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Gabriel
Profile Joined December 2008
149 Posts
December 18 2010 04:05 GMT
#901
F U C K Y E A H ! NOW I CAN POST MORE CRAZY STUFF.
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not really, just inmensely happy that we got shockeyy and that "somehow" that clears myself.
Formerly known as Malongo http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Malongo
Gabriel
Profile Joined December 2008
149 Posts
December 18 2010 04:39 GMT
#902
Can we please get an updated second post DH?? please?? and where are the modks?
Formerly known as Malongo http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Malongo
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
December 18 2010 04:56 GMT
#903
Sorry all, RL events have conspired against me, and I've not been able to get to the forum except for a very short break that allowed me to throw out a quick vote for D3. I've read up so far, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around the current events. I hope to post some sort of analysis/my thoughts on what's happened. Well done on the lynch.

DrH, could you please update the following and replace the Role list? (There are a few counts will need to be updated after the identity of the mod kills has been revealed.)

+ Show Spoiler +

Signup List:
1. deconduo
2. BrownBear
3. Eiii
4. GGQ
5. LSB
6. DarthThienAn (Alakazam, Night 2 Kill)
7. RebirthOfLeGenD (Pikachu, Night 1 Kill)
8. Amber[LighT] (Mew, Night 2 Kill)
9. dinmsab
10. jcarlsoniv (Pikachu, Night 1 Kill)
11. DCLXVI
12. Ghrur (???, Night 3 Modkill)
13. Kenpachi (Pikachu, Day 1 Lynch)
14. Node
15. KtheZ
16. tube (???, Night 3 Modkill)
17. chaoser
18. Oceanic
19. Gabriel
20. Insanious
21. Meapak_Ziphh (Pikachu, Night 1 Kill)
22. Shockeyy (Koffing, Day 3 lynch)
23. seRapH
24. Kavdragon
25. tree.hugger (Electrode, Night 1 Kill
26. Infundibulum
27. Pandain (Cloyster, Night 2 Kill)
28. Brocket
29. kitaman27
30. d3_crescentia
31. zeks (Pikachu, Day 1 lynch)

Replacement Queue:
RebirthOfLeGenD
BrownBear
Barundar


21 of 31 players remaining

x of x Pikachus remaining
x of x Raichus remaining

x of x Chanseys remaining
(x-1) of x Alakazams remaining
(x-1) of x Cloysters remaining
(x-1) of x Electrodes remaining
0 of 1 Mews remaining


16 of 24 Pokealliance players remaining.

x of x Gengars remaining
(x-1) of x Koffing remaining
x of x Weezing remaining


Team Rocket KP = 3 (TR/2 rounded up)


5 of 6 Team Rocket players remaining.

1 of 1 Mewtwo remaining.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
December 18 2010 04:57 GMT
#904
On December 18 2010 13:39 Gabriel wrote:
Can we please get an updated second post DH?? please?? and where are the modks?



Lol. Guess I should learn to post faster.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
December 18 2010 05:02 GMT
#905
Wow, there was certainly quite a bit of action while I was away. Directed at me I see Brocket starting a bandwagon with kitaman/node/chaoser buying into it with reasons given. Then again, Brocket's reasoning was "he is suss", so I guess they can just throw their votes on too. LSB then tries to get a plan together to lynch me based on that terrible fake role claim by shockeyy (yeah it is easier for me to see now but what were you guys thinking? Last minute "don't lynch me Im a doc" is so overused.) LSB posted that the brocketwagon could've been a mafia ploy to pull people off shockeyy, and kitaman/node/chaoser have been pretty inactive and no opinions for a while. My guess is that if LSB is right about that, then brocket is red along with 1-2 of the K/N/C crew. Hopefully node will flip red and this will prove likely, but we need to wait for Doc to update.
LSB's plan seems hasty and bloodthirsty, and I for one am not a fan of it. Still, he is probably going to die tonight so I won't bother to much about it since it didn't attract much attention.
So if I were to predict the people to die tonight, I would guess LSB, Brocket, Insanious, and someone else who has suspected me, since that is all that ever happens at night. Seriously, everyone points fingers at me then dies at night >_>. When the dust settles we will probably have about 3 active townies +d3 to line up the lynch targets for tomorrow (if they are still alive): Me, deconduo, brocket, d3???, 10 lurkers...

