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(I figured Scamp for med because Qatol suggested Scamp pick med earlier in the thread)
Anyways...I'm done with voting Foolishness to die. Not for earlier reasons, but simply based on these small points. I'm going to be short and sweet.
He picked [1][1]. Qatol suggested the mafia may have all picked 1 as their second number. Also, he is comp vig. We no longer need a comp vig, because we just need to kill two more mafia. We can lower our chances of randomly hitting town members. He may be under our control, but that is just because we know his role.
Now, I'm not going to vote for him just yet, because I'm aware that we control him. Just a thought. The longer the game progresses the more comp vig becomes a liability.
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Dude... Scamp's supposed to claim if we're putting him on the chopping block no? >_> At least he could've claimed who he protected each night or something. D=
But if our other target was Hobbes, I think JeeJee's death kinda confirms the Hobbes with the "fun, fun" role? I'd be pissed if Hobbes was killed though, like from the inactivity-ness.
So people we have left: Falcynn citi.zen [NyC]HoBbes Korynne Foolishness ~Opz~ Qatol Zona
Scenarios: [Keep Foolishness and CompVig hit at night] We get a mafia through lynch: We'll be down to 4T/1M in the morning best case. We'll be down to 4T/2M if we ask Foolishness not to kill anyone at night. We'll be down to 3T/2M in the morning worst case. We don't get a mafia through lynch: We'll be down to 3T/3M in the best case. We'll be down to 2T/3M in the morning worst case.
[Kill Foolishness] We get a mafia through lynch (so basically if Foolishness is mafia): We'll be down to 4T/2M in the morning. We don't get a mafia through lynch (if Foolishness is innocent): We'll be down to 3T/3M in the morning.
[Don't kill anyone] Foolishness kills mafia at night: We'll be down to 4T/2M Foolishness hits town at night: We'll be down to 3T/3M.
So basically we have to lynch a mafia right now. xD (As in the lynch Foolishness plan because he has a KP doesn't apply here)
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Day started like 2 hours ago, let's wait until the 3 hour mark and see what happens with Hobbes and Zona.
Since no one has a KP role in the day (correct me if I'm wrong since I didn't look over the roles again) we'll have to wait and see what happens with Hobbes and Zona. I doubt Hobbes is mafia from JeeJee's claims, no idea about Zona. But if Zona is mafia then we're /very/ lucky. >_>
Vengeful player also doesn't help, since that would require us killing them first...
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So yeah, basically no point figuring out who is mafia if we're going to die by modkill anyway... xD
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Better idea...
Bullet Proof should claim now...
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Uh why? So the mafia won't shoot him at night and not win?
Sounds like an excellent plan OpZ. xD
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Zona Scum Pardoner has been modkilled. [NyC]HoBbes Pro Town Meth Man has been modkilled.
With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch!
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Lmao....zona...scum...
No BP should claim so foolishness hits...but we SHOULD DEFINITELY LYNCH someone with a ONE now...
I say foolishness or Qatol (until I go look at draft pick list now)
BP should claim so we don't lynch/and Compulsive vig can hit him....Sadly we need a hit here....
BP don't claim yet...actually...We need to decide who dies today....
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Ok, so. We have: Falcynn citi.zen Korynne Foolishness ~Opz~ Qatol
2 mafia, 4 townies.
Lynch a townie: We dead, unless we compvig a mafia. Lynch a mafia: We all good for tomorrow.
So again, we probably shouldn't kill Foolishness unless we're like 90% sure he's mafia because without compvig we're dead overnight if we screw it up.
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OpZ that seriously made very little sense with the BP claiming... No one wants to die. Claiming BP is letting yourself die to lynching... no one's that stupid.
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Oh wait my bad, there's only 1 mafia left. xD
Wtf I'm fail at reading or whatever it is. Ignore my last couple lame ass posts. xP
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2. Foolishness - [1] [1] 3. Korynne - [1] [5] 4. Falcynn [1] [7] 6. ~OpZ~ - [4] [14] 10. Qatol - [6] [1] 18. citi.zen - [12] [3]
Okay here's the list. And here's the mafia numbers: [6][1], [8][1], [12][1].
