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Does foolishness always have this kind of attitude? (it doesn't sit well with me, not saying it's scummy. feels like ace, caller, bm, etc.)
This last paragraph you wrote is exactly what I was talking about. You shouldn't want to die for the benefit of the town. All these guys around here say "well this person being clean means this guy's mafia" or "he turned up red, obviously this guy's mafia as well" is useless thinking, and distracts from actually finding mafia. I've yet to play a game where we lynched someone, then made the conclusion "okay this guy's mafia" and lynched him the following day. It doesn't happen.
What do you mean you shouldn't want to die for the benefit of town? If killing me CLEARLY benefits town even though I'm townie I see no reason why this is invalid. Like I said, given that Foolishness has a good role and I claimed vanilla, it is clearly less risky for town to lynch me before him. Lynch me first: best case, we get vanilla mafia, worst case, we lose vanilla townie before getting power role mafia. Lynch Foolishness first: best case, we get power mafia, worst case, we lose power townie before killing vanilla mafia. If I was town I wouldn't want to risk killing a powerful townie based on the words of another townie especially if they claim vanilla.
All you've done is insisted that compvig is not something we have to worry about (even though I stated that it could be an issue, though at least me picking it means it couldn't have slipped to another mafia like BM's role could have).
You say we have far worse concerns than compvig being mafia...and what would those be? Considering that compvig being mafia doubles mafia's kp...
I mean you're not even actually coming out and claiming compvig after I mention it in my posts like 500 times so like, what, you're going to try and push for my lynch when you don't follow town's orders to kill a mafia?
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Right, it's okay if mafia isn't everyone else's priority in life but I'm the one being the suspect for it. >_>
Most of your posts are like 5min posts, I even went through them again afterwards to make sure. They're mostly like 1-5 lines long and are like conversational rather than analysis. I'm taking my information from zbot so it's not updated with your entire afternoon writing stuff, but I mean given that everyone is accusing you today it would be rather silly to sit back and read and not post long defenses. Though my bad on the explanation on not voting sidesprang, it was in the johnnyspazz long pots so I skimmed and didn't catch it.
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On May 07 2010 08:50 JeeJee wrote:
btw ace, i don't understand your rage. it was obvious from the day post that no invention was made, and bill just said he decided not to make an invention to prove his innocence. the day post revealed both the lack of invention and his innocence, so i'm not seeing the game-altering info?
I'm not even raging. But posting your motives for doing something after you are dead is game altering information. No one knows what other roles are in the game and BM posting that could possibly set off a reaction that wasn't previously possible.
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I mean considering BM is pretty vet, he should know better I guess? xD
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Hey hey hey....I've only read from my last post page (prior to the one before) but I notice Foolishness is insanely good at ignoring things directed at him, and good at quoting the same poster later and using him to attack someone, (he did with bm). I've quoted several posts, but I want to get to the last page before so I can consolidate it (I still remember being banned by plexa)
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On May 07 2010 09:08 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Hey hey hey....I've only read from my last post page (prior to the one before) but I notice Foolishness is insanely good at ignoring things directed at him, and good at quoting the same poster later and using him to attack someone, (he did with bm). I've quoted several posts, but I want to get to the last page before so I can consolidate it (I still remember being banned by plexa)
Perhaps I should play like you and make a claim about someone and not back it up with any evidence? And I should also not read the thread, because other people aren't important. Thanks for your input on who we should lynch, really helps us here.
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On May 07 2010 09:01 Korynne wrote:
Right, it's okay if mafia isn't everyone else's priority in life but I'm the one being the suspect for it. >_>
Most of your posts are like 5min posts, I even went through them again afterwards to make sure. They're mostly like 1-5 lines long and are like conversational rather than analysis. I'm taking my information from zbot so it's not updated with your entire afternoon writing stuff, but I mean given that everyone is accusing you today it would be rather silly to sit back and read and not post long defenses. Though my bad on the explanation on not voting sidesprang, it was in the johnnyspazz long pots so I skimmed and didn't catch it.
Hmm. really? I just looked at all my posts, and most of them are either fairly long, or multiple posts near each other. If you look at your own posting, it's about the same, maybe slightly more than my posting. And though a couple things are "conversational," it's hardly the majority of my posts. In fact, I think I put in quite a few good bits on analysis here and there: draft, Opz, johnnyspazz, analysis about several different roles, a bit on CV and inventions as well.
What are you suspect for? It was like one comment by Qatol or Radfield, there are plenty other things that you're under suspicion for; no one's really using that as the focus of their reason to accuse you.