@ Gabriel - I'm not so sure of LSB calling you mostly cleared, since your posting habits have changed so much over the game. You went from being aggressive and having options to ...lurker? I can't recall you having an opinion on anything since you were a lynch target. What happened?


I can already see the ending
Gabriel
Profile Joined December 2008
149 Posts
December 18 2010 05:25 GMT
#906
On December 18 2010 14:02 DCLXVI wrote:
Wow, there was certainly quite a bit of action while I was away. Directed at me I see Brocket starting a bandwagon with kitaman/node/chaoser buying into it with reasons given. Then again, Brocket's reasoning was "he is suss", so I guess they can just throw their votes on too. LSB then tries to get a plan together to lynch me based on that terrible fake role claim by shockeyy (yeah it is easier for me to see now but what were you guys thinking? Last minute "don't lynch me Im a doc" is so overused.) LSB posted that the brocketwagon could've been a mafia ploy to pull people off shockeyy, and kitaman/node/chaoser have been pretty inactive and no opinions for a while. My guess is that if LSB is right about that, then brocket is red along with 1-2 of the K/N/C crew. Hopefully node will flip red and this will prove likely, but we need to wait for Doc to update.
LSB's plan seems hasty and bloodthirsty, and I for one am not a fan of it. Still, he is probably going to die tonight so I won't bother to much about it since it didn't attract much attention.
So if I were to predict the people to die tonight, I would guess LSB, Brocket, Insanious, and someone else who has suspected me, since that is all that ever happens at night. Seriously, everyone points fingers at me then dies at night >_>. When the dust settles we will probably have about 3 active townies +d3 to line up the lynch targets for tomorrow (if they are still alive): Me, deconduo, brocket, d3???, 10 lurkers...

@ Gabriel - I'm not so sure of LSB calling you mostly cleared, since your posting habits have changed so much over the game. You went from being aggressive and having options to ...lurker? I can't recall you having an opinion on anything since you were a lynch target. What happened?




I just said that im somehow less mafia like in terms of voting activity. I have less time to play and my first days activity was expected to decrease anyways. Im interested in Brocket calling to lynch you. He insisted:

On December 18 2010 04:28 Brocket wrote:
BROCKET HAS ARRIVED.

EVENTS that townies should give a shit about:

D3 claims to be mewtwo. Town is COOL with this. WE LOVE m2. Why? Because if townies lose then m2 loses at this stage since zero mafia are dead. Also Mafia have zero ways of killing m2 except by vote. Look at this. LOOK AT IT.



d3_crescentia
DCLXVI
Kavdragon
Eiii
BrownBear
deconduo


You must vote one of these guys. Any of them. Shockeyy could be the 6th but not sure.


My suggestion is, hop onto the god damn DC wagon or else I'm going to suss you out next, got it?
##VOTE double lynch. ##Vote DCLXVI. You KNOW it makes sense.
Make the mafia fail in killing m2, kill a mafia, get 2 lynches for next day. Why the hell would you NOT do it and spread our votes between shockeyy, gabe, LSB. What the fuck?

Get with the program pikachus. HRRRRRRNNNGGGGHHH.


Now that you are asking me about my activity i think it is time to start the guns against this guy. It actually doesnt make any sense at all, we knew D3 was m2 with like 99% likeness, and that shockeyy was being pushed on the block from the town side. (amberlight-lsb).

He starts asking to vote one of DCs voters to "protect D3". Then he asks to vote DC. He is actually asking you NOT to vote shockeyy. I know mafia can roleblock d3 tonight (and that he is more than likely to be blocked). However: can you just try to flip him d3? just try?
Formerly known as Malongo http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Malongo
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 18 2010 05:29 GMT
#907
I'm pretty sure mafia will roleblock me .
Who knows what goes on in my mind?


