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L, it's in sixths bro. Chez's got it straight.
Anyway.
Since he claims he wasn’t fishing…
Bill Murray
Current Vote: Team 7 (along with his partner, Chezinu), changed from Team 5 (more specifically, YellowInk)
Posts: 22, but he’s a fan of double-posting and triple-posting and all that.
+ Show Spoiler +Any posts that I skip should be considered useless. On June 22 2010 15:07 Bill Murray wrote:
putting pressure on a 3 man team would therefore put more pressure on them as it would give us information from 3 people. for that reasoning, considering it is the RV stage, we should probably be more apt to randomly vote for a 3 person team to create 33% more pressure hmm, not a bad idea (who cares about the math – 50% more pressure isn’t it?). Surprising that he started on YellowInk then, rather than a 3 person team?
From johnnyspazz: On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Chezinu, who are we going to protect? On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote:
I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt. On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote:
I would say protect ace, korynne is likely scum major f.o.s. On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote:
Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect
Hmm… they know that it’s possible for this to be read. So they are either making themselves targets, legitimately don’t think they’re allowed to PM, or are trying to screw up the town. I lean toward the last one because that’s what they always do. On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote:since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: Show nested quote +so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. All that’s saying here is that he thinks YellowInk is scum, based on the fact that YellowInk appears to be town. … I think I’ve said before that I don’t see the logic there. On June 23 2010 03:14 Bill Murray wrote:
Nice try at trying to shake your mud off and put it on me -- it's not going to work. You are in line with your scum meta this game, and since you've come into the spotlight, i will not let you out of it or you are gone, lynched, donzo. period.
by taking the spotlight like you did you are either anti town who will not stay in the spotlight and are going to be lynched or you are going to help the town by staying in the spotlight you have created for yourself.
as to people who dislike encoding messages, i do not specifically see where we cannot communicate with other pro town members in the thread. i'm sure the people who are complaining (radfield and korynnes team, and team 5) are actually the teams likely to be mafia from my perspective, which is why they're complaining.
Newer players, notice how YellowInk has no logical argument towards me so he has to use colors with his posts to back up his weakness? So all you’re saying is that if YellowInk continues to stay in the spotlight, he’s town? Terrible logic. YellowInk stayed in the spotlight, but that doesn’t make him town. He just loves the spotlight. There’s no reason for him to jump into the spotlight if he’s mafia, but like you say later, he did this last game too, so this says nothing about him. And again, I don’t see a logical argument from you either… and YellowInk only accused you as a response, which is as typical of a townie as it is of a mafia player. On June 23 2010 03:20 Bill Murray wrote:
Your play in this and xxvii or whichever one it was in have been differing. I do not take it as being evolution of your meta-game either. The way I am taking it is that you have a power role. Being fairly unfamiliar with your play, I am going to take my vote off of you for now, as you did seem to take the spotlight in the other game you were in (I had you confused with another player, Trezeguet23). I do note some differences in your play, though, as in the other game you seem to be a lot more joking while taking the spotlight.
Hmm. Clarify by what you mean by “the way you are taking it”? He responded to you… he did that last game too, he responded directly to anyone who ever said anything about him. On June 23 2010 03:24 Bill Murray wrote:
Wow. Lynch this guy. First, the mafia won't know shit if they have a roleblocker
They can have a roleblocker while we have 7 townies, they don't know anything
WE can also not be sure to have a detective at all
I was about to take my vote off of you, but the way you are acting, it is staying there for the rest of the game.
Also, advising DT not to go to lategame is ill informed in my opinion as well. Every DT messup i've ever really seen has occurred by the DT revealing too early
I also dislike the negative near-omgus you are directing towards bumatlarge. While his play may be scummy scummy play doesn't always = scum. I am not saying carry him into a lynch or lose scenario, but that he is not acting nearly as scummy as other people, namely you.
humm... again, I agree with a later claim in general for this setup. Not sure if the intensity you put into this is appropriate though... I don't think his roleblocker analysis is off though. In that paragraph, he's assuming we have a DT, and therefore the mafia would know if there's a medic or not based on whether or not they have a roleblocker. And it seems logical to me for the mafia to do such a thing, assuming roleblocker, medic, and DT are all in play (hit someone else, roleblock the DT). Otherwise, they straight up hit the DT. His accusation on bumatlarge is the same one that you make on him... zzz. On June 23 2010 03:25 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +[Setup 2] -
1 Mafia Goon
1 Mafia Roleblocker
7 Townies I see why you posted this now… but it wasn’t really necessary. =P On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.
If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? lol. Accusations ftw? On June 23 2010 03:31 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:27 YellowInk wrote:
I am fine with being in the spotlight. Whether I am lynched is always up to the town. Honestly, if I weren't me, I'd be suspect of myself if I were quiet, where being loud gives no credit either for or against me. Your contrived explanations to turn up the heat on me where it's not due is kind of silly, though.
Is my last post logical enough for your tastes? Show nested quote +@BM I think I was pretty clear that I wasn't shaking mud on you. I'm not sure why you continue to place heat on me unreasonably. That you persist in this fashion is sketchy, but I've known players with your style before and it's fine. The fact that you are continuously getting heat from me is because your play is deteriorating are you are completely misinterpreting the setup and passing along heinously wrong information to the players who are uninformed. Show nested quote +I am fine with being in the spotlight. Whether I am lynched is always up to the town. Honestly, if I weren't me, I'd be suspect of myself if I were quiet, where being loud gives no credit either for or against me. Your contrived explanations to turn up the heat on me where it's not due is kind of silly, though. How is you misinterpreting the thread and trying to push forward anti-town and negative ideas CONTRIVED? It isn't. You are my #1 scum candidate. A second reason is your OMGUS vote of Bumatlarge after the RVS in which this shit shouldn't be allowed to happen. You are approaching the point where you will be lynched by the better players for sheer policy. Either way you look at it, if you back off the spotlight, or continue to make mistakes, you will go from FoS to being hammered by someone. Misinterpreting setup ~ possible intentional scum move. More often newbie move, nothing to lynch on. Hmm.. it’s interesting that he “OMGUS”’d bumatlarge. But he didn’t really do so without reason. So it’s not really OMGUS is it? I’ll buy that as a pink flag though. I don’t quite understand your plan here, BM. If you weren’t fishing, then what were you doing? You’re forcing YellowInk to post more, but also telling him that he needs to post more pro-town, which is what I think he was doing/trying to do. If you really think he’s mafia, why are you warning him? If you think he’s town, why are you still on his case? On June 23 2010 09:40 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 04:56 Korynne wrote:
So there seems to be a bandwagon starting on YellowInk. I don't like it very much... Mainly because I believe that YellowInk is relatively easy to read, so I don't think we'll have a lot of trouble dealing with him in the later days as we would some other people *cough*L*cough*Chezinu*cough*. So I would definitely favour lynching a group of inactives or someone hard to read over lynching YellowInk.
Those are my two cents on the matter. I WONDER WHY YOU DONT LIKE A TRAIN ON YOUR SCUM BUDDY LOL Lol, more accusing of Korynne. Where’s the backup for that?