And I posted long posts before I started getting called out - it's a matter of whether or not I had something to say. I didn't realize that I was supposed to write a daily essay for you guys. I have school making do that already, thanks.
Basically: anything you're accusing me of, Korynne, you're basically guilty of as well. So maybe Radfield or Qatol can call me out for it, but you, don't try to use it against me.
And, since I probably won't be here tonight:
##Vote Korynne
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On May 06 2010 03:48 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +Also, to be clear, I was not imagining a one time use dt kit. I meant an invention that permanently gives someone dt abilities. Show nested quote +it's a one time deal, radfield, it doesn't work like that. i just had that clarified.
Those are DT kits...I know you can read, because you were epic at confusing me like a fuck last game. Even had Citizen lynching himself....
On May 06 2010 04:17 DarthThienAn wrote:
Well the DT kit is a one time thing... I don't know if that applies to ALL inventions though.
My security camera didn't need to be permenant, just prevent action and tell who visited and prevent action.
On May 06 2010 07:39 Radfield wrote:I'd like to bring this back to our compvig hit. At this point it seems like everyone who has posts an opinion has said to hit Johnnyspazz. Personally I don't find him all that scummy, so I'd like to propose a possible second target. At first I was suspicious of Falcynn, but I checked though his history and the main thing that jumped up was that he voted second on the sidesprang lynch, so he seems slightly in the clear. But you know who does strike me as scummy? Scamp. I'm not familiar with his posting in other games, so this might be the norm, but he has accused just about everyone in this game of being mafia. Lets check out some posts Show nested quote +
I, for one, am not afraid of a mafia copycat. If we get a mafia with a day 1 lynch then they had the role anyway. And even if we lose an exceptionally powerful role we'll still know where it is. I think it might be best to push for BM or Foolish right away, the only problem is whether or not I trust Korynne. Right now I'm not sure.
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Personally, I'm wondering if there's a good reason not to lynch Foolishness right now.
This one is taken slightly out of context, but still somewhat incriminating. He followed it with: Show nested quote +
All that being said, Sidesprang still does look suspicious, and it'd be nice if he posted.
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Sounds to me like Qatol is mafia. I'll add him to my list with Falcynn.
vote: Sidesprang
Finally puts a vote on Sidesprang, AFTER a majority was reached(I think) So what do we have here, early on he pushes for a quick lynch of either BM or Foolishness, while downplaying the importance of the CopyCat. We now know that the copycat was in mafia hands. He puts a hard or soft FoS on pretty much any active poster he can: BM, Foolishness, Korynne, Falcynn, Qatol and myself. This is not an open and shut case, but I'd love for a few other people to take a close look at him. Also I am not yet recommending we switch our compvig vote. Lets stick with Johnnyspazz for now unless more people agree with me on Scamp.
##CompVig Johnnyspazz##
I said you might be mafia too...Dunno though, that was when you were posting earlier...It's a little different now...But I'm still gonna remain wary of you. Qatol is rather riding you hard...
On May 06 2010 07:03 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 06:38 Foolishness wrote:
So wait, first BM says I'm mafia and I'm going to kill him at night, then he says he's entrusting the laptop to me to find a mafia? Let's try to be more wishy-washy please. he's just trying to be 100% safe. if you were mafia-aligned, then you would stack the mafia hit and compvig hit to get past medic protection to kill him. if that is the case, then the item he gives you will end up countering your compvig hit somehow. if you are town-aligned, then you just use the item to role check someone.
Johnny Spazz calling foolishness out on foolishness being epic fail and not reading the Laptops restrictions. It was a semi decent idea by BM that got blasted by Qatol and everyone else, even though it confirmed BM, forced Foolishness to target someone else.
On May 06 2010 10:56 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 08:15 Radfield wrote:On May 06 2010 08:07 Bill Murray wrote:
i dont need to prove shit to you Bill, to avoid getting lynched you need to prove to everyone, not just Qatol, that you are pro-town. You have a very, very powerful ability, that is very deadly to the town if it's in mafia hands. Unfortunately for you, the person you passed out the phone to died the same night. This sucks for you, because it's suspicious by it's very nature. This is why tonight, you need to make an invention that is very obviously pro-town, so we can all go "phew" looks like Bill is very unlikely to be mafia. If you invent something obscure again, against the direct wishes of the town, what other option are you leaving us? Look at it from our point of view, we HAVE to be sure the inventor is on our side. The only way to be sure is if the inventor is following instructions from the towns collective judgement. How else can we be sure? This
THIS is Foolishness not claiming, or stating his intentions to follow the plan. THIS is what i'm talking about. Idea...Korynne claims to of picked CV, picked something else to have role. Korynne also is unconfirmed whether he got vanilla or not. Foolishness won't acknowledge role alignments, (but If I was mafia, I wouldn't of killed him either. I'd let him keep hitting town.)
