. If you want shockey out, wait till day 3 voting please, you're not helping the town cause. Way too soon and way too shallow of an argument. I am not satisfied with amber or d3's (lol) arguments. LSB, shockey is implying amber and d3 appear to be working together.Which I agree with. But I'm saving that for the next day assuming I don't die night 2. Btw please look more on amber+d3 if I die night 2. On December 15 2010 06:12 Brocket wrote: "As for Voting Gabriel. I found it very strange that Jcarlson and Meapak died. On the other hand, this could be a great way to make Gabriel seem even more suspicious." This kind of evens out you going on shockey bandwagon LSB. This is a great point and I say I didn't even think of it. But I'm assuming TR are too stupid to even think of something like this. Nonetheless this discredits the Gabe vote. I'm sticking to my guns though. As I just said gabe/zeks are both good votes. Voting shockeyy now in the final hours of day 2 voting is a huge mistake, we simply haven't discussed enough about him yet. It's just a mixture of spontaneous and bandwagon which are key ingredients for suspicious activity and failure. Now, the most important post I discovered is this @LSB Planned medic claim much? Brocket's key defense of Shockeyy was that he could be medic. No one says could be medic. People say possible blue. There was no way Brocket would know that Shockeyy would be claiming medic, unless he planned it with Shockeyy beforehand. All this analysis must be doing your head in bro. He claimed medic before I posted that. Just. Fucking. Check it. You didn't do a analysis on shockeyy when I said it was too early. Amber and d3 were on shockeyy and you just agreed, and then I posted that. Zero analysis on your part. Look it up. Look at the god damn time stamp on my god damn post you god damn mook. What the hell is the point of analysing when you are so shit at it? Damn man, none of anything you just said in this quote made sense if you just look at YOUR posts before MY posts. Anyway, I told you. I'm not a smurf. This is my first game on TL Mafia. If I sound like I'm charming and persuasive that's just sheer personality shining through. I don't have any hidden information. I don't know what the fuck you're seeing in my posts when clearly they're in response to posts I actually read. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
But those brings up two new points 1) Brocket believed Shockeyy 2) Brocket defended Shockeyy | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Tinfoil Hat Mode ![[image loading]](http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4475601/2/istockphoto_4475601-paranoid-again.jpg) All right, the only possible way the town could win right now is by practically naming every single mafia straight from the bat. So I'll try my hand at picking everything. + Show Spoiler + Major Assumption. DCXLIV is green Way to confirm without killing DCXLIV: If Brocket is red, this could be an easy way to confirm. Day 3 Mafia Plan -Redirect lynch onto DCXLIV. + Show Spoiler + This would be an attempt to save Shockeyy. -Put suspicion on people who voted for D3. + Show Spoiler + A way to try to control Day 4 double lynch This is the key post that dictates the plan On December 18 2010 04:28 Brocket wrote: BROCKET HAS ARRIVED. EVENTS that townies should give a shit about: D3 claims to be mewtwo. Town is COOL with this. WE LOVE m2. Why? Because if townies lose then m2 loses at this stage since zero mafia are dead. Also Mafia have zero ways of killing m2 except by vote. Look at this. LOOK AT IT. d3_crescentia DCLXVI Kavdragon Eiii BrownBear deconduo You must vote one of these guys. Any of them. Shockeyy could be the 6th but not sure. My suggestion is, hop onto the god damn DC wagon or else I'm going to suss you out next, got it? ##VOTE double lynch. ##Vote DCLXVI. You KNOW it makes sense. Make the mafia fail in killing m2, kill a mafia, get 2 lynches for next day. Why the hell would you NOT do it and spread our votes between shockeyy, gabe, LSB. What the fuck? Get with the program pikachus. HRRRRRRNNNGGGGHHH. Greens under this idea Grouped under the D3 lynched Eiii- Insanious pushed him DCXLIV- Obv Brownbear- DTH breadcrumbed him. Grouped under the "D3 lynch" Kavdragon- Not that much, he's pretty scummy... but still listed deconduo- Voted for Shockeyy Voted for shockeyy seRapH- Possibly green LSB Gabriel deconduo- Possibly green KtheZ- Possibly green, see below GGQ- Possibly green Infundibulum- Possibly green Reds under this idea Brocket- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174831¤tpage=43#847 Node- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174831¤tpage=46#915 + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
