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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
Feels like at least one of you three is like omg yay other people are suspecting a townie gogogo bandwagon! | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I'll reiterate my current stance: Lynch Darth, if red CV scamp, if green CV JeeJee. The reason being, I think one of Darth and JeeJee are mafia, so if not Darth then JeeJee. And if Darth is red, then we follow up with our second most suspicious person Scamp. If we lynch Korynne, what do we do if she turns up green? CV Foolishness? Not likely. If she turns up red who do we CV? Darth? JeeJee? Scamp? I'd like to hear other peoples thoughts along this line of thinking. I'd also love to hear what Zona has to say. With 12 in the game we need 7 to lynch. We need to learn from our lynchings, I'm not saying my plan is the best, but I just want everyone to think in terms of a long-term plan. So don't bother criticizing my Darth plan, just come up with a better one. Also, if we don't get a mafia tonight, we are basically forced to lynch Foolishness tomorrow in an effort to buy time. We don't need to discuss this yet, but lets keep it in mind. | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On May 07 2010 07:57 Ace wrote: By the way, Bill Murray you'll be banned from future games for posting game relevant information after death. You should have known to keep your mouth shut. ROFL - Bill would NEVER do such a thang... | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
Also, he basically jumps on the idea of lynching me for a nonsensical reason. (Yes, he suspected me before probably but he votes for me after he's like half-ass analysis you're not responding to my question lynch, even though earlier #1 I've stated I was going to analyse people later when I got home, #2 Radfield asked me to analyze people, #3 given that I started on the top of the list and went down it wasn't likely I was addressing what he said unless I actually said, oh btw, this also pertains to Foolishness' post) I haven't confirmed what Radfield said but it seems more reasonable than lynching me. Like I said, when I flip town, it doesn't really say Foolishness is mafia or not because really I'm just saying he's compvig which he hasn't confirmed or denied. Likewise, if citi.zen is town there's no way he knows whether I'm mafia so it's not like him accusing me a lot clears him or pegs him as mafia. I'd hit Hobbes or Foolishness if I flop town though. Giving them plenty of time to defend and respond of course. But it seems like this sudden omg vote Korynne is a bit weird. (citi.zen's always been like let's vote Korynne so meh) | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 07 2010 08:07 Radfield wrote: We only have a few hours left till lynch time, so it's time to hone in on people. At this point we have several different routes to go, and several different suspects. The key in my mind, is lynching someone who gives us info towards aiming our CV hit. So if you're going to propose to lynch someone, I'd like to know who you're going to vote for the CV hit if they flop red or green. I'll reiterate my current stance: Lynch Darth, if red CV scamp, if green CV JeeJee. The reason being, I think one of Darth and JeeJee are mafia, so if not Darth then JeeJee. And if Darth is red, then we follow up with our second most suspicious person Scamp. If we lynch Korynne, what do we do if she turns up green? CV Foolishness? Not likely. If she turns up red who do we CV? Darth? JeeJee? Scamp? I'd like to hear other peoples thoughts along this line of thinking. I'd also love to hear what Zona has to say. With 12 in the game we need 7 to lynch. We need to learn from our lynchings, I'm not saying my plan is the best, but I just want everyone to think in terms of a long-term plan. So don't bother criticizing my Darth plan, just come up with a better one. Also, if we don't get a mafia tonight, we are basically forced to lynch Foolishness tomorrow in an effort to buy time. We don't need to discuss this yet, but lets keep it in mind. Fine, I'll bite. I agree that he is suspicious and we need to lynch someone right now. ##Vote: DarThienAn## Though citi.zen never ceases to amaze me with his ability to come out of nowhere and vote. I want to try something out tonight. ##CompVig: citi.zen## This is just a theory, but I think he is the serial killer. Why? Well go back and look at his discussion of inventions. He specifically emphasizes inventions that not only the town, but the SK would also be immune to (immune to alignment checks, guns that can only kill MAFIA not guns that CANNOT KILL INNOCENTS) Finally, I'm hoping that the SK will work with us tonight (and they very well might if I'm off base on this). In that case, I'd like them to hit either Scamp or JeeJee based on how this lynch comes out. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Other than that we keep him alive for the extra kills until we're down to one mafia, then we lynch him. There's just no reason to have a CV with only one mafia around. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 07 2010 08:18 Qatol wrote: Fine, I'll bite. I agree that he is suspicious and we need to lynch someone right now. ##Vote: DarThienAn## Though citi.zen never ceases to amaze me with his ability to come out of nowhere and vote. I want to try something out tonight. ##CompVig: citi.zen## This is just a theory, but I think he is the serial killer. Why? Well go back and look at his discussion of inventions. He specifically emphasizes inventions that not only the town, but the SK would also be immune to (immune to alignment checks, guns that can only kill MAFIA not guns that CANNOT KILL INNOCENTS) Finally, I'm hoping that the SK will work with us tonight (and they very well might if I'm off base on this). In that case, I'd like them to hit either Scamp or JeeJee based on how this lynch comes out. I like this plan, although there is no reason to vote on the compvig just yet. We can see how the lynch turns out first. I've already voted, but in an effort to spur things along ##Vote DarthTheinAn## | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