Please, medics, protect me
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Gabriel
Profile Joined December 2008
149 Posts
December 18 2010 05:44 GMT
#908
@Brocket:
Since you dont make any sense at all im going to ask you a very easy question: How do you feel about lynching dimnsab tomorrow? He has been an actual lurker all game long and seems to be interested into let the game just go as long as he is alive. Do you think he is mafia?
Formerly known as Malongo http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Malongo
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
December 18 2010 06:37 GMT
#909
Starting this post to help town while I sleep (was out all day too sorry, will come back and post more tomorrow I promise... well untill tomorrow night when I have to leave, but for like 10 hours during the day... ya I'm busy now.) Anyway, will come back and post more later, but just want to start with this...

I want to FoS Brocket... for a single reason, since page 30 (when d3 FoS'd Shockeyy), Brocket was been trying to diffuse the vote and move votes onto Gabriel. Brocket did not out right try to defend Shockeyy at all at the end, but simply responded to every attack on Shockeyy with another post saying "I don't think Shockeyy is mafia, but Gabriel...."

As well, Brocket FoS'd seraph and LSB once during his last 11 posts (which are how many times he tried to move the votes from Shockeyy onto Gabriel).

- - - -

Now post analysis of Shockeyy's posts have show a few things:

- LSB = Town (obviously)

- Gabriel = Town (less obviously, but Shockeyy was one of the first to bandwagon gabriel, constantly tried to kill gabriel, and gabriel was one of the first to vote for Shockeyy)

- Seraph = Town (Seraph was the 3rd person to publicly post they were voting for Shockeyy, who is mafia. IF Seraph was mafia he would of switched his vote off of Shockeyy at the end to try and save his mafia buddy.)

Please note, that Brocket FoS'd these three players multiple times, the ones that started the FoS on Shockeyy.

- - - -

To not forget about d3, Brocket also FoS'd D3 a lot until D3 revealed he was mewtwo, at which point Brocket dropped his FoS on D3.

- - - -

Other FoS DCLXVI, if Brocket turns up red, then DCLXVI = town.

- - - - -

This is just a bit of analysis I did post death, if anyone wants to know how I got to these conclusions I will post what posts these reactions come from.
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
December 18 2010 07:33 GMT
#910
MUAHAHA ShoCkeyy was such an easy lynch. And did anybody actually believe that medic shit?

My FoS list:
DCLXVI
Brocket
Eiii

D3 go nuts. Electrodes go nuts.
boomer hands
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
December 18 2010 07:35 GMT
#911
People voted for D3:
DCLXVI
Kavdragon
Eiii
BrownBear
ShoCkeyy

So FoS on Kavdragon and BB too
boomer hands
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 18 2010 08:12 GMT
#912
Ghrur the Chansey was modkilled
Tube the Pikachu was modkilled
Chaoser the Pikachu was modkilled
RIP Aaliyah
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 18 2010 08:14 GMT
#913
TT
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 18 2010 08:17 GMT
#914
Sorry for late updates, I work really late this weekend. I have normal hours next week so I should be fine with the updates :3
RIP Aaliyah
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
December 18 2010 09:19 GMT
#915
Sorry for the lack of posts lately, between finals, flying across the country, and being at home where much of the time the only internet is the EDGE network from my phone, I've been having a hard time keeping up with mafia. Here are my thoughts at the moment.

I really think that the best place to look for mafia at the moment is the people that voted for d3. Eiii, BrownBear, Shockeyy, and DCL all left their votes on him, and I consider all of them to be scum or quite scummy. People should notice BrownBear in particular more, as it seems like he's flipped scum in all of these games where he has been very inactive and only occasionally chimes in with not much in particular.
whole lies with a half smile
Brocket
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia192 Posts
December 18 2010 13:45 GMT
#916
Somehow my points are invalidated since shockey was killed?

I said DC was mafia for 2 reasons. He had 2 previous accusers killed off and he started the d3 bandwagon. Yet somehow it's my fault for his actions? What? Is it getting through that accusers of DC in previous nights have been killed? 2 of them?

Gabe you were always suss. Now you're saying I don't make any sense? Please tell me how I did not make sense when I said d3 was m2 and we wanted to keep him? I voted dc and encouraged people to do so for the reason I just gave at the top of this post. Y'know, the same reason you're suss? Kenpachi, jcarl, dodged votes 2 days in a row. Ring a bell gabe?

