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Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 07 2010 18:05 GMT
#821
On May 08 2010 03:04 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 03:03 L wrote:
Lol sorry bros.



Lol thanks bro.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
May 07 2010 18:30 GMT
#822
Well if we have a mafia medic and a mafia jack on our hands, then I guess the mafia would know for sure that he was SK, bulletproof, or vet. What I think is more likely is that the mafia didn't know what was protecting Radfield from night hits. What they knew is that they took a shot at him and it was blocked. Then he turned around and found another one of their members. I'm not sure they shot him because they knew he was SK at all, they just didn't want him doing any more mafia hunting.

I wasn't suggesting the mafia hit him because they knew he was SK - in fact they would not have done so, because of the bullet proof ability. I was wondering about Radfield's reaction afterwards - ie choosing to claim he was medic protected.

At first I wasn't even sure he even got hit (someone had suggested maybe he held off on a hit and claimed the hit just to get more credibility) - but that seems wrong. Double stacking on Bill by chance could have happened too, but again, then there was little reason to claim.

So Radfiled really did get hit by the mafia, and he killed Bill. Now, a pro-town player that gets hit would presumably announce it, so he had to say something if he wanted to try to remain undiscovered by the mafia. He could claim medic protection, veteran, or bullet-proof. All risky claims if there is someone else with that role around - and bullet proof makes people think of the SK anyway. So he went with the medic claim.

As Foolishness said before, the "right call" would have been to state ambiguously that he "took a hit".
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 07 2010 19:21 GMT
#823
On May 08 2010 03:30 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
Well if we have a mafia medic and a mafia jack on our hands, then I guess the mafia would know for sure that he was SK, bulletproof, or vet. What I think is more likely is that the mafia didn't know what was protecting Radfield from night hits. What they knew is that they took a shot at him and it was blocked. Then he turned around and found another one of their members. I'm not sure they shot him because they knew he was SK at all, they just didn't want him doing any more mafia hunting.

I wasn't suggesting the mafia hit him because they knew he was SK - in fact they would not have done so, because of the bullet proof ability. I was wondering about Radfield's reaction afterwards - ie choosing to claim he was medic protected.

At first I wasn't even sure he even got hit (someone had suggested maybe he held off on a hit and claimed the hit just to get more credibility) - but that seems wrong. Double stacking on Bill by chance could have happened too, but again, then there was little reason to claim.

So Radfiled really did get hit by the mafia, and he killed Bill. Now, a pro-town player that gets hit would presumably announce it, so he had to say something if he wanted to try to remain undiscovered by the mafia. He could claim medic protection, veteran, or bullet-proof. All risky claims if there is someone else with that role around - and bullet proof makes people think of the SK anyway. So he went with the medic claim.

As Foolishness said before, the "right call" would have been to state ambiguously that he "took a hit".

But that's exactly what I'm wondering about. What if he really WAS medic protected? Medic protection generally supercedes all other kinds except martyr, and if I were medic, he is the player I would have watched that night.

As far as the "took a hit" claim goes - yes, that is almost always the right call in this situation.
Uff Da
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
May 07 2010 19:44 GMT
#824
On May 08 2010 04:21 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 03:30 citi.zen wrote:
Well if we have a mafia medic and a mafia jack on our hands, then I guess the mafia would know for sure that he was SK, bulletproof, or vet. What I think is more likely is that the mafia didn't know what was protecting Radfield from night hits. What they knew is that they took a shot at him and it was blocked. Then he turned around and found another one of their members. I'm not sure they shot him because they knew he was SK at all, they just didn't want him doing any more mafia hunting.

I wasn't suggesting the mafia hit him because they knew he was SK - in fact they would not have done so, because of the bullet proof ability. I was wondering about Radfield's reaction afterwards - ie choosing to claim he was medic protected.

At first I wasn't even sure he even got hit (someone had suggested maybe he held off on a hit and claimed the hit just to get more credibility) - but that seems wrong. Double stacking on Bill by chance could have happened too, but again, then there was little reason to claim.

So Radfiled really did get hit by the mafia, and he killed Bill. Now, a pro-town player that gets hit would presumably announce it, so he had to say something if he wanted to try to remain undiscovered by the mafia. He could claim medic protection, veteran, or bullet-proof. All risky claims if there is someone else with that role around - and bullet proof makes people think of the SK anyway. So he went with the medic claim.

As Foolishness said before, the "right call" would have been to state ambiguously that he "took a hit".

But that's exactly what I'm wondering about. What if he really WAS medic protected? Medic protection generally supercedes all other kinds except martyr, and if I were medic, he is the player I would have watched that night.

As far as the "took a hit" claim goes - yes, that is almost always the right call in this situation.

At the same time, I feel like someone would have claimed medic at this point. Nearly everyone alive has been under heat from someone else or another (besides Hobbes, which is why he needs to die if he doesn't deliver), and from my perspective any of us could have claimed medic reasonably (i.e. Scamp has been under a lot of pressure, if he came out before day ended yesterday and said he was medic, it'd be believable because he doesn't want to die).

That's my reasoning why I said we probably don't have a medic. At any rate it's probably best for us to just assume worst case scenario in that we don't have a medic. Making a plan and hoping for a medic save along the way is not the way to go.