On May 06 2010 10:54 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 10:07 Scamp wrote:
Bill Murray seems to be doing everything he can to get me killed. I think BM has gone back and forth between about 4 people so far for who he thinks is most obviously mafia. Don't worry, it'll blow over in another few hours at the current rate.
...-_- Example of Foolishness popping in and out ignoring everything.
On May 06 2010 12:08 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 08:22 Qatol wrote:On May 06 2010 08:10 citi.zen wrote:On May 06 2010 07:50 Qatol wrote:On May 06 2010 07:46 citi.zen wrote:
I do not want the discussion about names distract us from the function. Invent a gun_that_only_kills_Mafia. Or a grenade, so medic or bullet proof or vet does not stop it. Grenade is a horrible idea. We do not want anything that can kill townies. We do not want anything bomb-related because of the cell phone. The gun I can accept. Not if the name says it, right? Anyway, it should flat out kill, regardless of vet/protection status, and only kill reds. Can we agree this is better than a kit? Sorry, I totally misinterpreted. A weapon that can kill SK or mafia is fine by me. I'm okay with Bill wanting to make it detonate if that player attacks him as well. But I don't see why it can't be a gun with bulletproof piercing rounds. I guess I'm just arguing semantics though. You entire stance on this issue is extremely shaky. First you don't want a gun. Then you are OK with it, but would simply make it bullet-piercing (even though that still allows a medic-protected red to live, presumably). Then you are "ok" with the gun detonating if the attacker hits Bill - yet the whole freaking point of the gun is that it CAN ONLY KILL REDS - so if Bill is town making the gun he should have no need for it to detonate, since IT CAN'T KILL BILL ANYWAY. This is very shaky reasoning about a very simple matter, totally out of character for you Qatol.
Thank you for noticing this Citizen. He's been posting and flipping out about a gun, saying BM would lie, but we've done decided how to set the request up. BM had a good invention idea, that I think should only be passed out once. We have been ignoring the importance of proving foolishness. Korynne seems to be a good kill...But I dunno...
On May 06 2010 12:25 Zona wrote:
I don't think we have the momentum to switch the compvig vote away from johnnyspazz tonight, but still, here are some considerations for the future:
Falcynn doesn't have many posts, and most of his statements are just questions about the game or agreement with plans others have posted. His excuse is that he's working on a film-making contest and thus is busy. The only interesting thing of note is his offer to sacrifice himself so that the alignment cop could use him to determine sanity, but nothing has come of that.
Almost everyone but Foolishness himself now acknowledges that he's the compulsive vig. We'll see tonight whether or not the compulsive vig will follow the town's direction. A lot of his early posts include doubts about the public roleclaims during the phase when most of the town was talking about them. Pretty abrasive too, but he's been like that in previous games. We'll learn more when we see the comp vig results.
Among the players still living Jeejee has few posts. He thinks he knows Hobbes's role as he was unable to get what he picked, and first expected something from it "he sure isn't doing shit with it" but then changed his mind:
"i probably know hobbes' role now, of course that's still pending whether others have lied but the way the events have unfolded so far, the claims seem legit. i think i probably understand hobbes' strategy now and it kind of makes sense.. we shall see.
atm i am leaning towards hobbes being townie so that's where we stand on that issue."
Actually given this statement I think it's JeeJee's job to keep an eye on Hobbes. And Hobbes should be thinking from his end of things if what JeeJee's saying adds up.
Scamp has been pretty accusative all game. He's noted Falcynn and Qatol as mafia on his "list" and at one point said "Personally, I'm wondering if there's a good reason not to lynch Foolishness right now." But he's also taken a lot of contrary opinions to the town concensus which I think in itself is a good thing, as we should be open to various possibilities and not just focus on one interpretation of things. One interesting thing that occurred earlier in the game is Qatol's insistence that Scamp pick doctor.
Opz hasn't said much recently...neither has Korynne, who was pretty active early on.
Today was the day of my finals. Sorry. I was busy last night and earlier today. I'm out of school now tho. =D
(Noticing I'm becoming a suspect...just reached the last page...)
