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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
On December 15 2010 18:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I just wanna say I'm delighted at how not spammy this game has been. I'm not. Means that there isn't adequate discussion or finger-pointing to get anywhere. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
zeks Gabriel DCLXVI GGQ kitaman27 Insanious DarthThienAn Infundibulum chaoser Oceanic Eiii KtheZ Node ghrur Gabriel Brocket ShoCkeyy dinmsab deconduo Kavdragon Shockeyy d3_crescentia Amber[LighT] LSB Brownbear Brownbear SerapH SerapH Pandain? tube LSB Cross-examine with yesterday's vote list: Hesmyrr 1 d3_crescentia LSB 1 tube Gabriel 1 dinmsab Stormtemplar 1 ghrur 1 ghrur Zeks 11 Gabriel KtheZ Infundibulum Node DarthThienAn chaoser Hesmyrr? Kenpachi GGQ Oceanic kenpachi 12 deconduo Insanious Brocket LSB DCLXVI Kavdragon ShoCkeyy seRapH Amber[LighT] Eiii kitaman27 1 kitaman27 BrownBear 1 BrownBear Please note that RoL did not vote Day 1 and is now dead. Analysis inc PS I think my tags are screwy. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
 ay 3Voting Zeks was a silly bandwagon. Hence why I never even discussed it or spoke about it. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
Inactives/single votes There is absolutely no way we can continue voting in onesies because it makes analysis too hard. Of these on Day 1 we have: Brownbear, kitaman27, ghrur, dinmsab, and tube. Their actions on Day 2: Brownbear, tube (also note that in the above list tube should be voting for LSB, not the other way around), dinmsab with no change. Brownbear's inactivity is terrible and his presence isn't good for the town at all. As for the other two, dinmsab has voted for Gabriel twice and the same for tube -> LSB. If either of these two strongly believe in their votes then they should be in the thread actively promoting their viewpoint instead of sitting back passively; otherwise they might as well be scum. The meat: Zeks You might note that the Zeks list is virtually identical between Day 1 and 2, with the exception of Hesmyrr/Pandain and kitaman27/Insanious/Eiii jumping ship from elsewhere. Insanious wasted a lot of time sticking his neck out in a tree-hugger analysis; Eiii is not necessarily scum given his last-minute vote on zeks Day 1; kitaman27 played fairly aggressive pro-town in the beginning but has fallen silent since. For now, we shouldn't care too much about these people. The rest of the list (and a brief summary of posts): DCLXVI - not much contribution here as far as targets; just a bunch of fluff GGQ - makes a few points wrt Zeks (I found them uncompelling, but maybe that's hindsight) chaoser - some early game discussion and defense of Kenpachi; has cited finals Oceanic - early defense of infundibulum/anti-Gabriel; has cited finals KtheZ - early agreement/defense of Gabriel and then vanished Node - points out LSB, agrees with Gabriel wrt Zeks, believes Hesmyrr's (now Pandain's) roleclaim ghrur - agreement with Node on LSB I'm going to take the other three (Gabriel, DarthThienAn, Infundibulum) separately and get back to it tonight. Stay tuned for one more post... | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
Here's what I noticed about the Zeks list in particular: - Much of the voting comes from Gabriel's early game analysis of Zeks. While Gabriel himself could be whatever, at least one of his supporters IS scum. Let's work on analyzing Gabriel and his early-game followers. - The discussion between DCLXVI and chaoser wrt to Kenpachi is particularly telling. Chaoser's defense is along the lines of "Kenpachi just posts that way" while DCLXVI's responses are "yeah but if he WERE mafia it'd be so easy for him to hide!" Something about this just doesn't strike me as particularly innocent on DCLXVI's part, as he seems to be posting an unnecessary defense of himself when Kenpachi died, and a lot of "we should do/have done X" statements recently. His vote for zeks isn't particularly well-justified; in fact it's a bit of a 180-degree turn as he suddenly shifted from "Kenpachi is scum" to "scum must have bandwagoned Kenpachi in the end to save zeks!" (Post on this sometime tonight as well) Okay, off to work. Hope that's enough for you guys to chew on for tomorrow. Someone else come up with a night plan? In general, Gabriel might be good to check; DTA/Inf as well; DCLXVI cuz I think so. Medics protect who you can/find most compelling. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
On December 15 2010 22:38 flamewheel wrote: lol post quiet you | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On December 15 2010 22:12 Amber[LighT] wrote: Okay guys thanks for listening to me. Shockeyy should be eliminated come Day 2. Medics should NOT protect themselves if they can. They should be blue-hunting. If you suspect someone is a pika/raichu then ignore them and move on. Yes vote for me... you still haven't even given a good excuse to the town as to why to vote for me. . At least i actually gave input as to what i think about and proved you, lsb, and d3 are scum.... | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On December 15 2010 23:01 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yes vote for me... you still haven't even given a good excuse to the town as to why to vote for me. . At least i actually gave input as to what i think about and proved you, lsb, and d3 are scum.... You've been tripping all over your own posts, leaving things out, neglecting other posts, taking things out of context. Without a doubt this is scum-play, and bad scum-play at that. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
