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On November 03 2010 13:14 kitaman27 wrote:
If the mafia indeed only has one plague doctor, then DrH could consider using his sticky ability to identify someone who has a strong chance of already having m-rus and then that person can attempt to use their role to infect other mafia suspects, as a sort of weapon.
Wow get out of my head kitaman 
SHHHH
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On November 03 2010 13:09 bumatlarge wrote:
It seems you are a bit confused as to the reasons why I would be scummy at all. And Dr. H is in my circle. So is one other that I wont disclose.
I was under the assumption that you could only invite one person per night and there has only been one set of resolved night actions so far, unless the invitation process takes place during the day?
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On November 03 2010 13:14 kitaman27 wrote:
If the mafia indeed only has one plague doctor, then DrH could consider using his sticky ability to identify someone who has a strong chance of already having m-rus and then that person can attempt to use their role to infect other mafia suspects, as a sort of weapon.
I do believe that mafia only has plague doctor because Divinek's role pm stated that he killed LSB and gets the vaccine. I don't think there is another mafia who is a doctor and is unhappy with the town.
Divinek the Mafia Plague Doctor is now dead.
You are the Mafia Plague Doctor! You killed LSB because you were unhappy with the town. You decided to aid the mafia in curing their members instead. You can cure any one person from Murrayitis at night.
But if DrH is immune to the disease, mafia would be more willing to roleblock him since they don't want their roleblocker get infected with someone who can carry the disease.
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umm, kitaman
there are 3/29 players with murrayitis
DrH will only find a murrayitis carrier tonight with some excellent luck
On November 03 2010 13:09 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 11:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Once this game is over I'm gonna find someone to teach me how to do analysis posts because I don't know how to quote everything I want to but I said I'd take a closer look at bumatlarge and I feel like I found some good stuff. Ive seen divine around that fucking lurker, feel free to bandwagon him. Divine voted for me as mayor  This is before and after the night post. I know divine outside of TL mafia. I don't think he remembered that he was playing.Here are some theories also. Rolebloker targetted Dr.H we assume, right? Dr.H is immune to M-rus. Mafia has a now dead PD. I think mafia is very conservative in their actions for fear of the virus. Which makes me think that town is likely to have a virus spreading role if they found some unprecedented infected.
I suggest a medic considers dr. h as a target, since he is immune and becoming a clearer townie day by day.
Maybe he hasn't been paying attention but Doc is definetly not a clearer townie Maybe you haven't been paying attention, so explain to me why DocH isn't a clearer townie day by day not confirmed. He is by no means confirmed.And would it be selfish or scummy to ask for that vaccine if it hasnt already been dished out? Role Fishing maybe? rofl for a plague doctor to use his power on me? Are you even playing this game or reading how things happen in this gameHe makes a list of players and their actions but it's not really anything new, it feels like he's scum trying to act like town. He posts a lot of small, rather irelevent posts that make him look active but are actually pretty substanceless. Investigate me all the way, but i suggest if we have a PD to make sure i dont start spreading AIDS everywhere.
My power lets me have a permanent mason relationship with someone the rest of the game. They dont know who else I add each day, and they cannot PM anyone but me. So if im red, i can distort everything to hell. But if I start spreading misinformation, I'd like to think that the people I choose would be smart enough to catch it. And even if M-rus works that it immediately contracts to the person who visits, and then contracts to the person who visits them, I cannot contract it, because I can do it at the start of each day, so people who protect and investigate me are under no danger unless I am plagued. If I am immune, I cannot contract it when I add people, so I feel like a worthy candidate of having a PD vaccinate me. Is this his power? Why haven't we heard more about it? It's been long enough for him to use it. Yes, I am the one not paying attention this game.He makes a couple apologies for being inactive
I think it's safe to say you are claiming plague doctor, and the person you protect gets notified that you did this? That could be convenient. I do find it possible that mafia could have there own plague doctor, but Im not here to speculate that. If you use your power on me, and I can add you, we can start a circle. To verify it, you would give me one bodyguard who I would relay all of the information I learn. A medic can protect me if they wish, without fearing M-rus. If there is another plague doctor besides Dr.H (if that is what you are) Id suggst picking fishball, who has stated he has means to a circle and a role. That way another medic can choose between myself and fishball to protect. Whats really important is that the medics are safe in this from the M-rus, and if fishball or I die from a lucky shot by mafia, then oh well, fishball or myself die.
Is this plausible Dr. H? If so, then you have my vote.