On May 06 2010 12:34 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 12:08 citi.zen wrote:On May 06 2010 08:22 Qatol wrote:On May 06 2010 08:10 citi.zen wrote:On May 06 2010 07:50 Qatol wrote:On May 06 2010 07:46 citi.zen wrote:
I do not want the discussion about names distract us from the function. Invent a gun_that_only_kills_Mafia. Or a grenade, so medic or bullet proof or vet does not stop it. Grenade is a horrible idea. We do not want anything that can kill townies. We do not want anything bomb-related because of the cell phone. The gun I can accept. Not if the name says it, right? Anyway, it should flat out kill, regardless of vet/protection status, and only kill reds. Can we agree this is better than a kit? Sorry, I totally misinterpreted. A weapon that can kill SK or mafia is fine by me. I'm okay with Bill wanting to make it detonate if that player attacks him as well. But I don't see why it can't be a gun with bulletproof piercing rounds. I guess I'm just arguing semantics though. You entire stance on this issue is extremely shaky. First you don't want a gun. Then you are OK with it, but would simply make it bullet-piercing (even though that still allows a medic-protected red to live, presumably). Then you are "ok" with the gun detonating if the attacker hits Bill - yet the whole freaking point of the gun is that it CAN ONLY KILL REDS - so if Bill is town making the gun he should have no need for it to detonate, since IT CAN'T KILL BILL ANYWAY. This is very shaky reasoning about a very simple matter, totally out of character for you Qatol. The original gun we were talking about could kill innocents. I hadn't thought of a gun that cannot kill innocents until someone else had brought it up. I'm okay with a gun that can't kill townies. Bill still has to give the gun to someone else to use. While it can't shoot him, he is giving it to someone we basically know has KP (though he hasn't acknowledged it). Thus he wants it to be able to detonate if that player shoots him even through other means. This idea also protects him in the future if he happened to give a gun to the mafia because if the mafia hit him, the gun blows up one of their members.
No the original gun idea COULD ONLY KILL REDS. It's on a page in the 20 - 28 range. You attacked it immediately acting as if it could kill town or red. Trust me, I've just red the argument...
On May 06 2010 12:50 citi.zen wrote:I actually like JeeJee's pay in this game. First time for everything I guess. Good suggestions on invention, calling BS when he sees it, not bad. Here's a good example on the ongoing invention fiasco, where Qatol seems to keep raising half-baked objections: Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 05:42 JeeJee wrote:On May 06 2010 04:53 Qatol wrote:On May 06 2010 04:47 citi.zen wrote:On May 06 2010 04:15 Qatol wrote:On May 06 2010 04:08 citi.zen wrote:On May 06 2010 03:06 JeeJee wrote:On May 05 2010 23:34 Radfield wrote:I have to disagree with you Citizen, sidesprang was lynched because several things pointed to him being the mafia copycat. The only other real option was him being a very bad townie. But moving on. JeeJee has information right now that pretty much no one else does. i didn't go for copycat so presumably we have some liars up in here
either that or hobbes is mafia
for the role that he is (or should be), he sure isn't doing shit with it.
then again neither is sidesprang so i'm at a loss here Now that sidesprang is gone, JeeJee is claiming that he tried for a role and failed to get it. Which means that someone above him has his role. He also is claiming that whoever that person is, is failing to use it in a pro-town manner. I've looked through the roles, and I really can't figure out which role he could be talking about though. DayVig is the only one that seems likely. As far as who might have the role? In my mind the options are Opz, Falcynn or Hobbes. Bm and Foolishness have inventor and CV, if Korynne was lying about her pick then Foolishness would have outted her, Qatol is almost certainly telling the truth about trying for CopyCat, and everyone else is dead. Another possibility is that Foolishness and Korynne are both mafia, but I think this unlikely. So JeeJee, if you truly think that whoever took your role is anti-town, then you should role claim, because you will likely lead us to a mafia. However, I leave the final judgement up to you, no point in outing a pro-town player's role. you are correct, i probably know hobbes' role now, of course that's still pending whether others have lied but the way the events have unfolded so far, the claims seem legit. i think i probably understand hobbes' strategy now and it kind of makes sense.. we shall see. atm i am leaning towards hobbes being townie so that's where we stand on that issue. what's the plan with inventions this night? i'm still leaning towards alignment kits. maybe you can get creative and get a gun with special bullets .. if you hit a mafia, they die, if you hit a townie, nothing happens. its like an alignment kit with bullets, whooo =) I love the invention suggestion. How can this harm the town? Swift justice + lasting info. Call it... the silver bullet gun. DT kit v. 2.0. Easy. Do you trust Bill not to make a regular gun but have the same name? How about he makes another one after that? And then the mafia all fire their guns the same night. This is your strangest comment yet Qatol. If you do not trust Bill this entire discussion is worthless. It makes no difference if you ask him to make invention X or Y - if he works for the mafia he will make what he wants or change the properties of the invention how he wants. I don't get it. Actually, it makes perfect sense. The thing is, if Bill is working for the mafia, he will want to give out as many inventions as he possibly can before we catch him. To do that, he has to give out inventions which seem to be helping the town when they will actually help the mafia in the long run. If we are asking him to give out guns, what is to stop him from giving out his "guns" to mafia members and either claim that they went to people who just died or just say they went to the mafia members? Then the mafia can just go on a shooting spree in a few nights and close out the game. this doesn't make sense if he claims the gun went to a mafia and thats why it hasn't been used, then he should call out said mafia and we lynch him, lol Well said, no idea how Qatol missed that one too.