Basically along post complaining "I'm actively lurking like scum", why don't you all do the same and hide my mafia-like behavior?
? I’m pretty sure he was saying that he DIDN’T like the inactivity…
You're saying I'm posting whargarrbl when you're omgus and trying to derail the thread from proper scumhunting... FURTHERMORE, you are also attacking my solely because I am attacking you. You fail to scumhunt someone other than your attacker, which is another form of OMGUS. Your arguments with me are beginning to appear town on town to me, though, so if you are mafia you are doing better than you were previously.
Hummm, okay o_o. Laying off Yellow now, but saying his posts are crappy? I hope that’s the proper interpretation.
Ace just wants the only people who actually scumhunt to be offed...
Subtle. Real nice accusation =p. On June 23 2010 10:02 Bill Murray wrote:
which is why im voting team 7
radfield, is it wrong to vote someone who acts scummy when you KNOW they are town or townie?
Yes, it is. You know this. If it wasn't then half of teamliquid would deserve policy lynching. Okay, inactivity’s legit. But it’s not wrong to vote someone scummy when you KNOW they are town. It’s a form of fishing. But I guess, in your case, it is wrong.. -_- On June 23 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:06 Ace wrote:
L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot. I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo. I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect zyrre for instance is drawing my fos Another soft accusation… why? Give me reasons, and don’t say, “he just looks scummy.” Well, you can say that, but back it up with posts/quotes. + Show Spoiler [recent lost post] +On June 23 2010 12:10 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:16 Ace wrote:On June 23 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote:On June 23 2010 11:06 Ace wrote:
L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot. I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo. I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect zyrre for instance is drawing my fos well yes if someone is always known for revenge voting it may be a null tell but it also means they should probably be at the top of the suspect list. Also it depends on the nature of the vote: If you're doing it while building a case then it's fine. If you do it just because you have nothing else to do and crap reasoning then you come off looking squirmish and guilty. Also there isn't that much information flowing around. A lot of it is people poking holes around to see what people say. Like L claiming my team or Radfield's team must be Mafia because his top target sucks: thats ridiculous logic. I'm not sure if it's obnoxious L being sincere or he's faking it but either way it's dumb. Show nested quote +
If you're doing it while building a case then it's fine. If you do it just because you have nothing else to do and crap reasoning then you come off looking squirmish and guilty.
I'll keep that in mind, as I didn't ever understand why people would vote for me when acting like an idiot in this way. I figured that AtE wasn't really a bad thing if used properly, but you make me see the broader picture here tbh. I would say that it's just him analyzing things from his perspective. Noone really know what is going through L's head... Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. You're wrong! I wasn't fishing at all.  Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right. Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances. On June 23 2010 10:47 BrownBear wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please? Brownie B: You mean apart from johnny starting day 1 with a "lets kill L lol" post, stormtemplar saying next to nothing besides 1-2 line me-too and you showing up going "lol gj allies for making me look bad" and then a wagon vote on the frontrunners as protection. Pretty contentless garbage from your team in general. Next post: we get into interesting stuff. "I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right." LOL. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:27 L wrote:
Oh, silly me, Top of the page darth comes out too.
That makes all 4 of you. Connect 4! lol L if you're not going to go into law you should go into comedy and i say that in all seriousness not the over-used cliche-style joke Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:28 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 11:05 johnnyspazz wrote:darth why you be hating on me? am i really THAT suspicious? I’d like to remind everyone of one of the first posts I looked at – johnnyspazz’s accusation of L. Completely uncalled for, and a very aggressive move, with potential of drawing even some “veterans” into the bait. Keep an eye on him. i think this is called RVS, someone correct me if i'm wrong. How is that random? It's based on the fact that you voted to lynch L straight off with absolutely no possible evidence or logical reasoning, other than the idea that L has the potential to lead us to our death. So does Bill Murray. So does Chezinu, to some extent. Other people might - but why not those other two, for example? Why L? On June 23 2010 11:06 L wrote:On June 23 2010 11:03 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right. Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances. On June 23 2010 10:47 BrownBear wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please? Brownie B: You mean apart from johnny starting day 1 with a "lets kill L lol" post, stormtemplar saying next to nothing besides 1-2 line me-too and you showing up going "lol gj allies for making me look bad" and then a wagon vote on the frontrunners as protection. Pretty contentless garbage from your team in general. Next post: we get into interesting stuff. Ah, okay. I'm not sure about that though. YellowInk's a pretty strong player, albeit new. I'd put Team 5 above Teams 7, 8, and 9 for that reason, although I don't really remember how good meeple is. Zyrre's like half a YellowInk because of a similar quality of posting, he's less active, and Nikon and Durak are both newbies so nothing there. DCLXVI and MooCow are both so-so, and Divinek I don't know. Neither of the first two are all that great for posting content / being active. This is all based on my playing XXVII. But, to be honest, I don't care about a 'balanced mafia group' team-strength wise. Didn't someone say flamewheel usually goes random? Nikon is not even remotely new, nor is MooCow. Meeple is relatively strong either way. I'd be very surprised if flamewheel would admit to fixing the teams, but f11 setups are normally jiggled around after the rng to make things a bit less dumb. Eh, I don't know who Nikon is at all, my bad xD. MooCow is pretty new isn't he? I thought XXVII was his first game, making two games total. But okay, fair enough. I will admit that the last time I played in a setup like this I disrailed the thread by pushing the lynches of two town-on-town argumentees i was going up against (flamewheel and kf91). If you'll notice, though, I have learned from my bad-play and am not pushing further for YellowInk's head to be hung (because I realize I am not the one who should be deciding anymore, and that there is a likelihood of it being town on town....) THAT being said, we need to lynch someone. I know that you all are going to look down upon this, but to me i have a 25% chance to lynch another team and have them turn up scum... my team to me isnt scum unless chezinu got the role pm that he was brown and didn't tell me... otherwise we are definitely with the town/townies. in that case, 1/4 of you other teams are mafia, which is where we get the 25% chance of a random hit on mafia... we cannot risk not lynching SOMEONE right now. If we hit that 25% chance and it's 7/8 people town-aligned then we nearly have the game won already. We can't afford to not have that and have a no-lynch or whatever. I don't expect that, nor do I have that good of targets other than that Zyrre guy.. but he may just be bad. what do you better players think of who we should lynch? @the last paragraph, because the rest idc about: yes, you’re right. We need to lynch someone. Why Zyrre though? Elaboratee plz.
Conclusions so far: BM, you’re throwing a lot of unsupported accusations. I’ll buy the whole YellowInk argument as you thinking he’s mafia although I mostly don’t agree with your logic, but your accusations on Team 1, Ace, and Zyrre haven’t really been supported at all in your posts. You throwing around all of these accusations doesn’t help the town AT ALL unless you support it and give logical reasoning. It’s not that hard, unless you’re making a case that you don’t actually believe in (ie. you’re mafia). So either give me an explanation as to why you think all of the people I just listed are mafia, especially Ace =P, or consider yourself extremely suspicious for over-aggressiveness and an attempt to start multiple bandwagons. Furthermore, you're cluttering the thread with generally bad posts. The only thing saving you right now is, well, your spamming, but I won’t buy that for long, especially because I know it’s pretty easy for a mafia player to jump into the spotlight.