If Radfield was alive right now we'd probably lynch him since his number is [10][1].xP
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Foolishness
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On May 08 2010 16:02 Korynne wrote: Ok, so. We have: Falcynn citi.zen Korynne Foolishness ~Opz~ Qatol
2 mafia, 4 townies.
Lynch a townie: We dead, unless we compvig a mafia. Lynch a mafia: We all good for tomorrow.
So again, we probably shouldn't kill Foolishness unless we're like 90% sure he's mafia because without compvig we're dead overnight if we screw it up. We got 1 mafia, 5 townies.
We mislynch, it goes to night with 1 mafia, 4 townies. Assuming all night hits go through, mafia hits someone, 1 mafia 3 townies. Comp Vig makes a night hit too. If he doesn't hit mafia, 1 mafia 2 townies.
So worse case scenario we still have another day. Unless someone's a Vigi or Jack and makes another kill somewhere, but given the claims so far that seems incredibly unlikely.
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So it's probably highly likely it's foolishness or qatol.
Actually I think it's OpZ (though I need to go check when he claimed) because he's between hobbes [4][1] and d3 [4][14] and he claimed 4 14. So he could've been 4 1 which would make him quite quite suspicious with the current scheme of mafia numbers.
Falycnn could also have been [4][1] instead of [1][7] (if he claimed after hobbes).
I'm mainly FoSing OpZ because he's really pushing for Qatol or Foolishness based on the [1] thing.
citi.zen seems okay because he picked either [12][1] or [12][3] so like it would be silly for mafia to double up on their highest number.
Me? I could've been a [1][1] I guess.
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Using compvig hits: We have 3 tries to get mafia (1/6, 1/5, 1/3)
Not using compvig hits (foolishness alive): We have 3 tries to get mafia (1/6, 1/4, 1/3)
Not using compvig hits (foolishness dead): We have 2 tries to get mafia (1/6, 1/4)
If Foolishness is mafia and we let him hit at night: We have 2 tries to get mafia (1/6, 1/3) [we can't really ask foolishness to kill himself overnight...]
If Foolishness is mafia and we don't let him hit at night: We have 2 tries to get mafia (1/6, 1/4)
-So if we don't use compvig hit, foolishness is basically dead tonight. -Not using compvig hits gives us better chances at hitting mafia, but same number of tries, but also requires foolishness to be alive after tonight (wtf scamp didn't claim xD)
So you guys can give suggestions on which setup you prefer (compvig to hit tonight or not) but I'm leaning towards hitting someone tonight, since that at least guarantees we'll have 3 instead of 2 shots at mafia.
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Lol...I'm pushing for foolishness because he's comp vig according to you and is dangerous to be left alive. And his numbers match up on the one...which isn't just the one thing...ya feel me hombre?
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No I don't feel you.
I just explained why it doesn't make a difference if we keep him alive.
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Foolishness
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On May 08 2010 16:49 Korynne wrote: No I don't feel you.
I just explained why it doesn't make a difference if we keep him alive. Game will end 1 day sooner if you keep me alive
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So for our lynch: I don't think we should look at foolishness, compvig definitely helps give us one additional try and we can always kill him tomorrow if he is mafia. I explained why I don't think by citi.zen's number he is likely to be mafia... would seem silly to purposely make mafia end up at the back of the picks... I claimed my number before Foolishness, so I should be okay for now (sure I could be the last mafia with the only non ending in 1 number but the likelihood of that happening is 1/4) Qatol is at [6][1], which is like, ok mafia could've done it to make qatol seem very innocent (with his plans and what nots, he could get a good role and pass copycat to sidesprang safely, he emphasizes the groupings) OpZ and Falcynn could be faking their numbers. Hobbes claimed before both of them, d3 claimed before OpZ so he knows exactly what range of numbers he can pick. Same situation with Falcynn, he knew he could safely pick [1][5+] or [4][1] when he gave his number.
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