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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.justnicephoto.com/wp-content/uploads/997/147052%5B1%5D-690x1014.jpg) The town had expected a quiet and solemn night after the hanging held earlier, but it was not to be. While their nerves were shot, they were not the only thing shot in the night. Radfield was minding his own business, brewing some coffee in his home. He didn't even hear his backdoor getting picked with a card, and honestly should have paid for a better lock. The cold steel pressed against and felt cold on the back of his head. "Any last words?" an icy voice asked and they started laughing an evil mocking laugh "wh-" *BANG* "tsk tsk tsk. You just couldn't stay out of our business could you?" *BANG* *BANG* BANG* The killer took the time to take off the coffee, add sugar and cream to some in a mug, and light a cigarette . He contemplated what he would do later, where he would sleep, and decided that he would just stay there until the night was over. Radfield lived far out away from any neighbors, or at least he had. The man that killed him slept in his bed, drank his coffee, used his toilet after the night killing him, and then went to confuse the town again the next day. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
The night you were all lynching, my power went out. xD I finally get power back at 6am, jump on mafia, and it's like, shit, someone's put Abenson at L-1. AWW CRAP WHY DID YOU GUYS LYNCH HIM ALREADY. >.> Urgh... Seriously guys this isn't like a 30 people game, with only 5 required to lynch each vote counts quite significantly (I seem to have made this blunder, however I check mafia /very/ frequently and did not expect my power to go out. xD) With Radfield gone that's like a good portion of our activity gone. So everyone I know the first day might have been a bit of a short notice, but now that everyone has had 3 days we really should step it up. If mafia just hits our active townies, it doesn't matter if our blue roles (if we have any) stay hidden among the townies, we'll inactive ourselves to death soon enough. So on to my analysis (which shouldn't be too bad since there's only 7 of us now instead of like OMFG TWENTY PEOPLE TO ANALYZE in the other mafia xD, also the 5 pages instead of 70 helps too xD) d3_crescentia Seems pretty active First person to vote for Abenson Claims to have a good amount of free time in the next few days (so hoping for good things from you ^^) Clarifies that his vote on Abenson + Show Spoiler + On April 26 2010 07:05 d3_crescentia wrote: A little bit of column A, a little bit of column B. It's hard to get a good read on Abenson given past histories - he's played exactly the same way no matter what his alignment was in previous games, and it becomes increasingly difficult to figure that out as the game drags on longer because his posts still wouldn't contain anything to analyze. Unfaltered when Abenson counter accuses him of being mafia, remains firm with his conviction Conclusion: Not a lot to go by, but seems pretty solid, only thing to note is starting the Abenson lynch but it wasn't completely random and his actions do not seem strange or inconsistent. abenson Uh, dead. Accused me and d3 of being scum for being the first 2 to vote for him korynne Uh, I don't want to analyze myself, that doesn't seem to make sense, but I'll give you a summary. Chatted with Radfield in the beginning for a bit when noone else was active xD Basic questions/answers regarding blue roles etc. Second to vote for Abenson Friggin got power outaged -.- *rageragerage* Conclusion: Good news townies! I'm playing in both mafia games and I just got power outaged, clearly this is a sign I am the mafia Flash! Therefore since I am town-aligned we will win this! ^^ (Isn't that wonderful logic?) XeliN Asks d3 if his vote on abenson is serious Explains to Abenson why his example is silly, asks d3 to explain himself again (d3 had not responded at this point) Doesn't think we should really lynch Abenson since he claims Abenson isn't really detracting from any other conversation that is going on (but my point on this is that if there wasn't something to talk about, people would be forced to think of something to talk about. Radfield and I spoke about a couple things related to the game setup and basic strategies) Proposes that we lynch someone inactive or if everyone is active to lynch someone random 5th person to vote for Abenson (note: this vote is made approx. 