I just said it'll be unfortunate if shockey turned up medic after he claimed medic. I didn't ever say I believed him. Seriously quote me. Please. And when did I defend Shockey? , I told you guys to go ahead to vote Shockey, it's even in the damn post you quoted me saying. I personally chose DC because like gabe he has gone under the radar due to shit storms. I still think DC is scummy. Am I not allowed to think that when I have said multiple times that DC eliminated people accusing him and I thought he was a scummy target for eliminating his targets and trying to get rid of m2. Am I not right in saying if d3 is mewtwo then we can use him as townie? He gave up the game when he admitted it. He can't win until more mafia are dead. Does it not make sense then for mafia to use our day to lynch d3? D3 can't be killed unless it's a lynch. Why is it suspect if I want d3 to live a little longer? Again, tell me if I defended shockey or if I believed him. You won't find a quote because I sure as hell didn't say it. Either you've gone overboard with analyses or you're just scum trying to knock out a townie that you see as a threat LSB. I called you out on the shockey bandwagon. I told everybody that it was a random jump LSB. You didn't have analyses that time, there was not any evidence apart from amberlight vs shockey. As far as I'm concerned I don't believe a word you say. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
day 2: zeks+ gabe were on the chopping block. Amber+ d3+ lsb decide to vote shockey. Amber points out some things, sure. d3 just obligingly agrees and lsb quickly hops on with no in depth 'analysis'. We said that it wasn't good for the town when zeks + gabe were good enough votes and that we'd discuss shockey on the following day which you guys refused to do. We get the discussion necessary for shockey and we reach a suitable conclusion day 3. I stuck by my guns and I still stand by my vote on DC and hold residual suspicion on gabe. I also stand by my decision to keep d3. That's all I've done up to this point since day 2 and day 3. Tell me now if I've done anything wrong. | ||
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
I am generally against people calling for medics. However, in this case, if the town has no active players, we will not win. Medics, make your choices wisely. LSB: You expect Mafia to RB you? Why? If there is a chance that you will die, we need to know what information you have. If it means posting it right before the end of the night, then so be it, but please, don't die with information that can benefit the town. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
Major Assumption. DCXLIV is green Way to confirm without killing DCXLIV: If Brocket is red, this could be an easy way to confirm. Wow. Let's go ahead and sweeten the deal. If I get lynched. And I'm red. That must make you green too? And also gabe as well? Guaranteed right? Because I'm a nasty mafia gunning for you guys. Can someone not me or lsb tell me which one of us is making sense? This is madness. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 19 2010 03:00 Kavdragon wrote: LSB: You expect Mafia to RB you? Why? If there is a chance that you will die, we need to know what information you have. If it means posting it right before the end of the night, then so be it, but please, don't die with information that can benefit the town. Don't worry about that. I'll make sure any information I have gets through before 10:00 KST. On December 19 2010 02:48 Brocket wrote: When did I defend shockey or believe him? I just said it'll be unfortunate if shockey turned up medic after he claimed medic. I didn't ever say I believed him. Seriously quote me. Please. And when did I defend Shockey? , I told you guys to go ahead to vote Shockey, it's even in the damn post you quoted me saying. I personally chose DC because like gabe he has gone under the radar due to shit storms. I still think DC is scummy. Am I not allowed to think that when I have said multiple times that DC eliminated people accusing him and I thought he was a scummy target for eliminating his targets and trying to get rid of m2. Am I not right in saying if d3 is mewtwo then we can use him as townie? He gave up the game when he admitted it. He can't win until more mafia are dead. You defended shockeyy in two ways. Firstly, by trying to delay the day 2 shockey bandwagon right as it started. Secondly you attempted to redirect the lynch to DCLXVI. This is most evident when you did not have an opinion on the Shockeyy lynch at all and kept on insisting (and still do) that we should lynch DCLXVI. DCLXVI became too conviniant for people to jump on without thinking, or explaining themselves. This is the reason why I suspect you. You nearly let shockeyy go free by almost getting DCLXVI lynched. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 19 2010 02:58 Brocket wrote: Let me refit the context as well while I'm at it. day 2: zeks+ gabe were on the chopping block. Amber+ d3+ lsb decide to vote shockey. Amber points out some things, sure. d3 just obligingly agrees and lsb quickly hops on with no in depth 'analysis'. We said that it wasn't good for the town when zeks + gabe were good enough votes and that we'd discuss shockey on the following day which you guys refused to do. We get the discussion necessary for shockey and we reach a suitable conclusion day 3. I stuck by my guns and I still stand by my vote on DC and hold residual suspicion on gabe. I also stand by my decision to keep d3. That's all I've done up to this point since day 2 and day 3. Tell me now if I've done anything wrong. The thing you did wrong is that you killed Amber, you tried to kill D3 and you'll probably kill me tonight. Oh and DC/Gave/Zeks are all town. And you pushed their lynch. | ||
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Insanious
Canada1251 Posts
On December 19 2010 03:03 Brocket wrote: I want to echo what LSB said very recently: Major Assumption. DCXLIV is green Way to confirm without killing DCXLIV: If Brocket is red, this could be an easy way to confirm. Wow. Let's go ahead and sweeten the deal. If I get lynched. And I'm red. That must make you green too? And also gabe as well? Guaranteed right? Because I'm a nasty mafia gunning for you guys. Can someone not me or lsb tell me which one of us is making sense? This is madness. LSB and Gabe are green as they were the ones running Shockeyy up the flag pole. They were the ones trying to lynch Shockeyy, if they were red why would they purposely put Shockeyy into the light when no one suspected him before hand... LSB and Gabe are basically confirmed greens... so any defense made with "So if I'm red it makes you guys greens" doesn't work since they are already green... even if they mistakenly kill a town then it just means the people leading the town made a mistake. I would be HIGHLY surprised if either of those two were red. LSB + Gabe = people that got Shockeyy lynched. Shockeyy = red, therefore people that got the red lynched = green, thefore LSB + Gabe = Green. | ||
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Gabriel
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On December 19 2010 03:03 Brocket wrote: I want to echo what LSB said very recently: Major Assumption. DCXLIV is green Way to confirm without killing DCXLIV: If Brocket is red, this could be an easy way to confirm. Wow. Let's go ahead and sweeten the deal. If I get lynched. And I'm red. That must make you green too? And also gabe as well? Guaranteed right? Because I'm a nasty mafia gunning for you guys. Can someone not me or lsb tell me which one of us is making sense? This is madness. You are getting so lynched tomorrow. | ||
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Gabriel
149 Posts
you are getting SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lynched tomorrow. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
I think it's time for a mass roleclaim once the day post is up. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 19 2010 05:24 d3_crescentia wrote: I don't have any suspects and am going to rest a bit more from driving all day today/yesterday. I'm going to kill brocket tonight, as I think that's the only course of action where it's possible for me to win. Well, not the only one, but it reveals the most info. I think it's time for a mass roleclaim once the day post is up. Well, medics shouldn't claim, but I don't have a problem with Hatters / DTs claiming. | ||
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Gabriel
149 Posts
On December 19 2010 05:29 LSB wrote: Well, medics shouldn't claim, but I don't have a problem with Hatters / DTs claiming. I think mafia will hit shockeyys lynch list heavily tonight. Sad that we lost a medic for free... i am making up my final suspect list as mafia is unlikely to let me live. Deconduo is less of a suspect now because his vote change. My red chips are on Brocket, Node, Kavdragon. Shame on dimnsab, brownbear and oceanic because it is very likely that at least one of them is mafia. | ||
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Gabriel
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