Here's his reason for voting for our dear mayor. I can't even believe how much misinformation you are spreading around. Do I really need to explain this stuff? I said if he was claiming plague doctor, we could check him to see, and it would be a much more valuable mayor then the 'sticky' version.I did not withdraw my candidacy, I merely stated that fishball's plan was similar to mine, and if alot of the town thought him the better candidate I would not have a problem, but after reading into it and stating my opinions, I still want to be mayor, because
1) I know Im town, and will work in every way possible to make everything clear to everyone on what is happening.
2) I can make bodyguards in my circle! 100% confirmed townies, so if im poisoned or lynched, I can pass on all my info to them. How you will verify them though, might be a tad confusing. I hope to figure that out, and Im open to ideas.
3) I WONT FUCK IT UP. (Fairly sure fishball wont either if he isnt red)
Again, Im fairly certain it should be between fishball and I, because we can make circles happen, and he has stated that he has the power to flesh out the weeds of his. I'd like for him to address connecting circles through me, that would be cool. I need to catch up now, I was working.
Also, if a person is contaminated with M-rus in the night, and they are visited that same night, do the visitors contract it?
This is very important, because if medics protect him, we need to know how the M-rus functions. Someone help me out, what does he mean by this post? He can make body guards? ROFL? I'm sorry, I think you need to read the thread again, or at least look who was running for mayor.I am not in Fishball's circle. I have an ability to form a town circle of my choosing. I already choose my first person.
I don't have any other role, but I can easily access any circle already made if they are pro town. I don't have anything to hide now, and I guarantee everything I do will have crystal clear reasons as to why. The only thing I will not tell you is who. I believe my method will work slower then fishball, but it will be more effective later on.
It's not all that dangerous if I am not mayor, but it can be really strong if I am mayor. I dont think anyone aside from fishball has hinted that they can do this. It should be between me and him. Here's where he first talks about his role, a role easily faked by scum (like fishballs but fishball was proved innocent and I think that makes it even more likely the bum is lying). SHIT I have to go but I'm gonna post this anyway... I'll be back. It seems you are a bit confused as to the reasons why I would be scummy at all. And Dr. H is in my circle. So is one other that I wont disclose. Everything you have said derives from your inconsistent understanding of what is happening. Someone else post a better analysis if you are really going to be suspicious of me, which I find on the other hand to be completely reasonable since I am the only candidate with one mafia to have voted for me and no confirmed townies. And if anyone wants to link Dr. H and I, go ahead.
On the contrary, I want you to explain to me why DrH is becoming a clearer townie day by day in spite of the fact that the last 50 pages or so have been a clusterfuck involving Pandain, Coagulation, and myself poking holes in DrH's story the whole way through, and that DrH has not confirmed his role and was a major advocate for lynching Aeres (who as you know was blue).
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Yes my analysis is extremely flawed so it'll be the last time I attempt it. However I feel like I have raised some good points, why is doc townier every day, why haven't you and doc discussed your new circle, at the very least we could give you medic protection if we could confirm it.
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On November 03 2010 13:21 infinitestory wrote:umm, kitaman there are 3/29 players with murrayitis DrH will only find a murrayitis carrier tonight with some excellent luck Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 13:09 bumatlarge wrote:On November 03 2010 11:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Once this game is over I'm gonna find someone to teach me how to do analysis posts because I don't know how to quote everything I want to but I said I'd take a closer look at bumatlarge and I feel like I found some good stuff. Ive seen divine around that fucking lurker, feel free to bandwagon him. Divine voted for me as mayor This is before and after the night post. I know divine outside of TL mafia. I don't think he remembered that he was playing.Here are some theories also. Rolebloker targetted Dr.H we assume, right? Dr.H is immune to M-rus. Mafia has a now dead PD. I think mafia is very conservative in their actions for fear of the virus. Which makes me think that town is likely to have a virus spreading role if they found some unprecedented infected.
I suggest a medic considers dr. h as a target, since he is immune and becoming a clearer townie day by day.
Maybe he hasn't been paying attention but Doc is definetly not a clearer townie Maybe you haven't been paying attention, so explain to me why DocH isn't a clearer townie day by day not confirmed. He is by no means confirmed.And would it be selfish or scummy to ask for that vaccine if it hasnt already been dished out? Role Fishing maybe? rofl for a plague doctor to use his power on me? Are you even playing this game or reading how things happen in this gameHe makes a list of players and their actions but it's not really anything new, it feels like he's scum trying to act like town. He posts a lot of small, rather irelevent posts that make him look active but are actually pretty substanceless. Investigate me all the way, but i suggest if we have a PD to make sure i dont start spreading AIDS everywhere.