Sup. Feel free to ask if my logic doesn't seem to be logic.
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On June 23 2010 13:42 L wrote:
... That's retarded.
It's perfectly fine, the only downside would be a disagreement with your own teammate, thus splitting it into smaller fractions. But they did sign up later, and no one on 3man teams has complained. Are you going to complain for them?
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Bill Murray isn't even giving me an explanation of his actions.. Why can't town analyze me instead of BM?
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On June 23 2010 13:45 Chezinu wrote:
Bill Murray isn't even giving me an explanation of his actions.. Why can't town analyze me instead of BM?
cuz you weren't in a huge battle with YellowInk that put you in the spotlight and made me go "o_o". Is that a good reason? 
On another note, I did for the luls.
Furthermore, I'd like to take this opportunity to place a vote of no confidence in the Supreme Chancellor, namely Flamewheel Valorum. I may or may not be influenced by my Senator, Ace Palpatine.
In retrospect, this seems a little backwards, since I'm the Sith here, but I don't think Ace would ever agree to posting something like this =P.
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please lynch L he's such a fagtron
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I don’t quite understand your plan here, BM. If you weren’t fishing, then what were you doing?
See: Sarcasm
the wise L sayeth
haters going to hate
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L O L
Entertainment Value indeed
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On June 23 2010 12:53 L wrote:
Brownbear, sup. The entirety of the post content I made in the post you're replying to is directed at Durak, not you.
The portion directed at you was the paragraph wherein I ask you questions.
Sorry if there's a misunderstanding.
Sup. Just finished checking all the facts in my reply so you can read it easily. Here's my response and why your vendetta against me is ridiculous.
On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right.
"decided to speak up and prove me right" is a non-nonsensical conclusion. I called you out on your baseless conclusion post. Somehow creating a strong counter-argument to your posts proves you're right? I guess this post is going to make you right as rain!
On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:
Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances.
Most ridiculous argument I’ve ever seen. Flamewheel said that he chose teams randomly therefore your first premise is incorrect. Your second premise is that you’re green. I guess we’ll just accept that at face value. Your conclusion follows from these two premises so it’s unsound.[Note: Wrote this before you conceded all this in later posts. Hope this doesn't sound redundant coming so late]
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
The post you're me-tooing, its pretty interesting. Me going 'afk' all day like its a bad thing? I've said multiple times that I work. I'm gone the majority of the day but i post when I'm here. Second, I've gone under the radar? I have the first large post of the game. I've called people out in nearly every fucking post I've made.
I never said going afk was a bad thing. If you look at the context, I was saying that you can’t summarize everyone’s opinions (incorrectly, at that) when you haven’t been around to ask them. Unless you are a part of a discussion and get everyone’s input, you can’t conclude what the majority’s opinions are. I have no problem with you voicing your opinions but you've been "representing us" since before the game started. This is all discussed in my other post.
You were under the radar. You were one of the first to post after the game started then you didn’t post for 21 hours. Even if we accept that you work during the day, 21 hours is a pretty long time after you show interest by being one of the first to post after the game starts.
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
Who the fuck are YOU by contrast?
Chill out man. I haven’t pretended to be anybody. I’m just replying rationally to your posts. You’re posting summaries of opinions and town plans without any authority. This is irrelevant to my argument anyway; you’re just trying to divert attention.
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
Near 0 contributions thusfar coming from a quiet team.
I don’t claim to contribute much to this thread because it’s my first game. I hope to at least show how your reasoning in these posts is incorrect though. That doesn’t take any knowledge of mafia.
My “quiet team” is me and YellowInk. I’m pretty sure he has the most posts in the thread.
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
Third, no, those choices aren't biased. They were based on the last 3 pages prior to that post and summarized what other people were saying at that point. I've been gone for the majority of the day, as you've said. What's more, I explicitly push both Ace and Radfield's team in that post, meaning that out of the 5 teams I'm watching, only 2 I had on my radar at the start.
Reviewing the three pages before your post, I see no reason for you conclude that the town is leaning towards those three groups. You even missed the few posts right before yours that mention team 7. I don't think you can summarize three people suggest they'll vote for three different teams as a summary of the towns opinions. It's convenient that 2/3 you bolded were the two you pushed for in the first page and badmouthed a couple pages earlier.
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
So, given that all your claims are terrible, why are you making them? Well, its because the biggest chunk of my post is essentially saying that if you flip red, I'm pretty sure I know who your allies are. That makes you quite possibly the best lynch target for the night. Instead of arguing that you're legit, you instead throw out some OMGUS.
You make a bunch of claims as to the “town suspects” and then say whoever responds you know who their allies are? That doesn’t make sense. Case in point, me. I’m calling you out because you lack logical reasoning. I don’t know what your roll is and I’m not trying to play psychologist like you. I’m saying your logic is flawed.
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote: So brownbear, why you supporting an obviously garbage post? From the content and retaliatory nature, its poor on both counts. The only reason I can even start to imagine is that you're happy someone is accusing people who accuse you. As for Durak or whatever, lol you're pretty jokes.
Response unneeded. Not sure what’s up with the libel though. I haven’t done anything to you.
I read the rest of your posts after this and multiple other people were refuting them. If you want me to address anything else, let me know.
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On June 23 2010 13:42 DarthThienAn wrote:L, it's in sixths bro. Chez's got it straight. Anyway. Since he claims he wasn’t fishing… Bill MurrayCurrent Vote: Team 7 (along with his partner, Chezinu), changed from Team 5 (more specifically, YellowInk) Posts: 22, but he’s a fan of double-posting and triple-posting and all that. + Show Spoiler +Any posts that I skip should be considered useless. On June 22 2010 15:07 Bill Murray wrote:
putting pressure on a 3 man team would therefore put more pressure on them as it would give us information from 3 people. for that reasoning, considering it is the RV stage, we should probably be more apt to randomly vote for a 3 person team to create 33% more pressure hmm, not a bad idea (who cares about the math – 50% more pressure isn’t it?). Surprising that he started on YellowInk then, rather than a 3 person team?
From johnnyspazz: On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Chezinu, who are we going to protect? On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote:
I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt. On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote:
I would say protect ace, korynne is likely scum major f.o.s. On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote:
Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect
Hmm… they know that it’s possible for this to be read. So they are either making themselves targets, legitimately don’t think they’re allowed to PM, or are trying to screw up the town. I lean toward the last one because that’s what they always do. On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote:since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: Show nested quote +so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. All that’s saying here is that he thinks YellowInk is scum, based on the fact that YellowInk appears to be town. … I think I’ve said before that I don’t see the logic there. On June 23 2010 03:14 Bill Murray wrote:
Nice try at trying to shake your mud off and put it on me -- it's not going to work. You are in line with your scum meta this game, and since you've come into the spotlight, i will not let you out of it or you are gone, lynched, donzo. period.
by taking the spotlight like you did you are either anti town who will not stay in the spotlight and are going to be lynched or you are going to help the town by staying in the spotlight you have created for yourself.
as to people who dislike encoding messages, i do not specifically see where we cannot communicate with other pro town members in the thread. i'm sure the people who are complaining (radfield and korynnes team, and team 5) are actually the teams likely to be mafia from my perspective, which is why they're complaining.