Glad to know a few people caught it also...Qatol is missing a lot...-_-
On May 06 2010 12:55 Falcynn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 12:25 Zona wrote:
Falcynn doesn't have many posts, and most of his statements are just questions about the game or agreement with plans others have posted. His excuse is that he's working on a film-making contest and thus is busy. The only interesting thing of note is his offer to sacrifice himself so that the alignment cop could use him to determine sanity, but nothing has come of that.
I'm actually done with the contest, that was on Friday/Saturday, I was only using that reason for why I missed the role claims. My activity here is mostly due to the fact that I usually don't have much to contribute other than agreeing with others =/ In flamewheel's game (mafia XXII) I was criticized for not saying much and was told that even if all I do is agree with others, then at least say so as that appears less scummy and helps the town by knowing where the townies stand. So even though I usually don't have anything new to add to any discussions, I figured I should at least take the advice from last game and get involved with the discussions, even if all I do is agree with people. Anyways, I'm going to go ahead and just say (even if it makes me seem scummy) that I agree with lynching BM or calling for him to be CV'd if he makes some other obscure item that goes against what all the other townies have said. The gun that only kills mafia sounds like a great idea, but really, as long as BM invents something that shows he's at least listening to us rather than just taking things in his own hands would do a great deal to make him less suspicious. Right now, it seems BM is doing a good job (probably not intentionally, but that's beside the point) in dividing the town and distracting us.
How many "Liqui-" Gazette threads have you made? And you usually only agree, but are beyond epic at detective work....Something's rotten here.
On May 06 2010 13:03 Zona wrote:
Actually the more I think about it the more I like the gunpowder detection kit idea. The tracker role is able to see the serial killer when the serial killer goes out on the kill, so there is a way for the serial killer to be detected - as long as functionality doesn't depend on the serial killer's alignment itself. A gunpowder detection kit will detect not based on alignment, but ability to kill - so I'm expecting that it would be able to detect the serial killer's guns.
A gunpowder detection kit - that's what I suggest the inventor invent.
MY OTHER IDEA...
God, I should of been inventor...Lol Or at least a similar invention to mine earlier.
I dunno, not very much content, just highlighting and making some points on some posts I find somewhat important. Qatol is kinda missing a lot of facts, Zona isn't posting much, Qatol is ALIVE (?!), Zona is ALIVE (?!?!?). Sry but some just doesn't make sense. (Also, Zona, you made a post a while back I dunno if I quoted it, but I remember I liked it...pretty sure you are notched pro town, i just don't feel like rereading again...I'm tired)
On May 06 2010 19:09 Radfield wrote:I have been shot at and saved by the medic. Good work medic. Likely scenario:Foolishness kills Jspazz, Mafia shoot at me, SK kills Bill Murray. If you think about it, BM was a bigger threat to the SK then anyone else in the game. Considering that the only way the SK can get found is either the tracker or BM's inventions. Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 15:50 Bill Murray wrote:
good game guys. i was going to not invent anything as if i was a mafia i'd obviously invent something and give it to the mafia. by way of not inventing anything, i was proving to you all i was innocent.
i hope you all win. Wow, the likelihood of us lynching you for this move was decently high... oh well
How would you know who shot at you? Sk could have...
The mafia and SK coulda stacked on BM. Seems nice to claim you got hit. Qatol not getting his again...This is kinda ridiculous.
On May 06 2010 03:13 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2010 23:14 citi.zen wrote:
Sidersprang wasn't lynched because he was terribly suspect, but because he didn't really reply + we thought we might get more info on other people from lynching him. We got lucky with our lynch, which is great, but remember the mafia KP is the same whatever happens.