##Vote: DarThienAn## Citi.zen is on my slightly suspicious radar, I definitely want to figure out what is going on with Foolishness first before deciding on whether to vote for citizen. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On May 07 2010 08:03 Korynne wrote: There wasn't much information on Hobbes... you go do one on Hobbes and tell me what insightful information you find. >_> Oh right, let's quote the smaller of the analyses I do... I was not responding to your post, I was responding to Radfield being like you inactive and who you think is mafia. And me being like k imma post analysis later. It was more of a response to your analysis in general, I wasn't trying to specifically point out one or the other, that was just the most recent one at the time of writing. And yeah, if it was actually up to me, I'd lynch Hobbes instantly over you. He hasn't contributed anything, I don't care if he has a "fun fun role" if he doesn't use it (JeeJee's skepticism about it is good enough). He's been ignored all game by everyone, and everyone's assuming he's got his "fun fun role" which is town aligned. I don't buy it at all. Even now he just popped in with a quickie to explain his actions. It's hardly any different from what sidesprang did yesterday. The reason I'm voting you over him right now is because he has a chance (small in my opinion) of coming through for the town. It all depends on his role, but if he comes out tomorrow with information then I can't complain (actually, I probably will, but we'll leave it for tomorrow). If his activity continues into tomorrow he should be lynched, no questions asked. I've learned more about Amnesia this game than I have about him. On May 07 2010 08:03 Korynne wrote: I'm assuming this is the post you want me to reply to (if not redirect me to the post you want me to reply to). "pretty standard mafia move"s are pretty terrible moves for mafia to make since that would make them seem mafia no? My last game I was active the whole way through. First game I kinda dropped off at the end as well cuz it was like blargh...we don't really have anything to go on. I felt the same here, it was like omg planz cool cool and then like, oh shit, plans didn't work out so well... and not really sure where to proceed. It's not so much a fine just kill me attitude as like a, well you can kill me if you need to, to prove that BM/Foolishness is mafia when it comes to that. Because I feel like we don't have a whole lot of checks to throw around so if there was a situation where if I was telling the truth then we are pretty sure about who of them is mafia, then killing me (vanilla townie) then them (power role mafia) seems like a good idea since it's like, 1 for 1, and I'm vanilla and killing me first would be like making sure me as a mafia doesn't lead you to killing a town aligned power role. This last paragraph you wrote is exactly what I was talking about. You shouldn't want to die for the benefit of the town. All these guys around here say "well this person being clean means this guy's mafia" or "he turned up red, obviously this guy's mafia as well" is useless thinking, and distracts from actually finding mafia. I've yet to play a game where we lynched someone, then made the conclusion "okay this guy's mafia" and lynched him the following day. It doesn't happen. I vote for people because I think they are mafia based on their attitude. Straight up. If you want to make the appeal that you dying could show that someone else is mafia, convince the rest of the people here, but I doubt any action will actually result. On May 07 2010 08:07 Radfield wrote: Also, if we don't get a mafia tonight, we are basically forced to lynch Foolishness tomorrow in an effort to buy time. We don't need to discuss this yet, but lets keep it in mind. You got lots of explaining to do with this, but as you said it can wait until tomorrow since there are more pertinent things. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 07 2010 08:00 Qatol wrote: Right, I was wondering about that one actually. I assume you're talking about him telling us he decided not to make an invention? Yes partially. I mean the Day post missing an invention made that obvious, but telling everyone why after was just ridiculous. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On May 07 2010 08:28 Ace wrote: Yes partially. I mean the Day post missing an invention made that obvious, but telling everyone why after was just ridiculous. All games or games by you? Or a moderation? | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On May 07 2010 08:26 Qatol wrote: Look, Foolishness, Hobbes, and citi.zen. The lynch on Darth just gives us more information than a lynch on Korynne does. We need to just put SOMETHING together. I honestly think that Scamp is more suspicious, but I agree with Radfield that there is something to gain from this lynch. Please change your votes. We can't afford another no lynch. Nothing is going to get put together. That's never the case. I don't think we can draw conclusions either way. We should be hunting based on attitude, there's plenty to go by, not by trying to figure out who's death gives us the most information. I would rather kill someone no matter who (not myself though) than have a no lynch. If you're short majority near time I will gladly change. We can't afford not lynching someone. | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