8 hours ahead of end of day) + Show Spoiler + Looks like he is going to get the majority votes and it seems unlikely that people would be up for random lynching someone so to save some time so I'll vote: Abenson too. Completely goes back on his statements: + Show Spoiler + Johnny this is the beggining of the game, I agree with the reasons others listed, his LaL discussion was pushed way too much and pretty much substanceless and his defence was to accuse the two people immediately of being scum simply for voting for him, quite frankly he seems like the best person to go with. As you can read from above, he did not agree with LaL being pushed too much and wanted to lynch the most inactive person (I'm pretty sure there were plenty of candidates at this point) + Show Spoiler + I was going to vote straight after I saw Abenson immediately accuse cresentia and Korynne of being mafia, I found their voting rather abrupt but there is no way you can immediately jump to the conclusion they are scum because of that as there was reasoning behind it, I decided not to and then on seeing that my vote would be a decider thought I would cut to the chase, I would rather have voted an inactive or voted randomly, even though Abenson had presented some unuseful ideas and defended himself poorly but 4 people had voted him already. Bar someone accidently posting their PM confirming them as mafia it didn't seem likely that we would end up with anything other than No Lynch or Abenson being lynched and I am impatient. Contradicts himself yet again? (Oh, so if you were mafia, you would know that Abenson was innocent, so an innocent person who accuses two other people of being mafia is a pretty good lynch right?) **Seeing that your vote would be a decider should make you PAUSE and THINK and NOT PRESS THE TRIGGER so to speak!!! Now we're one townie down because you were too impatient... Have some faith in people, (other than me being power outaged) if you have a good reason to lynch someone else and it's valid, trust that people will listen and follow you over before 8 hours is up. Or at least try and then switch to Abenson at the last minute if you don't see it happening. Or at least discuss whether we should lynch someone else first, ex. guys I really don't think it's a good idea to lynch Abenson when we have all these inactives, however I don't want to risk having a no lynch at the end of the day, so can I have a "show of hands" to know if I should just vote for Abenson or can we work to lynch a better candidate.** To everyone else, please don't do this, it is rather frowned upon. Accuses JohnnySpazz of being suspicious after Johnny keeps questioning his logic Openly says that he does not want to start off the analysis (not even pulling the newb card here?) I would like to add that in addition to your note about being roleblocked, if you have been roleblocked, then clearly we are in setup 1 and if you were the detective, then OMG FIND THE MEDIC xD Conclusion: First couple posts seem pro-town then woah, everything went waaaay downhill from there. xD Accusing Johnny doesn't help your case, neither does the I'll let someone else start (or what, you're afraid that given free rein of how the day 2 conversation starts you would accidentally reveal yourself?) You sir, have a lot to explain. [NyC]Hobbes Tells Abenson that: "I'm currently personally trying to decide if your play suggests scum or is just misguided" 3rd person to vote for Abenson (in Hobbes' 2nd real post) and considers him "best-case an exceptionally useless townie" Conclusion: Not very active, slightly suspicious for just kind of cutting in, laying some suspicion on Abenson (his first real post was kind of like a prep for his second post which voted for Abenson) before hammering in the vote. Will be off my scummy list if he just posts more (his posts are not scummy in nature, just the fact that his only 2 posts are basically to consolidate the Abenson lynch) JohnnySpazz Comments on LaL. Radfield asks him about giving an example of when blue role would need to lie, gives a pretty normal answer Comments that the last 2 votes on Abenson are scummy, FoS'd the two people Points out XeliN's inconsistency Basically has the same arguments as I did regarding why Xelin looks scummy Conclusion: Seems pretty pro-town, but that's kind of based on the fact that Xelin is quite scummy looking. Magically pops up 5 min after Xelin puts in his vote to accuse the two of them being the most suspicious thing he's done so far. BrownBear Notes that hopefully inactivity won't be a problem Agrees with LaL (omgwtf xP), no reasoning provided (pretty sure other people by this point have already went LaL = wtf) + Show Spoiler + Hmmm... it's really difficult to say who is who on day 1. I mean, why is this Absenson bandwagon going, because we think Absenson is a liar or because we don't like his track record in games? I mean, I guess I understand what Hobbes is saying - Absenson has a history of going AWOL in Mafia games, which makes him useless as a townie, and given that we have nothing better to go on, I guess lynching the useless works. I still find it kinda silly, but whatever, I'll bite: VOTE: ABSENSON Sorry bro. Finds something kind of silly and then goes ahead and puts Abenson at L-1... Conclusion: Not very contributive... agrees with LaL and then goes ahead with Abenson. Needs to be more active. Radfield Aww he's dead. Not going to bother detail analysis, but clearly pretty pro town and very active. A sad loss to town. =( *moment of silence* RebirthofLegend Some fluffy post of sorts. Uhhh, so you don't post afterwards... hypocrite much? >.