For tonight, I still like alignment kits as our invention - the chance of hitting a red by shooting into the crowd are now even lower. Alternatively - what do we think of making some meth-bomb-like item which would not kill all visitors, only the shooter? If enough townies have those the reds eventually kill themselves.
I need to review people's posts relative to Sidersprang. I can't believe I missed this earlier. No bombs please. I don't trust that day 1 cell phone not to be a detonator. Please let's just stick with something that prevents hits. We are losing town members too fast. I like the security camera/trip wire idea suggested earlier if ace allows it (prevents the hit and shows you your attacker). Otherwise, just something that turns a player into a veteran would be quite useful.
Thank you for your appreciation of my idea.
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Radfield
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Does foolishness always have this kind of attitude? (it doesn't sit well with me, not saying it's scummy. feels like ace, caller, bm, etc.)
I agree, the cast majority of Foolishness' posts come across with a very aggressive tone. That's more metagame than anything pertinent though.
@Darth
Darth, let me be clear, I don't have a solid case against you like I did against Sidesprang. Here is why you strike me as scummy. If you're town you'll hopefully understand my reasoning, if you're mafia you'll know where you went wrong. Some of these points are stronger than others, none of them make any kind of case against you on their own.
You missed the first vote, so did many people, but either way this is not a good sign.
You contributed a lot early on when we weren't discussing mafia at all, and then your activity level plummeted once we got around to lynching and CVing.
You point out a lot of obvious stuff in your early posts. You also do a lot of agreeing without a lot of adding your own suggestions. Lots of 'so what do we do next team', 'lets get a plan'
You call out amnesia and Jspazz as scummy, both flip town.(again, none of these on their own are indicative of mafia on their own)
You did NOT vote for Sidesprang.
you're "inclined to think Scamp is town". And then THREE minutes later you waffle on it after a nothing comment by JSpazz
On May 06 2010 11:53 DarthThienAn wrote:
But Radfield brings up a really good point - multiple accusations and trying to stir up a kill seems a little scummy. BUT. If what BM says is true about last game, then that clears Scamp. Not to mention that the mass finger pointing seems a little TOO much for mafia. Mafia would try to lay low right? That or try to be all goodie goodie town town. I'm inclined to think Scamp is town.
On May 06 2010 11:53 johnnyspazz wrote:
see, that's what scamp wants you to think so he can skate by
On May 06 2010 11:50 DarthThienAn wrote:
O_o. That simple sentence makes me really confused about Scamp T_T...
You're more recent posts are not in the Zbot and I don't feel like searching for more. These in a nutshell are why I think you're scum. Because you've talked so much, we would gain a lot of info from you flipping red. Also, the more I look through you're posts the scummier you look...
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On May 07 2010 07:57 Ace wrote:
By the way, Bill Murray you'll be banned from future games for posting game relevant information after death. You should have known to keep your mouth shut.
We would of none this anyway...But bleh....he shouldn't of said it...
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On May 07 2010 08:18 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 08:07 Radfield wrote:
We only have a few hours left till lynch time, so it's time to hone in on people. At this point we have several different routes to go, and several different suspects. The key in my mind, is lynching someone who gives us info towards aiming our CV hit. So if you're going to propose to lynch someone, I'd like to know who you're going to vote for the CV hit if they flop red or green.
I'll reiterate my current stance: Lynch Darth, if red CV scamp, if green CV JeeJee. The reason being, I think one of Darth and JeeJee are mafia, so if not Darth then JeeJee. And if Darth is red, then we follow up with our second most suspicious person Scamp.
If we lynch Korynne, what do we do if she turns up green? CV Foolishness? Not likely.
If she turns up red who do we CV? Darth? JeeJee? Scamp?
I'd like to hear other peoples thoughts along this line of thinking. I'd also love to hear what Zona has to say. With 12 in the game we need 7 to lynch. We need to learn from our lynchings, I'm not saying my plan is the best, but I just want everyone to think in terms of a long-term plan. So don't bother criticizing my Darth plan, just come up with a better one.
Also, if we don't get a mafia tonight, we are basically forced to lynch Foolishness tomorrow in an effort to buy time. We don't need to discuss this yet, but lets keep it in mind.
Fine, I'll bite. I agree that he is suspicious and we need to lynch someone right now. ##Vote: DarThienAn##Though citi.zen never ceases to amaze me with his ability to come out of nowhere and vote. I want to try something out tonight. ##CompVig: citi.zen##This is just a theory, but I think he is the serial killer. Why? Well go back and look at his discussion of inventions. He specifically emphasizes inventions that not only the town, but the SK would also be immune to (immune to alignment checks, guns that can only kill MAFIA not guns that CANNOT KILL INNOCENTS) Finally, I'm hoping that the SK will work with us tonight (and they very well might if I'm off base on this). In that case, I'd like them to hit either Scamp or JeeJee based on how this lynch comes out.