My power lets me have a permanent mason relationship with someone the rest of the game. They dont know who else I add each day, and they cannot PM anyone but me. So if im red, i can distort everything to hell. But if I start spreading misinformation, I'd like to think that the people I choose would be smart enough to catch it. And even if M-rus works that it immediately contracts to the person who visits, and then contracts to the person who visits them, I cannot contract it, because I can do it at the start of each day, so people who protect and investigate me are under no danger unless I am plagued. If I am immune, I cannot contract it when I add people, so I feel like a worthy candidate of having a PD vaccinate me. Is this his power? Why haven't we heard more about it? It's been long enough for him to use it. Yes, I am the one not paying attention this game.He makes a couple apologies for being inactive
I think it's safe to say you are claiming plague doctor, and the person you protect gets notified that you did this? That could be convenient. I do find it possible that mafia could have there own plague doctor, but Im not here to speculate that. If you use your power on me, and I can add you, we can start a circle. To verify it, you would give me one bodyguard who I would relay all of the information I learn. A medic can protect me if they wish, without fearing M-rus. If there is another plague doctor besides Dr.H (if that is what you are) Id suggst picking fishball, who has stated he has means to a circle and a role. That way another medic can choose between myself and fishball to protect. Whats really important is that the medics are safe in this from the M-rus, and if fishball or I die from a lucky shot by mafia, then oh well, fishball or myself die.
Is this plausible Dr. H? If so, then you have my vote.
Here's his reason for voting for our dear mayor. I can't even believe how much misinformation you are spreading around. Do I really need to explain this stuff? I said if he was claiming plague doctor, we could check him to see, and it would be a much more valuable mayor then the 'sticky' version.I did not withdraw my candidacy, I merely stated that fishball's plan was similar to mine, and if alot of the town thought him the better candidate I would not have a problem, but after reading into it and stating my opinions, I still want to be mayor, because
1) I know Im town, and will work in every way possible to make everything clear to everyone on what is happening.
2) I can make bodyguards in my circle! 100% confirmed townies, so if im poisoned or lynched, I can pass on all my info to them. How you will verify them though, might be a tad confusing. I hope to figure that out, and Im open to ideas.
3) I WONT FUCK IT UP. (Fairly sure fishball wont either if he isnt red)
Again, Im fairly certain it should be between fishball and I, because we can make circles happen, and he has stated that he has the power to flesh out the weeds of his. I'd like for him to address connecting circles through me, that would be cool. I need to catch up now, I was working.
Also, if a person is contaminated with M-rus in the night, and they are visited that same night, do the visitors contract it?
This is very important, because if medics protect him, we need to know how the M-rus functions. Someone help me out, what does he mean by this post? He can make body guards? ROFL? I'm sorry, I think you need to read the thread again, or at least look who was running for mayor.I am not in Fishball's circle. I have an ability to form a town circle of my choosing. I already choose my first person.
I don't have any other role, but I can easily access any circle already made if they are pro town. I don't have anything to hide now, and I guarantee everything I do will have crystal clear reasons as to why. The only thing I will not tell you is who. I believe my method will work slower then fishball, but it will be more effective later on.
It's not all that dangerous if I am not mayor, but it can be really strong if I am mayor. I dont think anyone aside from fishball has hinted that they can do this. It should be between me and him. Here's where he first talks about his role, a role easily faked by scum (like fishballs but fishball was proved innocent and I think that makes it even more likely the bum is lying). SHIT I have to go but I'm gonna post this anyway... I'll be back. It seems you are a bit confused as to the reasons why I would be scummy at all. And Dr. H is in my circle. So is one other that I wont disclose. Everything you have said derives from your inconsistent understanding of what is happening. Someone else post a better analysis if you are really going to be suspicious of me, which I find on the other hand to be completely reasonable since I am the only candidate with one mafia to have voted for me and no confirmed townies. And if anyone wants to link Dr. H and I, go ahead. On the contrary, I want you to explain to me why DrH is becoming a clearer townie day by day in spite of the fact that the last 50 pages or so have been a clusterfuck involving Pandain, Coagulation, and myself poking holes in DrH's story the whole way through, and that DrH has not confirmed his role and was a major advocate for lynching Aeres (who as you know was blue).
i feel pretty confident saying none of you poked holes in anything
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On November 03 2010 13:17 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 13:09 bumatlarge wrote:
It seems you are a bit confused as to the reasons why I would be scummy at all. And Dr. H is in my circle. So is one other that I wont disclose.
I was under the assumption that you could only invite one person per night and there has only been one set of resolved night actions so far, unless the invitation process takes place during the day?
On October 30 2010 06:05 bumatlarge wrote:
I am not in Fishball's circle. I have an ability to form a town circle of my choosing. I already choose my first person.