Tell me again, do I not make sense? I've always used logic in every single god damn post I made. I already said I wasn't that sold on shockey as opposed to DC but I encouraged DC and shockey votes. I didn't entirely buy into the medic call either, I stuck with Dc. You can check my post in page 44

"@ LSB:

I'm not sure about shockeyy but DC and gabe have been suss. Don't you think there's sufficient evidence against DC too?

It makes no sense voting d3 if we know he took the hit. If he's not a vet he's mewtwo. In either case the mafia want to save up a night kill by lynching him. Does it not make sense then to avoid that by lynching? We can use a mewtwo.

Kind of sad if shockey turns out to be a medic but if you are still compelled go ahead and vote him. I'd rather see shockeyy go than d3 at this point. My vote is still on DC."

DC if you think I'm random accusing for no reason you then you've just ignored every goddamn post I've typed since you did your 'analysis'. People agreed with my logical reasoning, deal with it.

And gabe. fucking lol. Tell you what, I'll give you another post to criticise me, properly this time, before I start again with you. Try put some thought into it. I'm 22 by the way in case you needed that info again.


I don't know what happened.
Brocket
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia192 Posts
December 18 2010 13:47 GMT
#917
On December 18 2010 14:44 Gabriel wrote:
@Brocket:
Since you dont make any sense at all im going to ask you a very easy question: How do you feel about lynching dimnsab tomorrow? He has been an actual lurker all game long and seems to be interested into let the game just go as long as he is alive. Do you think he is mafia?



Brocket will think on this. And immediately get back to you by saying meh. He's not a bad vote. I'm pretty bad on inactives since for me it comes down to pot luck. Go for it, but I still don't think din is as scummy like as you or DC.
I don't know what happened.
Brocket
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia192 Posts
December 18 2010 13:54 GMT
#918
On December 18 2010 15:37 Insanious wrote:
Starting this post to help town while I sleep (was out all day too sorry, will come back and post more tomorrow I promise... well untill tomorrow night when I have to leave, but for like 10 hours during the day... ya I'm busy now.) Anyway, will come back and post more later, but just want to start with this...

I want to FoS Brocket... for a single reason, since page 30 (when d3 FoS'd Shockeyy), Brocket was been trying to diffuse the vote and move votes onto Gabriel. Brocket did not out right try to defend Shockeyy at all at the end, but simply responded to every attack on Shockeyy with another post saying "I don't think Shockeyy is mafia, but Gabriel...."

As well, Brocket FoS'd seraph and LSB once during his last 11 posts (which are how many times he tried to move the votes from Shockeyy onto Gabriel).

- - - -

Now post analysis of Shockeyy's posts have show a few things:

- LSB = Town (obviously)

- Gabriel = Town (less obviously, but Shockeyy was one of the first to bandwagon gabriel, constantly tried to kill gabriel, and gabriel was one of the first to vote for Shockeyy)

- Seraph = Town (Seraph was the 3rd person to publicly post they were voting for Shockeyy, who is mafia. IF Seraph was mafia he would of switched his vote off of Shockeyy at the end to try and save his mafia buddy.)

Please note, that Brocket FoS'd these three players multiple times, the ones that started the FoS on Shockeyy.

- - - -

To not forget about d3, Brocket also FoS'd D3 a lot until D3 revealed he was mewtwo, at which point Brocket dropped his FoS on D3.

- - - -

Other FoS DCLXVI, if Brocket turns up red, then DCLXVI = town.

- - - - -

This is just a bit of analysis I did post death, if anyone wants to know how I got to these conclusions I will post what posts these reactions come from.


Because if you get killed then it was obviously me. /rollseyes. Sure you can go ahead and vote me if it makes you feel better. Apparently I've been making zero sense whatsoever. Apparently it's logical to conclude if I'm read then DC is town. 100% guaranteed right? Shockey turning up red doesn't invalidate ANY of my points. I just didn't prioritise him as highly. By that logic if I turn up green that makes Gabe and DCI red? Then fucking do it bro, lynch me. Sounds like a good trade if you believe it's true.

Even better, I will agree with the gabetard and ask d3/the real mewtwo to please stand up and flip me. Be a man and do it.