Newer players, notice how YellowInk has no logical argument towards me so he has to use colors with his posts to back up his weakness? So all you’re saying is that if YellowInk continues to stay in the spotlight, he’s town? Terrible logic. YellowInk stayed in the spotlight, but that doesn’t make him town. He just loves the spotlight. There’s no reason for him to jump into the spotlight if he’s mafia, but like you say later, he did this last game too, so this says nothing about him. And again, I don’t see a logical argument from you either… and YellowInk only accused you as a response, which is as typical of a townie as it is of a mafia player. On June 23 2010 03:20 Bill Murray wrote:
Your play in this and xxvii or whichever one it was in have been differing. I do not take it as being evolution of your meta-game either. The way I am taking it is that you have a power role. Being fairly unfamiliar with your play, I am going to take my vote off of you for now, as you did seem to take the spotlight in the other game you were in (I had you confused with another player, Trezeguet23). I do note some differences in your play, though, as in the other game you seem to be a lot more joking while taking the spotlight.
Hmm. Clarify by what you mean by “the way you are taking it”? He responded to you… he did that last game too, he responded directly to anyone who ever said anything about him. On June 23 2010 03:24 Bill Murray wrote:
Wow. Lynch this guy. First, the mafia won't know shit if they have a roleblocker
They can have a roleblocker while we have 7 townies, they don't know anything
WE can also not be sure to have a detective at all
I was about to take my vote off of you, but the way you are acting, it is staying there for the rest of the game.
Also, advising DT not to go to lategame is ill informed in my opinion as well. Every DT messup i've ever really seen has occurred by the DT revealing too early
I also dislike the negative near-omgus you are directing towards bumatlarge. While his play may be scummy scummy play doesn't always = scum. I am not saying carry him into a lynch or lose scenario, but that he is not acting nearly as scummy as other people, namely you.
humm... again, I agree with a later claim in general for this setup. Not sure if the intensity you put into this is appropriate though... I don't think his roleblocker analysis is off though. In that paragraph, he's assuming we have a DT, and therefore the mafia would know if there's a medic or not based on whether or not they have a roleblocker. And it seems logical to me for the mafia to do such a thing, assuming roleblocker, medic, and DT are all in play (hit someone else, roleblock the DT). Otherwise, they straight up hit the DT. His accusation on bumatlarge is the same one that you make on him... zzz. On June 23 2010 03:25 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +[Setup 2] -
1 Mafia Goon
1 Mafia Roleblocker
7 Townies I see why you posted this now… but it wasn’t really necessary. =P On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.
If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? lol. Accusations ftw? On June 23 2010 03:31 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:27 YellowInk wrote:
I am fine with being in the spotlight. Whether I am lynched is always up to the town. Honestly, if I weren't me, I'd be suspect of myself if I were quiet, where being loud gives no credit either for or against me. Your contrived explanations to turn up the heat on me where it's not due is kind of silly, though.
Is my last post logical enough for your tastes? Show nested quote +@BM I think I was pretty clear that I wasn't shaking mud on you. I'm not sure why you continue to place heat on me unreasonably. That you persist in this fashion is sketchy, but I've known players with your style before and it's fine. The fact that you are continuously getting heat from me is because your play is deteriorating are you are completely misinterpreting the setup and passing along heinously wrong information to the players who are uninformed. Show nested quote +I am fine with being in the spotlight. Whether I am lynched is always up to the town. Honestly, if I weren't me, I'd be suspect of myself if I were quiet, where being loud gives no credit either for or against me. Your contrived explanations to turn up the heat on me where it's not due is kind of silly, though. How is you misinterpreting the thread and trying to push forward anti-town and negative ideas CONTRIVED? It isn't. You are my #1 scum candidate. A second reason is your OMGUS vote of Bumatlarge after the RVS in which this shit shouldn't be allowed to happen. You are approaching the point where you will be lynched by the better players for sheer policy. Either way you look at it, if you back off the spotlight, or continue to make mistakes, you will go from FoS to being hammered by someone. Misinterpreting setup ~ possible intentional scum move. More often newbie move, nothing to lynch on. Hmm.. it’s interesting that he “OMGUS”’d bumatlarge. But he didn’t really do so without reason. So it’s not really OMGUS is it? I’ll buy that as a pink flag though. I don’t quite understand your plan here, BM. If you weren’t fishing, then what were you doing? You’re forcing YellowInk to post more, but also telling him that he needs to post more pro-town, which is what I think he was doing/trying to do. If you really think he’s mafia, why are you warning him? If you think he’s town, why are you still on his case? On June 23 2010 09:40 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 04:56 Korynne wrote:
So there seems to be a bandwagon starting on YellowInk. I don't like it very much... Mainly because I believe that YellowInk is relatively easy to read, so I don't think we'll have a lot of trouble dealing with him in the later days as we would some other people *cough*L*cough*Chezinu*cough*. So I would definitely favour lynching a group of inactives or someone hard to read over lynching YellowInk.
Those are my two cents on the matter. I WONDER WHY YOU DONT LIKE A TRAIN ON YOUR SCUM BUDDY LOL Lol, more accusing of Korynne. Where’s the backup for that?
Basically along post complaining "I'm actively lurking like scum", why don't you all do the same and hide my mafia-like behavior?
? I’m pretty sure he was saying that he DIDN’T like the inactivity…
You're saying I'm posting whargarrbl when you're omgus and trying to derail the thread from proper scumhunting... FURTHERMORE, you are also attacking my solely because I am attacking you. You fail to scumhunt someone other than your attacker, which is another form of OMGUS. Your arguments with me are beginning to appear town on town to me, though, so if you are mafia you are doing better than you were previously.
Hummm, okay o_o. Laying off Yellow now, but saying his posts are crappy? I hope that’s the proper interpretation.
Ace just wants the only people who actually scumhunt to be offed...
Subtle. Real nice accusation =p. On June 23 2010 10:02 Bill Murray wrote:
which is why im voting team 7
radfield, is it wrong to vote someone who acts scummy when you KNOW they are town or townie?
Yes, it is. You know this. If it wasn't then half of teamliquid would deserve policy lynching. Okay, inactivity’s legit. But it’s not wrong to vote someone scummy when you KNOW they are town. It’s a form of fishing. But I guess, in your case, it is wrong.. -_- On June 23 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:06 Ace wrote:
L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot. I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo. I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect zyrre for instance is drawing my fos Another soft accusation… why? Give me reasons, and don’t say, “he just looks scummy.” Well, you can say that, but back it up with posts/quotes. + Show Spoiler [recent lost post] +On June 23 2010 12:10 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:16 Ace wrote:On June 23 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote:On June 23 2010 11:06 Ace wrote:
L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot. I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo. I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect zyrre for instance is drawing my fos well yes if someone is always known for revenge voting it may be a null tell but it also means they should probably be at the top of the suspect list. Also it depends on the nature of the vote: If you're doing it while building a case then it's fine. If you do it just because you have nothing else to do and crap reasoning then you come off looking squirmish and guilty. Also there isn't that much information flowing around. A lot of it is people poking holes around to see what people say. Like L claiming my team or Radfield's team must be Mafia because his top target sucks: thats ridiculous logic. I'm not sure if it's obnoxious L being sincere or he's faking it but either way it's dumb. Show nested quote +
If you're doing it while building a case then it's fine. If you do it just because you have nothing else to do and crap reasoning then you come off looking squirmish and guilty.