> Conclusion: Same as Hobbes, scummy for lack of posting, but not actually scummy post (wasn't involved in lynching Abenson in any way). Please be active. >.> | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
Not entirely sure if inactivity can be emphasised much at this point but I would like to see RoL and Hobbes get involved. | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
You might as well accuse me of being mafia as well then XeliN, seeing as how in my analysis I pretty much have the exact same arguments as JohnnySpazz. In fact, I know I would've been freaking out at you right after you voted (or actually I would've retracted my post at L-1 if I was't power outaged). Given that I came to the same conclusion as Johnny after reading your posts, I am inclined to believe that you are mafia moreso than Johnny, given the current circumstances. Uh, you wanted to lynch the most inactive players on day 1 (when people could have not noticed the game started yet, or went out, had other plans, etc etc.) and now on day 2, when everyone has had enough time to acknowledge that they know mafia is happening, you don't think inactivity can be emphasized?? We lost Radfield, one of the more active posters, if we don't put pressure on everyone to post we're done for. Inactivity is terribly for town! | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
But if I was around and able to make sure a stupid mistake like yesterday didn't happen again, then my vote is for XeliN right now. So for all intents of analysis, consider me as the first person to vote for XeliN today. However due to the accident last night, I will not be putting up an actual vote in case some impatient bandwagon develops again. Talk to you folks tomorrow evening, BE ACTIVE!! | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
I have absolutely no regret in the way I voted, Abenson was clearly going to be lynched anyway, I could see no situation whatsoever whereby another person would have been voted for and so it was a case of either lynching Abenson or having a no lynch. Possibly I should have held off just to allow more time for people to post and create a better feel of the people in the game mut meh... I said I wanted to lynch the inactive player but as stated it was obvious to me the choice was Abenson or no lynch. I do not consider you as suspicious as johnny although even with him it is only because of the way he went about voicing his suspicions, and then the post where he Bolded some of what I wrote and responded reeked of trying to cast suspicion without substance. I'll address that post directly if people feel i need to although on the matter of how I voted I have explained my position fully currently so it would just be repetition. Actually screw it.. I already have a vote on me so appears i have to rush into defence mode. + Show Spoiler + On April 26 2010 16:12 johnnyspazz wrote: On April 26 2010 15:42 XeliN wrote: I was going to vote straight after I saw Abenson immediately accuse cresentia and Korynne of being mafia, you realize abenson never really accused them of being scum right? that is hardly accusing d3 and korynne of being scum On April 26 2010 11:06 Abenson wrote: Too lazy to post other posts So to sum it up: Korynne and d3: You're scum, I'm voting for you Everyone else: Hmm... We'll think about it. + Show Spoiler + On April 26 2010 16:12 johnnyspazz wrote: I found their voting rather abrupt but there is no way you can immediately jump to the conclusion they are scum because of that as there was reasoning behind it, I decided not to this makes no sense, which "they" are you referring to? are you saying "their" votes could've seemed scummy if it didn't have any reasoning but since it did have reasoning, you decided not to vote for "them"? almost everyone's reason to lynch abenson have been really poor. or are you saying you held off on voting for abenson? i'm really trying to understand what you are saying. The "they" was referring to cresentia and Korynne then on seeing that my vote would be a decider thought I would cut to the chase, are you admitting you're mafia and since you knew abenson would turn green and help you win, you decided to vote for him? This is a meaningless