What? -_- Comp Vig should not hit my good buddy Citizen. I'd miss him mucho...He points out Qatol's mistakes. Would make sense for Qatol to want him dead. I PROPOSE QATOL IS SK.
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I wasn't saying it was a good reason for lynching you. It was after my vote. it was more for, okay, Radfield isn't lynching a clear townie.
I didn't say I'm not suspicious looking, everyone seems to be band-wagoning on me anyway. I don't see why someone inactive can't call someone else out. If someone accuses me of being scummy I can't call them scummy in return?
If you think I'm suspicious vote for me, okay. But to say I can't call you out against stuff that seems a bit of a stretch.
I see we're all bandwagoning on this I won't be here tonight so I'll vote for Korynne thing...
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On May 07 2010 08:48 Radfield wrote:
There is flaw in our plan Qatol. By putting down all these follow up names(Scamp, Citizen, JeeJee) it's likely they just won't vote for Darth. Hobbes has stated he's gone for the night.
That means to get 7 we need Zona, Opz, Falcynn(where did you go????) and Foolishness to all vote in favor of Darth. If Darth IS mafia and one of those 4 are mafia, then they can stop the vote from going through. However, there is the chance that someone may be Floridian too, which could push us over.
I propose that if Scamp, Citizen or JeeJee vote for Darth, then we hold off on voting them off the island. Prove your pro-townness and vote off Darth!
Voting Darth doesn't prove my pro townness...remember Darth wants me dead.
-_-
So if I'm mafia, and he's mafia, and he's drawing attention to me...but wait...if he's town and I'm mafia/town it makes me more suspicious?! OMG!! What do I do gais!!!?
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Don't have a tone of time, but I think Radfield is right actually.
##vote DarthThienAn##
Qatol, thanks. You are making me feel better about arguing against you. I never wanted an invention that would keep the SK safe. I wanted something better than the DT kit. I liked JeeJee's proposal of a gun that would not kill townies. You know this. Keep it up though.
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On May 07 2010 08:22 Radfield wrote:
The thing with Foolishness is, it doesn't really matter if he's town or mafia aligned. At some point his CV hits will become a dangerous detriment to the town and we'll have to lynch him just to stay alive. We also have to lynch him before it becomes possible for him and the mafia to make a double hit and gain a huge advantage.
Other than that we keep him alive for the extra kills until we're down to one mafia, then we lynch him. There's just no reason to have a CV with only one mafia around.
or let him be mod killed for not killing...(Is that a bannable mod kill?!)
We could just use that to our benefit....Ya dig?
On May 07 2010 09:01 Korynne wrote:
Right, it's okay if mafia isn't everyone else's priority in life but I'm the one being the suspect for it. >_>
Most of your posts are like 5min posts, I even went through them again afterwards to make sure. They're mostly like 1-5 lines long and are like conversational rather than analysis. I'm taking my information from zbot so it's not updated with your entire afternoon writing stuff, but I mean given that everyone is accusing you today it would be rather silly to sit back and read and not post long defenses. Though my bad on the explanation on not voting sidesprang, it was in the johnnyspazz long pots so I skimmed and didn't catch it.
hey hey hey...No...People have lied before...
-___-...I just wish my life wasn't this sad and that I'd actually be lieing...
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 07 2010 10:00 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 08:48 Radfield wrote:
There is flaw in our plan Qatol. By putting down all these follow up names(Scamp, Citizen, JeeJee) it's likely they just won't vote for Darth. Hobbes has stated he's gone for the night.
That means to get 7 we need Zona, Opz, Falcynn(where did you go????) and Foolishness to all vote in favor of Darth. If Darth IS mafia and one of those 4 are mafia, then they can stop the vote from going through. However, there is the chance that someone may be Floridian too, which could push us over.
I propose that if Scamp, Citizen or JeeJee vote for Darth, then we hold off on voting them off the island. Prove your pro-townness and vote off Darth! Voting Darth doesn't prove my pro townness...remember Darth wants me dead. -_- So if I'm mafia, and he's mafia, and he's drawing attention to me...but wait...if he's town and I'm mafia/town it makes me more suspicious?! OMG!! What do I do gais!!!?
That part wasn't directed at you Opz. I assume you will vote for Darth because it makes sense to you. I don't really suspect you much right now.
The pro-townness part was for those people who I most suspect are mafia.