I'll keep that in mind, as I didn't ever understand why people would vote for me when acting like an idiot in this way. I figured that AtE wasn't really a bad thing if used properly, but you make me see the broader picture here tbh. I would say that it's just him analyzing things from his perspective. Noone really know what is going through L's head... Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. You're wrong! I wasn't fishing at all. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right. Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances. On June 23 2010 10:47 BrownBear wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please? Brownie B: You mean apart from johnny starting day 1 with a "lets kill L lol" post, stormtemplar saying next to nothing besides 1-2 line me-too and you showing up going "lol gj allies for making me look bad" and then a wagon vote on the frontrunners as protection. Pretty contentless garbage from your team in general. Next post: we get into interesting stuff. "I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right." LOL. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:27 L wrote:
Oh, silly me, Top of the page darth comes out too.
That makes all 4 of you. Connect 4! lol L if you're not going to go into law you should go into comedy and i say that in all seriousness not the over-used cliche-style joke Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:28 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 11:05 johnnyspazz wrote:darth why you be hating on me? am i really THAT suspicious? I’d like to remind everyone of one of the first posts I looked at – johnnyspazz’s accusation of L. Completely uncalled for, and a very aggressive move, with potential of drawing even some “veterans” into the bait. Keep an eye on him. i think this is called RVS, someone correct me if i'm wrong. How is that random? It's based on the fact that you voted to lynch L straight off with absolutely no possible evidence or logical reasoning, other than the idea that L has the potential to lead us to our death. So does Bill Murray. So does Chezinu, to some extent. Other people might - but why not those other two, for example? Why L? On June 23 2010 11:06 L wrote:On June 23 2010 11:03 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right. Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances. On June 23 2010 10:47 BrownBear wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please? Brownie B: You mean apart from johnny starting day 1 with a "lets kill L lol" post, stormtemplar saying next to nothing besides 1-2 line me-too and you showing up going "lol gj allies for making me look bad" and then a wagon vote on the frontrunners as protection. Pretty contentless garbage from your team in general. Next post: we get into interesting stuff. Ah, okay. I'm not sure about that though. YellowInk's a pretty strong player, albeit new. I'd put Team 5 above Teams 7, 8, and 9 for that reason, although I don't really remember how good meeple is. Zyrre's like half a YellowInk because of a similar quality of posting, he's less active, and Nikon and Durak are both newbies so nothing there. DCLXVI and MooCow are both so-so, and Divinek I don't know. Neither of the first two are all that great for posting content / being active. This is all based on my playing XXVII. But, to be honest, I don't care about a 'balanced mafia group' team-strength wise. Didn't someone say flamewheel usually goes random? Nikon is not even remotely new, nor is MooCow. Meeple is relatively strong either way. I'd be very surprised if flamewheel would admit to fixing the teams, but f11 setups are normally jiggled around after the rng to make things a bit less dumb. Eh, I don't know who Nikon is at all, my bad xD. MooCow is pretty new isn't he? I thought XXVII was his first game, making two games total. But okay, fair enough. I will admit that the last time I played in a setup like this I disrailed the thread by pushing the lynches of two town-on-town argumentees i was going up against (flamewheel and kf91). If you'll notice, though, I have learned from my bad-play and am not pushing further for YellowInk's head to be hung (because I realize I am not the one who should be deciding anymore, and that there is a likelihood of it being town on town....) THAT being said, we need to lynch someone. I know that you all are going to look down upon this, but to me i have a 25% chance to lynch another team and have them turn up scum... my team to me isnt scum unless chezinu got the role pm that he was brown and didn't tell me... otherwise we are definitely with the town/townies. in that case, 1/4 of you other teams are mafia, which is where we get the 25% chance of a random hit on mafia... we cannot risk not lynching SOMEONE right now. If we hit that 25% chance and it's 7/8 people town-aligned then we nearly have the game won already. We can't afford to not have that and have a no-lynch or whatever. I don't expect that, nor do I have that good of targets other than that Zyrre guy.. but he may just be bad. what do you better players think of who we should lynch? @the last paragraph, because the rest idc about: yes, you’re right. We need to lynch someone. Why Zyrre though? Elaboratee plz. : BM, you’re throwing a lot of unsupported accusations. I’ll buy the whole YellowInk argument as you thinking he’s mafia although I mostly don’t agree with your logic, but your accusations on Team 1, Ace, and Zyrre haven’t really been supported at all in your posts. You throwing around all of these accusations doesn’t help the town AT ALL unless you support it and give logical reasoning. It’s not that hard, unless you’re making a case that you don’t actually believe in (ie. you’re mafia). So either give me an explanation as to why you think all of the people I just listed are mafia, especially Ace =P, or consider yourself extremely suspicious for over-aggressiveness and an attempt to start multiple bandwagons. Furthermore, you're cluttering the thread with generally bad posts. The only thing saving you right now is, well, your spamming, but I won’t buy that for long, especially because I know it’s pretty easy for a mafia player to jump into the spotlight. Sup. Feel free to ask if my logic doesn't seem to be logic.
Well, considering you're bringing up an argument which has been dead for pages in my opinion, i'll address this one last time.
YellowInk was acting very scummy at the RVS for me, so I prodded him or needled him to see if he would argue with me. He did eventually. He had a very scummy sounding post in my opinion towards bumatlarge. That rekindled the suspicion I had had from the RVS.
I am not sure if he is mafia, so I shifted my vote towards someone who has been actively lurking, Zyrre. I do not know his meta, so I am going to be keeping my vote on him for this until he proves me otherwise.
I am not suspicious of Ace... I am even more suspicious of L than Ace, meaning both of them are near the bottom of my suspicious list.
My analysis of Korynne and Radfield is that they're a power role. I do not know what power role they are. This would fit in line with Korynne's play when she was red in my eyes, although I believe Radfield is trying to convince her that they should play the PM game between theirselves
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I am not sure that they are not a detective or something, though, so I will not vote to lynch them unless someone can persuade me heavily (towards slot 1)
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"meaning both of them are near the bottom of my suspicious list." Really, they are that low on your suspect list? You don't think it is one of them combined with a team 6-9? such as team 8? Bill, can we please talk in IRC?
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On June 23 2010 13:49 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +I don’t quite understand your plan here, BM. If you weren’t fishing, then what were you doing? See: Sarcasm the wise L sayeth haters going to hate
You're wrong! I wasn't fishing at all.