Didn't vote for sidesprang or make any mention of it. Prefered killing spazz to JeeJee. Seems reasonably scummy to vote for. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Day 3 vote count - With 12 alive it is 7 to lynch! DarthTheinAn(3) Radfield Qatol Korynne Korynne(3) Foolishness [NyC]HoBbes citizen Day ends in 3.5 hours @ 11:00 PM ET/12:00 KST | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 07 2010 08:32 Foolishness wrote: Nothing is going to get put together. That's never the case. I don't think we can draw conclusions either way. We should be hunting based on attitude, there's plenty to go by, not by trying to figure out who's death gives us the most information. I would rather kill someone no matter who (not myself though) than have a no lynch. If you're short majority near time I will gladly change. We can't afford not lynching someone. That isn't what I meant. Sorry, I meant put together enough votes to get a lynch. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
That means to get 7 we need Zona, Opz, Falcynn(where did you go????) and Foolishness to all vote in favor of Darth. If Darth IS mafia and one of those 4 are mafia, then they can stop the vote from going through. However, there is the chance that someone may be Floridian too, which could push us over. I propose that if Scamp, Citizen or JeeJee vote for Darth, then we hold off on voting them off the island. Prove your pro-townness and vote off Darth! | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On May 07 2010 07:01 Korynne wrote: citi.zen Thinks Zona is town, and less sure but thinks Qatol is town too. Thinks Foolishness and Korynne are shifty. In defence of what citi.zen says about: If you read my last two games I always try to think about the other side. I think I got carried away with like omg qatol has an awesome plan let's add to it. This game clearly has more "vets" (Qatol seems like one of them) than the other games I've played so purposely slipping up here seems like a bad idea on my part. Stuff about BM's invention and town circles etc etc Proposes an alignment and not role detective kit. Replies to Radfield asking him if he will lynch sidesprang with yes, information is better than no information. Proposes saving the dayvig kill. Apparently [continues] "to like Korynne as a red" xD 4 vanilla claimants and one must be lying if JeeJee is telling the truth (sidesprang ended up being the guy lying here) Still voting for hitting Korynne... xD Again, no dayvig plz. Points out johnnyspazz missed him in the voted for sidesprang count. Buncha stuff about invention stuffs... Argues with Qatol about invention stuffs... Likes JeeJee's play. Basically back and forth with Qatol, accusing Korynne in between. xD Conclusion: Likes to accuse me a lot, but I can see how I've been playing not so well this game. xD Doesn't seem to give /too/ much information on why I should be lynched, just slightly prefered and FoS on me and Foolishness from the start. Verdict: Slightly suspicious. I don't like the focus on inventions and quibbling with Qatol, seems like fake activity almost. Also Darth that is poor reasoning. Animosity towards another player when you are town does not indicate whether someone is mafia. I agree I've played rather poorly this game in terms of being lazy and not thinking enough about the plan but that doesn't make me mafia if citi.zen is town. Likewise if you lynch me and I'm town, that doesn't automatically make citi.zen mafia. If one of us flips red, you can consider the other more green/be suspicious by reverse psychology since mafia would know whether the other person was green. But two people pointing fingers at each other doesn't really mean much if the first one killed ends up green. Well, I think if he's mafia, then it clears you as town, and vice versa - mafia wouldn't continually point each other out so unnecessarily imo. So I'm thinking the other way around with what you're thinking. On May 07 2010 08:35 Korynne wrote: Darth's only "significant" post (slightly long and looks like it wasn't written in 5 minutes) seem to be the one for reasoning to kill johnnyspazz, except one way before on some plan on verifying alignment cop's sanity. Didn't vote for sidesprang or make any mention of it. Prefered killing spazz to JeeJee. Seems reasonably scummy to vote for. Excuse me? I just spent my entire afternoon today while not in class writing up a post that's on one of the last couple pages. Almost NONE of my posts are "written in 5 minutes." Maybe it's because I spend more time reading than posting, but at least represent me fairly if you're going to call out my posting quality. I didn't vote for sidesprang because I wasn't around to do it. I think I've said this before; I wasn't there when everyone except for Qatol and Radfield started voting for sidesprang, and didn't know I wouldn't make it back in time to vote. There was discussion of going for someone else and CV'ing sidesprang instead, so I held back my vote for later - which I missed obviously, unplanned. I'm sorry if TL Mafia isn't my #1 priority in life. But I've said this like 3 times at least now, please read through my posts before you bring up things I already addressed, or point the things out that don't make sense in my follow-ups. I preferred johnnyspazz over JeeJee because neither was really "clear scum" but we had to go for something. My reasoning to end up with johnnyspazz is in the post that you already mentioned. Explain to me why I'm scummy again? Radfield, this goes out to you too. The only reason I've seen you give to lynch me is that my "posting is generally scummy" - I think your town, but I disagree with this - could you be more specific with that comment? | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
i would prefer scamp over darth though but since i sux at keeping track of deadline i can vote darth for now.. ##vote: darth btw ace, i don't understand your rage. it was obvious from the day post that no invention was made, and bill just said he decided not to make an invention to prove his innocence. the day post revealed both the lack of invention and his innocence, so i'm not seeing the game-altering info? | ||
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