I don't have any other role, but I can easily access any circle already made if they are pro town. I don't have anything to hide now, and I guarantee everything I do will have crystal clear reasons as to why. The only thing I will not tell you is who. I believe my method will work slower then fishball, but it will be more effective later on.
It's not all that dangerous if I am not mayor, but it can be really strong if I am mayor. I dont think anyone aside from fishball has hinted that they can do this. It should be between me and him.
Still, it is quite interesting to read bum's first 20 or so posts. He says no to roleclaims then proceeds to do so, and has some interesting posts about the town circle ideas before he roleclaims
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On November 03 2010 07:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 06:57 L wrote:
I'm super disappointed that I need to take off, but don't be too Romanian while i'm gone, cube. If your English is making you say dumb stuff, proof read before posting.
Otherwise: toodles. Although I know this is in jest, please do not use personal insults against players.
As for KtheZ, please post in this thread. If you continue not to post in the coming night I will have to resort to a modkill even though you have voted.
How is this a personal insult? Either he has poor English skills, or he just flat out said he's cool with mafia walking all over us.
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In other news, DocH can you outline exactly how your role works? I see a bunch of other people piecing together the puzzle, but I'd rather have your version.
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During the night I can poke someone. If I poke them they receive a PM saying something to the effect of "You have been poked by DoctorHelvetica"
If the poke is successful, then I know they don't have murrayitis. However, Artanis will not tell me whether my poke was successful or not, so the other person can lie and say I did not poke them.
If they have murrayitis, the poke will not succeed, but Artanis will tell me they have Murrayitis. If the poke doesn't succeed AND I don't get a PM from Artanis saying they have M-Rus then it is likely I was roleblocked, they lied, or that they were commuted or something to that effect.
I am also immune to M-rus.
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i dont even see how that would prove you are town. how would it be any different if a mafia poked someone?
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I am trying to catch up a bit right now since I will be working and going to class a lot for the next 3 days so I want to try to actually help a little bit first. But I am a little far behind.
First I am on around page 75 right after the second day post where the mafia did their first actual kills. There are a couple of things I read which still are apparently unspecified.
If I understand correctly apparently the mafia kill people and their is also a separate disease called murrayitis that runs around and kills townies.
Apparently the Day post also references peoples roles and powers and DrH claims his power is to poke people and if you DON'T get a PM back it means they are not sick. If you were role blocked (Which from what i read it seems like you think you were)
One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy
This is supposed to reference annul iirc which means if you supposedly poked someone this could of been them. You didn't necessarily have to be role blocked. On another note since this game also has insane roles the bus driver is extremely likely. If the Bus driver switched Annul with whoever your poke target was you still would of not gotten a PM back and you could of poked Annul instead. Either that or there is more than one player who has a role such as yours where they can poke people. I would say this because It says other people meaning more than one, which would mean there might even be more than two of your role just because I don't see the odds of two people poking the same person as incredibly high unless there is some sort of role checking ability as well and some increased incentive to do so.
For an example of a situation like that. Lets say I am a really suspicious player for whatever reason, or I am for some reason a player who warrants a role check and a bus driver doesn't want that going through or wants it yielding misleading information it can be switched. If two of you did that on a certain player and it got bus'd you wouldn't have any idea that it happened since your role doesn't involve any response PM.
What I am interested to know is IF there was hypothetically a bus driver (since the mods seem to like to be difficult) and X Role checked Y and the BD switched Y with Z would X receive a PM saying the alignment of the player they thought they checked or who they actually checked? To clarify would it say "You checked Y and they came back town" or "You checked Z and they came back town" even though you checked Y it tells you that you actually checked Z?
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On November 03 2010 15:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
If I understand correctly apparently the mafia kill people and their is also a separate disease called murrayitis that runs around and kills townies.
That's true. But the Murrayitis also kills scums too. So all medics, especially Plague Doctors, need to be extremely careful not to visit mafia at all cost.
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@RoL
I don't think that paragraph refers to annul. In the part about annul's death, it says he was killed and then one other person arrived. With this guy, he wasn't killed, and multiple people arrived to find him gagged. Your find on that "prodding" part was a very good catch, though: the connection to DrH's poke is something I haven't seen made yet. I was thinking the poor guy was DrH himself, but now I'm not nearly as certain.
Also, your version of that paragraph is old; LSB has since updated it. The major change is that the "poor guy" never left his house; he found the door duct taped.
Also, I don't think the guy was bussed. It says that he would have arrived at the wrong house anyway, had his door not been taped, which seems to indicate that his target was bussed instead.