...way to waste my time. The wink was hardly an adequate indication of sarcasm. -___-.
On June 23 2010 13:53 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 13:42 DarthThienAn wrote:L, it's in sixths bro. Chez's got it straight. Anyway. Since he claims he wasn’t fishing… Bill MurrayCurrent Vote: Team 7 (along with his partner, Chezinu), changed from Team 5 (more specifically, YellowInk) Posts: 22, but he’s a fan of double-posting and triple-posting and all that. + Show Spoiler +Any posts that I skip should be considered useless. On June 22 2010 15:07 Bill Murray wrote:
putting pressure on a 3 man team would therefore put more pressure on them as it would give us information from 3 people. for that reasoning, considering it is the RV stage, we should probably be more apt to randomly vote for a 3 person team to create 33% more pressure hmm, not a bad idea (who cares about the math – 50% more pressure isn’t it?). Surprising that he started on YellowInk then, rather than a 3 person team?
From johnnyspazz: On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Chezinu, who are we going to protect? On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote:
I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt. On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote:
I would say protect ace, korynne is likely scum major f.o.s. On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote:
Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect
Hmm… they know that it’s possible for this to be read. So they are either making themselves targets, legitimately don’t think they’re allowed to PM, or are trying to screw up the town. I lean toward the last one because that’s what they always do. On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote:since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: Show nested quote +so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. All that’s saying here is that he thinks YellowInk is scum, based on the fact that YellowInk appears to be town. … I think I’ve said before that I don’t see the logic there. On June 23 2010 03:14 Bill Murray wrote:
Nice try at trying to shake your mud off and put it on me -- it's not going to work. You are in line with your scum meta this game, and since you've come into the spotlight, i will not let you out of it or you are gone, lynched, donzo. period.
by taking the spotlight like you did you are either anti town who will not stay in the spotlight and are going to be lynched or you are going to help the town by staying in the spotlight you have created for yourself.
as to people who dislike encoding messages, i do not specifically see where we cannot communicate with other pro town members in the thread. i'm sure the people who are complaining (radfield and korynnes team, and team 5) are actually the teams likely to be mafia from my perspective, which is why they're complaining.
Newer players, notice how YellowInk has no logical argument towards me so he has to use colors with his posts to back up his weakness? So all you’re saying is that if YellowInk continues to stay in the spotlight, he’s town? Terrible logic. YellowInk stayed in the spotlight, but that doesn’t make him town. He just loves the spotlight. There’s no reason for him to jump into the spotlight if he’s mafia, but like you say later, he did this last game too, so this says nothing about him. And again, I don’t see a logical argument from you either… and YellowInk only accused you as a response, which is as typical of a townie as it is of a mafia player. On June 23 2010 03:20 Bill Murray wrote:
Your play in this and xxvii or whichever one it was in have been differing. I do not take it as being evolution of your meta-game either. The way I am taking it is that you have a power role. Being fairly unfamiliar with your play, I am going to take my vote off of you for now, as you did seem to take the spotlight in the other game you were in (I had you confused with another player, Trezeguet23). I do note some differences in your play, though, as in the other game you seem to be a lot more joking while taking the spotlight.
Hmm. Clarify by what you mean by “the way you are taking it”? He responded to you… he did that last game too, he responded directly to anyone who ever said anything about him. On June 23 2010 03:24 Bill Murray wrote:
Wow. Lynch this guy. First, the mafia won't know shit if they have a roleblocker
They can have a roleblocker while we have 7 townies, they don't know anything
WE can also not be sure to have a detective at all
I was about to take my vote off of you, but the way you are acting, it is staying there for the rest of the game.
Also, advising DT not to go to lategame is ill informed in my opinion as well. Every DT messup i've ever really seen has occurred by the DT revealing too early
I also dislike the negative near-omgus you are directing towards bumatlarge. While his play may be scummy scummy play doesn't always = scum. I am not saying carry him into a lynch or lose scenario, but that he is not acting nearly as scummy as other people, namely you.
humm... again, I agree with a later claim in general for this setup. Not sure if the intensity you put into this is appropriate though... I don't think his roleblocker analysis is off though. In that paragraph, he's assuming we have a DT, and therefore the mafia would know if there's a medic or not based on whether or not they have a roleblocker. And it seems logical to me for the mafia to do such a thing, assuming roleblocker, medic, and DT are all in play (hit someone else, roleblock the DT). Otherwise, they straight up hit the DT. His accusation on bumatlarge is the same one that you make on him... zzz. On June 23 2010 03:25 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +[Setup 2] -
1 Mafia Goon
1 Mafia Roleblocker
7 Townies I see why you posted this now… but it wasn’t really necessary. =P On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.
If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? lol. Accusations ftw? On June 23 2010 03:31 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:27 YellowInk wrote:
I am fine with being in the spotlight. Whether I am lynched is always up to the town. Honestly, if I weren't me, I'd be suspect of myself if I were quiet, where being loud gives no credit either for or against me. Your contrived explanations to turn up the heat on me where it's not due is kind of silly, though.
Is my last post logical enough for your tastes? Show nested quote +@BM I think I was pretty clear that I wasn't shaking mud on you. I'm not sure why you continue to place heat on me unreasonably. That you persist in this fashion is sketchy, but I've known players with your style before and it's fine. The fact that you are continuously getting heat from me is because your play is deteriorating are you are completely misinterpreting the setup and passing along heinously wrong information to the players who are uninformed. Show nested quote +I am fine with being in the spotlight. Whether I am lynched is always up to the town. Honestly, if I weren't me, I'd be suspect of myself if I were quiet, where being loud gives no credit either for or against me. Your contrived explanations to turn up the heat on me where it's not due is kind of silly, though. How is you misinterpreting the thread and trying to push forward anti-town and negative ideas CONTRIVED? It isn't. You are my #1 scum candidate. A second reason is your OMGUS vote of Bumatlarge after the RVS in which this shit shouldn't be allowed to happen. You are approaching the point where you will be lynched by the better players for sheer policy. Either way you look at it, if you back off the spotlight, or continue to make mistakes, you will go from FoS to being hammered by someone. Misinterpreting setup ~ possible intentional scum move. More often newbie move, nothing to lynch on. Hmm.. it’s interesting that he “OMGUS”’d bumatlarge. But he didn’t really do so without reason. So it’s not really OMGUS is it? I’ll buy that as a pink flag though. I don’t quite understand your plan here, BM. If you weren’t fishing, then what were you doing? You’re forcing YellowInk to post more, but also telling him that he needs to post more pro-town, which is what I think he was doing/trying to do. If you really think he’s mafia, why are you warning him? If you think he’s town, why are you still on his case? On June 23 2010 09:40 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 04:56 Korynne wrote:
So there seems to be a bandwagon starting on YellowInk. I don't like it very much... Mainly because I believe that YellowInk is relatively easy to read, so I don't think we'll have a lot of trouble dealing with him in the later days as we would some other people *cough*L*cough*Chezinu*cough*. So I would definitely favour lynching a group of inactives or someone hard to read over lynching YellowInk.