People springing to mind: LSB (really quick change vote from gabe to shockey and muddied the anti gabe arguments, didn't offer much on zeks even though zeks earned compelling arguments). Oceania &Seraph (said to death, lack of posts and jumping on teh wagon. I don't think much about posters like these but even I noticed a lack of posts from Oceania and Seraph. It's way too easy to sit back and vote, you got to get in the game if you want to stay). Amber (really quick on voting Shockeyy, way too quick especially when we were already divided about zeks and gabriel. d3 has distanced himself from you and i think lsb will plan to as well.) But I'm going to let other people talk now. I feel like my posts have made some people shy away from posting their ideas/opinions which isn't good. Please post something you think has happened or looks strange. As far as me voting myself: I will vote myself if suspicion falls on me and you guys want to confirm I'm a townie. I already said that I believed zeks/gabe were mafia and I'm already half wrong. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On December 15 2010 23:27 Brocket wrote: I am more interested in defenders of Gabriel and players FoSing Shockey than Gabriel and Shockeyy now. I'm not feeling as intense on Gabe as I felt over day 2 but I'm thinking that's cos he hasn't been talking much. Maybe if he posts more it'll reignite my burning passion to lynch him out. People springing to mind: LSB (really quick change vote from gabe to shockey and muddied the anti gabe arguments, didn't offer much on zeks even though zeks earned compelling arguments). Oceania &Seraph (said to death, lack of posts and jumping on teh wagon. I don't think much about posters like these but even I noticed a lack of posts from Oceania and Seraph. It's way too easy to sit back and vote, you got to get in the game if you want to stay). Amber (really quick on voting Shockeyy, way too quick especially when we were already divided about zeks and gabriel. d3 has distanced himself from you and i think lsb will plan to as well.) But I'm going to let other people talk now. I feel like my posts have made some people shy away from posting their ideas/opinions which isn't good. Please post something you think has happened or looks strange. As far as me voting myself: I will vote myself if suspicion falls on me and you guys want to confirm I'm a townie. I already said that I believed zeks/gabe were mafia and I'm already half wrong. D3, LSB, and I have no real connection. I didn't even know that D3 voted for ShoCkeyy, I was just ready to get a good lynch target on the map. I was waiting for the right person to start FoSing, and Shockeyy fell right into it. It could have been anyone, but an inactive that makes posts without substance and posts of straight-out lies makes him an obvious target. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
I had two final exams yesterday never logged on.... Hope me dying gave you guys clues You guys know what to do | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
Others aren't so lucky... | ||
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seRapH
United States9706 Posts
As for me being inactive or whatever, yeah I get that. But the zeks bandwagon (however stupid it was) already existed when I voted myself. If I were scum why wouldn't I get on that? + Show Spoiler + But maybe that's what I want you to think! WIFOM | ||
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seRapH
United States9706 Posts
On December 16 2010 00:16 zeks wrote: Getting lynched is better in the fact that I get sent to Bills PC Others aren't so lucky... We're pokemon. We never die. We only faint. ...they did faint right? | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On December 15 2010 23:31 Amber[LighT] wrote: D3, LSB, and I have no real connection. I didn't even know that D3 voted for ShoCkeyy, I was just ready to get a good lynch target on the map. I was waiting for the right person to start FoSing, and Shockeyy fell right into it. It could have been anyone, but an inactive that makes posts without substance and posts of straight-out lies makes him an obvious target. That's the thing, i didn't fall into anything, unless you d3 and lsb planned to mention my name and try calling me out (which is why d3 never mentioned you). Then i only so happened to mention your name, not even paint you as scum and you were way to quick on protecting yourself and painting me as scum. That in it self says scum all over it. And you still haven't given a good reason as to why i am scum yet, you just keep saying im scum and to vote for me... | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On December 16 2010 00:20 seRapH wrote: We're pokemon. We never die. We only faint. ...they did faint right? Now that you mentioned it, why are we talking? Shouldn't we be like... PIKA PIKA??! | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On December 16 2010 02:06 dinmsab wrote: Now that you mentioned it, why are we talking? Shouldn't we be like... PIKA PIKA??! Floating down a river in Cerulean city, four bodies were discovered. jcarlsoniv the Pikachu. RebirthOfLeGenD the Pikachu tree.hugger the Electrode Meapakk_Ziphh the Pikachu Nope I'm pretty sure you're dead dead lol | ||
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