accusation as far as I can tell so errm Yes? No? What were you hoping to achieve by writing this? I would rather have voted an inactive or voted randomly, even though Abenson had presented some unuseful ideas and defended himself poorly but 4 people had voted him already. what are you trying to say? this barely makes any sense as well. if you would rather vote randomly/inactive, then why didn't you wait? your reasons for voting are also really bad. are you trying to say you killed abenson because other people thought he was detrimental to the town's win? btw, abenson only presented one idea, and that was to start discussion sine no one else was posting. Seeing as apparently what I was trying to say was unclear I'll number it. 1) Abenson had 4 votes 2) I saw 2 options, either Abenson would be lynched or there would be No Lynch, at this point in my mind there was no possibility of someone else being lynched as Abenson already had 4 votes on him. 3)I had a choice of voting or waiting, I decided to just go ahead and vote. I voted Abenson because he was both the only possibly person to be lynched on day 1 and he had shown himself to not be very helpful. I would not have done it had he not already had 4 votes but hey my dream of lynching an inactive or someone randomly was not to be. Bar someone accidently posting their PM confirming them as mafia it didn't seem likely that we would end up with anything other than No Lynch or Abenson being lynched and I am impatient. day ends in eight hours, how are you that impatient? it didn't seem like we would get any other scenario because people like you just jump on bandwagons instead of discussing. How am I that impatient? I just am, often I have played mafia games where I am simply waiting for things to happen. You say I jumped on the bandwagon which I most certainly did but only because as I have said, it was the only wagon that was going to be travelling through town that day. | ||
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Radfield
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On April 27 2010 18:08 Radfield wrote: Oh for fucks sake. Both games I've gotten lynched first night <3 It gets better, don't worry! | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On the topic of Abenson, I stand by the lynch, as we now have more info to discuss, and we don't have to deal with the entire freaking thread being people offering their viewpoints on LAL | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
Seeing as apparently what I was trying to say was unclear I'll number it. 1) Abenson had 4 votes 2) I saw 2 options, either Abenson would be lynched or there would be No Lynch, at this point in my mind there was no possibility of someone else being lynched as Abenson already had 4 votes on him. 3)I had a choice of voting or waiting, I decided to just go ahead and vote. I voted Abenson because he was both the only possibly person to be lynched on day 1 and he had shown himself to not be very helpful. I would not have done it had he not already had 4 votes but hey my dream of lynching an inactive or someone randomly was not to be. In a game this small, a random/inactive lynch is a pretty bad idea. Yes, our chances of hitting Mafia are 2/9 by random lynch anyway, so it's better to try and come to an informed decision anyway. Even if our information is wrong, we can turn back to those that suggested it in the first place and analyze their motivations. The problem with your reasoning to vote is that it all amounts to "I voted because it was close," which is something that can be easily interpreted either way. My suspicions are split between you and BrownBear right now. RoL where are YOU, by the way? Activity is so important in a small game like this, just like you said~ Vote: RoL | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
I will be in class for a while, then I will post some analysis. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
RebirthofLegend (d3_crescentia) Not Voting: (Korynne, RebirthofLegend, XeliN, JohnnySpazz, BrownBear, [NyC]Hobbes) | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On April 26 2010 11:06 Abenson wrote: Too lazy to post other posts So to sum it up: Korynne and d3: You're scum, I'm voting for you Everyone else: Hmm... We'll think about it. Xelin, i am pretty sure this is abenson paraphrasing korynne and d3's posts | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On April 28 2010 01:32 [NyC]HoBbes wrote: On the topic of Abenson, I stand by the lynch, as we now have more info to discuss, and we don't have to deal with the entire freaking thread being people offering their viewpoints on LAL instead of just saying we have more info, please share it with the rest of us | ||
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