Yo guys, night is ~7 hours away from ending. We need a CompVig hit. If the votes so far stay the way they are it's going to be up to the CompVig's discretion to choose who to hit. And ya'll know who I want to hit.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 07 2010 20:39 GMT
#825
I don't think you should be hitting Korynne. While she has been quiet, a mafia also just pushed pretty hard to get her lynched. That doesn't necessarily mean she is innocent (the mafia could be using this as a way to keep her out of the spotlight), but I think she just merits more watching right now. We can lynch her if her activity level doesn't increase.
I think you should be hitting either Scamp or Zona (with my preference on Zona unless he speaks up).
JeeJee voted Scamp. Several times.
Citi.zen voted me.
Scamp voted Hobbes.
Does anyone else have a second choice?
If I missed a vote, it wasn't in the last 4ish pages or it wasn't bolded. So anyone feel free to correct me.
Uff Da
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
May 07 2010 20:45 GMT
#826
I will vote for Scamp. While I don't care too much for the numbers theory stuff, he was consistently, if somewhat softly defended by Darth. It seems in many posts he was trying to see "fair" but always though in the end Scamp was innocent. So why not.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 07 2010 21:19 GMT
#827
I will read over darth's and scamp's posts and reply with my choice in a bit. I don't really want to hit Zona until he's had a chance to speak since he's probably busy with his bot. =\ Hobbes has also been a bit scummy with the attacking me and defending himself when I didn't even acuse him of being slightly suspicious or lurking or anything.

Like I said I'm going to leave the hobbes+jeejee thing for now. If we have no leads, lynching jeejee tells us something about hobbes so I'm not worried about that "couple" for now.

Someone should also perhaps analyze people's responses between when darth was to be lynched and when his mafia-ness was revealed.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
May 07 2010 21:23 GMT
#828
On May 08 2010 05:39 Qatol wrote:
I don't think you should be hitting Korynne. While she has been quiet, a mafia also just pushed pretty hard to get her lynched. That doesn't necessarily mean she is innocent (the mafia could be using this as a way to keep her out of the spotlight), but I think she just merits more watching right now. We can lynch her if her activity level doesn't increase.
I think you should be hitting either Scamp or Zona (with my preference on Zona unless he speaks up).
JeeJee voted Scamp. Several times.
Citi.zen voted me.
Scamp voted Hobbes.
Does anyone else have a second choice?
If I missed a vote, it wasn't in the last 4ish pages or it wasn't bolded. So anyone feel free to correct me.

That's a good point about Korynne. Also, she claims to be green and have no role. If she were mafia with Darth, I think the mafia would have tried to push Korynne for lynch instead of Darth, since Darth would be more valuable to the mafia since he has a role. While this doesn't excuse her attitude, I guess they are notable points.

Given's Zona recent inactivity, I'm totally cool hitting him. I'm skeptical about hitting Scamp though. I'd still choose Hobbes over these two guys.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 07 2010 21:40 GMT
#829
Hmmm... Darth seems to slightly defend JeeJee as well.

I think Scamp would be a good target...

##Compvig: Scamp##

Also, no credit since the other target is essentially me. xD
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 07 2010 22:46 GMT
#830
I still don't get the reasoning toward me. I was softly defended by Darth? I don't really think much of his defense and the retraction from it. I don't even think I was under any serious heat at the time either. You guys really think that makes a case for me? As in the best case we've got going on right now?

I'm honestly amused at the lack of a case against me yet people's willingness to seriously target me.
Cheese is good for you!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 07 2010 22:49 GMT
#831
On May 08 2010 03:05 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 03:04 JeeJee wrote:
On May 08 2010 03:03 L wrote:
Lol sorry bros.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCuGqIhUaJE

Lol thanks bro.

In the embed she kind of looks like a man...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
May 08 2010 01:58 GMT
#832
Woah Radfield was the SK?!

DUN DUN DUNNNNNN
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 08 2010 02:46 GMT
#833
What the hell? No one is here?

Compvigging me is a MAJOR mistake with a capital M.

Throwing that out there last-second.
Cheese is good for you!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
May 08 2010 02:54 GMT
#834
On May 08 2010 11:46 Scamp wrote:
What the hell? No one is here?

Compvigging me is a MAJOR mistake with a capital M.

Throwing that out there last-second.

That's what I said, but I'm in a very awkward situation here.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 08 2010 03:05 GMT
#835
Ace, Hobbes hasn't posted in something like 2 days 6 hours. Zona hasn't posted in almost 2 days. Can we get a warning or something here?
Uff Da
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
May 08 2010 03:07 GMT
#836
On May 08 2010 12:05 Qatol wrote:
Ace, Hobbes hasn't posted in something like 2 days 6 hours. Zona hasn't posted in almost 2 days. Can we get a warning or something here?

I like just killing them both.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 08 2010 03:13 GMT
#837
On May 08 2010 12:05 Qatol wrote:
Ace, Hobbes hasn't posted in something like 2 days 6 hours. Zona hasn't posted in almost 2 days. Can we get a warning or something here?


Yea. Both of them have 3 hours after the Day starts to make a post.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 08 2010 03:19 GMT
#838
Night 3

Scamp (Pro Town Normal Doc) has been shot.

JeeJee(Vanilla Towny)has been shot.


With 8 alive, it is 5 to lynch!

Day 4 ends at 11:00PM ET/12:00 KST(24 hours from now)
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 08 2010 03:20 GMT
#839
Lol Jeejee. Seems fitting.

Best of luck, town.
Cheese is good for you!
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 08 2010 04:19 GMT
#840
Ok...I figured Scamp would be med -_-

I think the best way to go about picking out the mafia is to pick someone who picked one as their second number...

Seems reasonable actually...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
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