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On May 07 2010 09:03 Korynne wrote:
I mean considering BM is pretty vet, he should know better I guess? xD
And this is just funny. FYI - in Bill's first game he was a DT and posted after death the results of his check. He's not a vet and has never been well regarded by anyone. On the contrary, Ace previously vouched he'd ban him from all his future games.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 07 2010 10:02 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 08:22 Radfield wrote:
The thing with Foolishness is, it doesn't really matter if he's town or mafia aligned. At some point his CV hits will become a dangerous detriment to the town and we'll have to lynch him just to stay alive. We also have to lynch him before it becomes possible for him and the mafia to make a double hit and gain a huge advantage.
Other than that we keep him alive for the extra kills until we're down to one mafia, then we lynch him. There's just no reason to have a CV with only one mafia around. or let him be mod killed for not killing...(Is that a bannable mod kill?!) We could just use that to our benefit....Ya dig?
That's actually not a bad idea, although it really depends on the situation. There may be a time when we simply can't risk him being mafia and getting off a double kill.
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On May 07 2010 09:13 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 09:08 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Hey hey hey....I've only read from my last post page (prior to the one before) but I notice Foolishness is insanely good at ignoring things directed at him, and good at quoting the same poster later and using him to attack someone, (he did with bm). I've quoted several posts, but I want to get to the last page before so I can consolidate it (I still remember being banned by plexa) Perhaps I should play like you and make a claim about someone and not back it up with any evidence? And I should also not read the thread, because other people aren't important. Thanks for your input on who we should lynch, really helps us here. Maybe you should read my post where I say I wasn't done yet....?
Or how about where I said I was making a bigger post?
Or how about how I was reading the thread?
Hi? Did you miss all that? I was actually talking about radfields questioning of you, and you ignoring it, then two pages later quoting radfield and saying "This."
Oh...I believe my post of notes has that in it...Like I said it would...Hi Foolishness. Quit your bitching.
On May 07 2010 10:03 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 10:00 ~OpZ~ wrote:On May 07 2010 08:48 Radfield wrote:
There is flaw in our plan Qatol. By putting down all these follow up names(Scamp, Citizen, JeeJee) it's likely they just won't vote for Darth. Hobbes has stated he's gone for the night.
That means to get 7 we need Zona, Opz, Falcynn(where did you go????) and Foolishness to all vote in favor of Darth. If Darth IS mafia and one of those 4 are mafia, then they can stop the vote from going through. However, there is the chance that someone may be Floridian too, which could push us over.
I propose that if Scamp, Citizen or JeeJee vote for Darth, then we hold off on voting them off the island. Prove your pro-townness and vote off Darth! Voting Darth doesn't prove my pro townness...remember Darth wants me dead. -_- So if I'm mafia, and he's mafia, and he's drawing attention to me...but wait...if he's town and I'm mafia/town it makes me more suspicious?! OMG!! What do I do gais!!!? That part wasn't directed at you Opz. I assume you will vote for Darth because it makes sense to you. I don't really suspect you much right now. The pro-townness part was for those people who I most suspect are mafia.
Lol...Well if I voted for Korynne, I'd be supporting the guy who wants me dead...But the guy who wants me dead is either town or mafia...I'm town, so if he's town, I shouldn't want him dead, and I shouldn't think he's mafia just because he wants me dead.
Darth, I really don't know what you are...I still have some time unless a majority has been reached I think...
On May 07 2010 10:05 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 10:02 ~OpZ~ wrote:On May 07 2010 08:22 Radfield wrote:
The thing with Foolishness is, it doesn't really matter if he's town or mafia aligned. At some point his CV hits will become a dangerous detriment to the town and we'll have to lynch him just to stay alive. We also have to lynch him before it becomes possible for him and the mafia to make a double hit and gain a huge advantage.
Other than that we keep him alive for the extra kills until we're down to one mafia, then we lynch him. There's just no reason to have a CV with only one mafia around. or let him be mod killed for not killing...(Is that a bannable mod kill?!) We could just use that to our benefit....Ya dig? That's actually not a bad idea, although it really depends on the situation. There may be a time when we simply can't risk him being mafia and getting off a double kill.
I have good idea's some games...
Notice my invention idea's have been praised. I'm actually trying to consider ways to balance them. Mine was ambiguous. Anyone visiting was revealed + action cancelled. Bill coulda added it must be used the night it was received without telling us, and then said the security camera was a dt check or something -_-...seriously I wish I was inventor now...Too bad it's gone.
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Foolishness
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It's not worth my time to respond to you.
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