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Yeah, I dunno there is a lot to think about. I was mainly focusing on the idea that the target of the poke could of been bus'd instead of role blocked, or it could of just went through. There is just so many trivial things in this game its hard to rule anything out.
I swear I really enjoy this set up I just really wish that I was here since the beginning. With all the work I have to do it makes it really hard to try to keep up with the thread which gets another 20 pages every time I refresh. I also can't skim read because there is so much important stuff that happened that I am so far behind.
Its very demotivating :/ but I will try anyway. I just read the post by DrH recently where he talks about getting role blocked and I just wanted to bring up some obvious possibilities that he could of easily been bus'd because he made a pretty large jump on page 75ish which from a recent post (maybe 5 pages ago?) he apparently still stuck with.
I haven't really formed much of an opinion on anyone, but for such a good player it seems like a glaring oversight. It really sucks I have to sleep soon though, I actually fine this game to be the most interesting one I have played in in a long time. Reminds me of the olden days before the massive amount of F11 lamer set-ups.
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Could you point out exactly what posts you're talking about? I'm not sure exactly what you mean
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On November 03 2010 15:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Yeah, I dunno there is a lot to think about. I was mainly focusing on the idea that the target of the poke could of been bus'd instead of role blocked, or it could of just went through. There is just so many trivial things in this game its hard to rule anything out.
I swear I really enjoy this set up I just really wish that I was here since the beginning. With all the work I have to do it makes it really hard to try to keep up with the thread which gets another 20 pages every time I refresh. I also can't skim read because there is so much important stuff that happened that I am so far behind.
Its very demotivating :/ but I will try anyway. I just read the post by DrH recently where he talks about getting role blocked and I just wanted to bring up some obvious possibilities that he could of easily been bus'd because he made a pretty large jump on page 75ish which from a recent post (maybe 5 pages ago?) he apparently still stuck with.
I haven't really formed much of an opinion on anyone, but for such a good player it seems like a glaring oversight. It really sucks I have to sleep soon though, I actually fine this game to be the most interesting one I have played in in a long time. Reminds me of the olden days before the massive amount of F11 lamer set-ups.
Not being able to PM is fucking shit and makes the game boring/frustrating as hell.
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On November 03 2010 15:59 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 15:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Yeah, I dunno there is a lot to think about. I was mainly focusing on the idea that the target of the poke could of been bus'd instead of role blocked, or it could of just went through. There is just so many trivial things in this game its hard to rule anything out.
I swear I really enjoy this set up I just really wish that I was here since the beginning. With all the work I have to do it makes it really hard to try to keep up with the thread which gets another 20 pages every time I refresh. I also can't skim read because there is so much important stuff that happened that I am so far behind.
Its very demotivating :/ but I will try anyway. I just read the post by DrH recently where he talks about getting role blocked and I just wanted to bring up some obvious possibilities that he could of easily been bus'd because he made a pretty large jump on page 75ish which from a recent post (maybe 5 pages ago?) he apparently still stuck with.
I haven't really formed much of an opinion on anyone, but for such a good player it seems like a glaring oversight. It really sucks I have to sleep soon though, I actually fine this game to be the most interesting one I have played in in a long time. Reminds me of the olden days before the massive amount of F11 lamer set-ups. Not being able to PM is fucking shit and makes the game boring/frustrating as hell.
yeah i was mad about it but i can pm
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On November 03 2010 16:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 15:59 Coagulation wrote:On November 03 2010 15:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Yeah, I dunno there is a lot to think about. I was mainly focusing on the idea that the target of the poke could of been bus'd instead of role blocked, or it could of just went through. There is just so many trivial things in this game its hard to rule anything out.
I swear I really enjoy this set up I just really wish that I was here since the beginning. With all the work I have to do it makes it really hard to try to keep up with the thread which gets another 20 pages every time I refresh. I also can't skim read because there is so much important stuff that happened that I am so far behind.
Its very demotivating :/ but I will try anyway. I just read the post by DrH recently where he talks about getting role blocked and I just wanted to bring up some obvious possibilities that he could of easily been bus'd because he made a pretty large jump on page 75ish which from a recent post (maybe 5 pages ago?) he apparently still stuck with.
I haven't really formed much of an opinion on anyone, but for such a good player it seems like a glaring oversight. It really sucks I have to sleep soon though, I actually fine this game to be the most interesting one I have played in in a long time. Reminds me of the olden days before the massive amount of F11 lamer set-ups. Not being able to PM is fucking shit and makes the game boring/frustrating as hell. yeah i was mad about it but i can pm
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PMing was kind pf shitty when i was a newcomer i felt like i was in the middle of two clashing sides and left in the dark. The games sucked unless you knew people. Which until i was mafia for the first time i didn't.
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