Those are my two cents on the matter. I WONDER WHY YOU DONT LIKE A TRAIN ON YOUR SCUM BUDDY LOL Lol, more accusing of Korynne. Where’s the backup for that?
Basically along post complaining "I'm actively lurking like scum", why don't you all do the same and hide my mafia-like behavior?
? I’m pretty sure he was saying that he DIDN’T like the inactivity…
You're saying I'm posting whargarrbl when you're omgus and trying to derail the thread from proper scumhunting... FURTHERMORE, you are also attacking my solely because I am attacking you. You fail to scumhunt someone other than your attacker, which is another form of OMGUS. Your arguments with me are beginning to appear town on town to me, though, so if you are mafia you are doing better than you were previously.
Hummm, okay o_o. Laying off Yellow now, but saying his posts are crappy? I hope that’s the proper interpretation.
Ace just wants the only people who actually scumhunt to be offed...
Subtle. Real nice accusation =p. On June 23 2010 10:02 Bill Murray wrote:
which is why im voting team 7
radfield, is it wrong to vote someone who acts scummy when you KNOW they are town or townie?
Yes, it is. You know this. If it wasn't then half of teamliquid would deserve policy lynching. Okay, inactivity’s legit. But it’s not wrong to vote someone scummy when you KNOW they are town. It’s a form of fishing. But I guess, in your case, it is wrong.. -_- On June 23 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:06 Ace wrote:
L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot. I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo. I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect zyrre for instance is drawing my fos Another soft accusation… why? Give me reasons, and don’t say, “he just looks scummy.” Well, you can say that, but back it up with posts/quotes. + Show Spoiler [recent lost post] +On June 23 2010 12:10 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:16 Ace wrote:On June 23 2010 11:08 Bill Murray wrote:On June 23 2010 11:06 Ace wrote:
L and BM: an OMGUS vote doesn't mean someone is scum. Newbie townies do it a lot. I agree with you on this depending on the person. L casting an OMGUS makes me view him as town moreso. I do the same thing. It is scummy until I am sure that the person does it as town imo. I'm at a loss in this game, but there is more information flowing around than you would expect zyrre for instance is drawing my fos well yes if someone is always known for revenge voting it may be a null tell but it also means they should probably be at the top of the suspect list. Also it depends on the nature of the vote: If you're doing it while building a case then it's fine. If you do it just because you have nothing else to do and crap reasoning then you come off looking squirmish and guilty. Also there isn't that much information flowing around. A lot of it is people poking holes around to see what people say. Like L claiming my team or Radfield's team must be Mafia because his top target sucks: thats ridiculous logic. I'm not sure if it's obnoxious L being sincere or he's faking it but either way it's dumb. Show nested quote +
If you're doing it while building a case then it's fine. If you do it just because you have nothing else to do and crap reasoning then you come off looking squirmish and guilty.
I'll keep that in mind, as I didn't ever understand why people would vote for me when acting like an idiot in this way. I figured that AtE wasn't really a bad thing if used properly, but you make me see the broader picture here tbh. I would say that it's just him analyzing things from his perspective. Noone really know what is going through L's head... Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. You're wrong! I wasn't fishing at all. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right. Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances. On June 23 2010 10:47 BrownBear wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please? Brownie B: You mean apart from johnny starting day 1 with a "lets kill L lol" post, stormtemplar saying next to nothing besides 1-2 line me-too and you showing up going "lol gj allies for making me look bad" and then a wagon vote on the frontrunners as protection. Pretty contentless garbage from your team in general. Next post: we get into interesting stuff. "I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right." LOL. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:27 L wrote:
Oh, silly me, Top of the page darth comes out too.
That makes all 4 of you. Connect 4! lol L if you're not going to go into law you should go into comedy and i say that in all seriousness not the over-used cliche-style joke Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:28 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 11:05 johnnyspazz wrote:darth why you be hating on me? am i really THAT suspicious? I’d like to remind everyone of one of the first posts I looked at – johnnyspazz’s accusation of L. Completely uncalled for, and a very aggressive move, with potential of drawing even some “veterans” into the bait. Keep an eye on him. i think this is called RVS, someone correct me if i'm wrong. How is that random? It's based on the fact that you voted to lynch L straight off with absolutely no possible evidence or logical reasoning, other than the idea that L has the potential to lead us to our death. So does Bill Murray. So does Chezinu, to some extent. Other people might - but why not those other two, for example? Why L? On June 23 2010 11:06 L wrote:On June 23 2010 11:03 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:58 L wrote:On June 23 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
Now, looking at team 5, if they're mafia, Ace or Korynne's team is probably mafia too. Why? Team strength + argument patterns.
Hey L, what do you mean by team strength? But I'll agree that, so far, I lean more toward YI than BM, simply because at the time, I didn't think BM's arguments for calling YI mafia so strongly had a strong enough basis. I'll take a look at their argument again if he says it's actually what he was thinking, but honestly, I just saw it as fishing. The fact that he's persisting means nothing to me because he's BM. Also, let's throw team 7 into consideration as well. They don't have the suspiciousness that johnnyspazz offered, but their inactivity is inexcusable as well. I mean that team 5 is probably the weakest team in the game. Which is good, because the thusfar quiet durak decided to speak up and prove me right. Since that's the case it follows that they'd be paired with a strong team, and since i know that caller and I are green, that leaves Ace and Korynne's groups as counterbalances. On June 23 2010 10:47 BrownBear wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:
1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please? Brownie B: You mean apart from johnny starting day 1 with a "lets kill L lol" post, stormtemplar saying next to nothing besides 1-2 line me-too and you showing up going "lol gj allies for making me look bad" and then a wagon vote on the frontrunners as protection. Pretty contentless garbage from your team in general. Next post: we get into interesting stuff. Ah, okay. I'm not sure about that though. YellowInk's a pretty strong player, albeit new. I'd put Team 5 above Teams 7, 8, and 9 for that reason, although I don't really remember how good meeple is. Zyrre's like half a YellowInk because of a similar quality of posting, he's less active, and Nikon and Durak are both newbies so nothing there. DCLXVI and MooCow are both so-so, and Divinek I don't know. Neither of the first two are all that great for posting content / being active. This is all based on my playing XXVII. But, to be honest, I don't care about a 'balanced mafia group' team-strength wise. Didn't someone say flamewheel usually goes random? Nikon is not even remotely new, nor is MooCow. Meeple is relatively strong either way. I'd be very surprised if flamewheel would admit to fixing the teams, but f11 setups are normally jiggled around after the rng to make things a bit less dumb. Eh, I don't know who Nikon is at all, my bad xD. MooCow is pretty new isn't he? I thought XXVII was his first game, making two games total. But okay, fair enough. I will admit that the last time I played in a setup like this I disrailed the thread by pushing the lynches of two town-on-town argumentees i was going up against (flamewheel and kf91). If you'll notice, though, I have learned from my bad-play and am not pushing further for YellowInk's head to be hung (because I realize I am not the one who should be deciding anymore, and that there is a likelihood of it being town on town....) THAT being said, we need to lynch someone. I know that you all are going to look down upon this, but to me i have a 25% chance to lynch another team and have them turn up scum... my team to me isnt scum unless chezinu got the role pm that he was brown and didn't tell me... otherwise we are definitely with the town/townies. in that case, 1/4 of you other teams are mafia, which is where we get the 25% chance of a random hit on mafia... we cannot risk not lynching SOMEONE right now. If we hit that 25% chance and it's 7/8 people town-aligned then we nearly have the game won already. We can't afford to not have that and have a no-lynch or whatever. I don't expect that, nor do I have that good of targets other than that Zyrre guy.. but he may just be bad. what do you better players think of who we should lynch? @the last paragraph, because the rest idc about: yes, you’re right. We need to lynch someone. Why Zyrre though? Elaboratee plz. : BM, you’re throwing a lot of unsupported accusations. I’ll buy the whole YellowInk argument as you thinking he’s mafia although I mostly don’t agree with your logic, but your accusations on Team 1, Ace, and Zyrre haven’t really been supported at all in your posts. You throwing around all of these accusations doesn’t help the town AT ALL unless you support it and give logical reasoning. It’s not that hard, unless you’re making a case that you don’t actually believe in (ie. you’re mafia). So either give me an explanation as to why you think all of the people I just listed are mafia, especially Ace =P, or consider yourself extremely suspicious for over-aggressiveness and an attempt to start multiple bandwagons. Furthermore, you're cluttering the thread with generally bad posts. The only thing saving you right now is, well, your spamming, but I won’t buy that for long, especially because I know it’s pretty easy for a mafia player to jump into the spotlight. Sup. Feel free to ask if my logic doesn't seem to be logic. Well, considering you're bringing up an argument which has been dead for pages in my opinion, i'll address this one last time. YellowInk was acting very scummy at the RVS for me, so I prodded him or needled him to see if he would argue with me. He did eventually. He had a very scummy sounding post in my opinion towards bumatlarge. That rekindled the suspicion I had had from the RVS. I am not sure if he is mafia, so I shifted my vote towards someone who has been actively lurking, Zyrre. I do not know his meta, so I am going to be keeping my vote on him for this until he proves me otherwise. I am not suspicious of Ace... I am even more suspicious of L than Ace, meaning both of them are near the bottom of my suspicious list. My analysis of Korynne and Radfield is that they're a power role. I do not know what power role they are. This would fit in line with Korynne's play when she was red in my eyes, although I believe Radfield is trying to convince her that they should play the PM game between theirselves
Yeah, it's been dead. But I was going through all your posts, so for me, it came back to life. =P.
ohhh... Zyrre is on team 7. lol, I didn't even check =P. Since you said his name specifically, I assumed it was because of something he posted.
For Ace: Good, that's more accurate =P. You had that subtle thing against Ace, which is why I brought that up.
I'll bite on Korynne/Radfield. There are unexpectedly inactive for them being them. Radfield is typically one of the most active players on Day 1, and he often suggests a game plan, etc. but I don't think I saw that this game? It's off from his usual play style I think. Korynne is the same way - I expect more posting from her, more analysis, more responses/thoughts on arguments happening, etc..
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On June 23 2010 13:57 Chezinu wrote:
"meaning both of them are near the bottom of my suspicious list." Really, they are that low on your suspect list? You don't think it is one of them combined with a team 6-9? such as team 8? Bill, can we please talk in IRC?
lol, you guys sound like a married couple.
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"decided to speak up and prove me right" is a non-nonsensical conclusion. No it isn't. The first post was terrible. This second post was terrible. 100% OMGUS and poorly written OMGUS at that.
summarize everyone’s opinions (incorrectly, at that) when you haven’t been around to ask them. Unless you are a part of a discussion and get everyone’s input, you can’t conclude what the majority’s opinions are. I mean, we hit gems like this.
I can't tell you what happened because I wasn't there at the time? Buddy, its a written game. I read through the entirety of pages 4-9 in one shot, so I had a fresh picture of who was being pushed against and who wasn't.
Reviewing the three pages before your post, I see no reason for you conclude that the town is leaning towards those three groups. You even missed the few posts right before yours that mention team 7. I'm glad you can't read, and I'm glad you learned that larger posts take time to write. Good job!
You make a bunch of claims as to the “town suspects” and then say whoever responds you know who their allies are? Uh, no, I said that I know YOUR team's allies if you die and flip red, which was the entire kernel of that post that we've been talking about for the past two fucking pages.
I'm absolutely dumbfounded. Never before have I seen a post so contrived as a way of 'winning' an argument that doesn't exist. Instead of continuing wasting time with you, I propose the following game for you to play:
Why don't you tell me what roles you think teams 3, 8 and 9 have.
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On June 23 2010 13:48 Caller wrote:
please lynch L he's such a fagtron
Can you do something this game besides being my useless Siamese twin?
Thx Caller :3 <3.
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@ Chezinu LOL entertainment value indeed, L's "tumor" speaks.
@ Durak's post counting - I'm actually third in quantity of posts. Chezinu is first, BM is second. Now if you're interested in quality... well lets just leave that to viewer discretion.
@ BM claiming sarcasm - that's a pretty awful way to present sarcasm. You may have been in a sarcastic frame of mind in writing it, but it definitely didn't come out that way. Muddying the waters.
@ Chez re BM Are you guys really playing the same role? ^^
Entertainment indeed. We need to do more team style mafia.
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Vote Analysis Time!
[QUOTE]
Votes for Team 2 (11)
Ace (Team 4)
stormtemplar (Team 8)
meeple (Team 7)
BrownBear (Team 8)
johnnyspazz (Team 8)
DCLXVI (Team 9)
Votes for Team 4 (3)
DarthThienAn
Votes for Team 7 (17)
Bill Murray (Team 2)
Chezinu (Team 2)
LaXerCannon (Team 3)
bumatlarge (Team 3)
YellowInk (Team 5)
Divinek (Team 9)
Votes for Team 8 (3)
L (Team 6)
Votes for Team 9 (3)
DarthThienAn (Team 4)
/QUOTE]
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On June 23 2010 14:07 YellowInk wrote:
@ Chez re BM Are you guys really playing the same role? ^^
I was following along with Bill thinking he had a plan... yeah... Now, I'm playing as if I'm by myself. Except I'm suck voting for team 7 right now under the circumstances..
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Maybe they got two different PM's by accident %D
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On June 23 2010 14:03 L wrote:Show nested quote +Reviewing the three pages before your post, I see no reason for you conclude that the town is leaning towards those three groups. You even missed the few posts right before yours that mention team 7. I'm glad you can't read, and I'm glad you learned that larger posts take time to write. Good job!
I'mma let you finish, but I just have to say that you used this same argument against me and that was the worst argument of all time.
On June 23 2010 11:45 L wrote:
Only Yellow really bothered to take the time, and given his post's location after mine it seems like he's more trying to patch up an obviously over-inflammatory push from his ally.
Yup. I was writing a big post and it fell behind as other people posted quickly rather than the nefarious reasons you insinuated. Now, what do we call it when people hold double standards? If you were looking at this sort of thing from outside where you're sitting, what would you have to say about yourself?
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