I don't know what happened.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 18 2010 16:43 GMT
#919
On December 18 2010 17:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Ghrur the Chansey was modkilled
Tube the Pikachu was modkilled
Chaoser the Pikachu was modkilled

There goes my theory about tube... x.x


On December 18 2010 22:45 Brocket wrote:
I said DC was mafia for 2 reasons. He had 2 previous accusers killed off and he started the d3 bandwagon. Yet somehow it's my fault for his actions? What? Is it getting through that accusers of DC in previous nights have been killed? 2 of them?

The key issue is that the mafia was actively trying to redirect the lynch off of Shockeyy.
There are three ways they could do this
1) Stay low and just vote for themselves (what Oceanic did)
2) Place their votes on D3 and hope to get him lynched (This is incredibly dumb)
3) Attempt to redirect the lynch to DCXLIV

Now. How would we know if the lynch was attempted to be redirected to DCXLIV?
The key point is how the DCXLIV pushers dealt with the Shockeyy issue. Mafia would just completely ignore Shockeyy to try to not tie themselves with them, or downplay the issue. (See how Pandain tried to downplay Coagulation and focus on Glasse in don't loose your village)

Now lets apply this to see if it fits Brocket.

Firstly, his main argument against lynching shockey Day 2 was that there "was not enough information".

This is clearly false, I had done the full analysis. Comprehensive post analysis, and also previous game analysis. In addition, Brocket does not offer a reason why the shockeyy lynch was premature, he just assumed it.
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 15 2010 06:06 Brocket wrote:
I think shockeyy and amber haven't posted enough to earn a position to be voted. The shockeyy bandwagon does not amuse me and I am disappoint in LSB. In tree hugger fashion: Gabriel or zeks are good votes and are the only votes that should matter because those two have been discussed 'extensively'.

If you want shockey out, wait till day 3 voting please, you're not helping the town cause. Way too soon and way too shallow of an argument. I am not satisfied with amber or d3's (lol) arguments.

LSB, shockey is implying amber and d3 appear to be working together.Which I agree with. But I'm saving that for the next day assuming I don't die night 2. Btw please look more on amber+d3 if I die night 2.


On December 15 2010 06:12 Brocket wrote:
"As for Voting Gabriel. I found it very strange that Jcarlson and Meapak died. On the other hand, this could be a great way to make Gabriel seem even more suspicious."

This kind of evens out you going on shockey bandwagon LSB. This is a great point and I say I didn't even think of it. But I'm assuming TR are too stupid to even think of something like this. Nonetheless this discredits the Gabe vote. I'm sticking to my guns though. As I just said gabe/zeks are both good votes.

Voting shockeyy now in the final hours of day 2 voting is a huge mistake, we simply haven't discussed enough about him yet. It's just a mixture of spontaneous and bandwagon which are key ingredients for suspicious activity and failure.




Now, the most important post I discovered is this
On December 18 2010 09:44 Brocket wrote:
@ LSB:

I'm not sure about shockeyy but DC and gabe have been suss. Don't you think there's sufficient evidence against DC too?

It makes no sense voting d3 if we know he took the hit. If he's not a vet he's mewtwo. In either case the mafia want to save up a night kill by lynching him. Does it not make sense then to avoid that by lynching? We can use a mewtwo.

Kind of sad if shockey turns out to be a medic but if you are still compelled go ahead and vote him. I'd rather see shockeyy go than d3 at this point. My vote is still on DC.



Planned medic claim much?
Brocket's key defense of Shockeyy was that he could be medic.
No one says could be medic. People say possible blue. There was no way Brocket would know that Shockeyy would be claiming medic, unless he planned it with Shockeyy beforehand.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 18 2010 16:44 GMT
#920
On December 18 2010 18:19 Node wrote:
Sorry for the lack of posts lately, between finals, flying across the country, and being at home where much of the time the only internet is the EDGE network from my phone, I've been having a hard time keeping up with mafia. Here are my thoughts at the moment.

I really think that the best place to look for mafia at the moment is the people that voted for d3. Eiii, BrownBear, Shockeyy, and DCL all left their votes on him, and I consider all of them to be scum or quite scummy. People should notice BrownBear in particular more, as it seems like he's flipped scum in all of these games where he has been very inactive and only occasionally chimes in with not much in particular.

FOS Node
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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