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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 25 2010 20:58 GMT
#81
Hmm...
I've been on TL for like 4 months now
does that mean I'll evolve when i hit 500? o.o
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
April 25 2010 20:59 GMT
#82
Abenson it seems fairly self explanatory that if someone claims DT and submits to town the name of someone he claims if Red and it then transpires that person is townie that we lynch the DT claimer. There are no Masons in this game so there is no opportunity for a DT to put a townie forwards as a Scum candidate. As I said this is all self-explanatory though, we don't really need to discuss this although tbh there is not a huge ammount to discuss at this point in the game, I would like to hear cresentia outline exactly why he voted for you though.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
April 25 2010 21:00 GMT
#83
Was one step away from editing then so it read more clearly, habits are hard to break ^^
Adonai bless
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 25 2010 21:15 GMT
#84
On April 26 2010 05:02 Korynne wrote:
Radfield that sounds great and all but here are the 4 possible scenerios:

#1 Detective + Medic, in which case the strategy would work very nicely

#2 Townies... in which case we all sit around and wait to die because there's no DT?

#3 There is a detective, but that can never be confirmed because the mafia can counterclaim detective.

#4 There is a medic... in which case we're all sitting around again, but at least the mafia can't pretend to be detective easily (someone asks DT to rolecheck them, mafia wouldn't know if they are medic or townie).

So in any case, I've never played a PM-allowed mafia game before, what exactly do the rest of us do while the detective is collecting his circle of townies?



Yeah, much of my post pertains to a DT, I was just thinking through the role and how best to play it in this situation. But whether there is or is not a dt, obviously we still all hunt scum as best we can.

As far as situation #3, we can confirm our detective. Once we have enough info, we can lynch the detective and all of that info becomes verified. Of course we would only do that if it benefited us to do so, or if we became suspicious of the detective. In the event of two people claiming detective, that can easily be cleared up, and we have a 50/50 shot of hitting the mafia first(although theoretically BOTH mafia could claim dt)


PrePost Edit: I was going to respond to Abensons example, but Xelin beat me to it I see.
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
April 25 2010 21:44 GMT
#85
Vote Abenson

Reason: He's brought up rather stupid things twice already, which is way more than anyone else.

#1 LAL Policy
Pretty impossible to verify obviously, not to mention if we catch someone lying we can easily deal with it (ie. someone is mafia, lies and says he is townie, lynch him, no brainer. someone is medic and lies and says he is townie to protect himself, obviously we shouldn't lynch him).

Either way, this is such an arbitrary idea and plenty of people have poked plenty of holes in it.

#2 Someone claiming DT and lynching a townie
Well DUH if someone claims he rolechecked someone and claims that the rolecheck turns out mafia then CLEARLY the guy is lying and is either mafia or a COMPLETELY RETARDED townie
If you are townie and you think someone is scum you don't claim them to be mafia through rolecheck. You provide good evidence to town that he is mafia and get him lynched that way.

Completely dumb example. >.>

Given that this is day 1, I don't think I will find someone else who is being as distracting to the town (this reminds me of BM assassin plan in the other mafia game where everyone just ends up talking about it for like 5 pages even though it's completely useless) so I am voting for Abenson unless something else turns out.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 25 2010 22:05 GMT
#86
On April 26 2010 04:29 XeliN wrote:
crescentia is your vote on Abenson serious and because you actually suspect he might be mafia because of his suggestion or more like a placeholder for now?

A little bit of column A, a little bit of column B. It's hard to get a good read on Abenson given past histories - he's played exactly the same way no matter what his alignment was in previous games, and it becomes increasingly difficult to figure that out as the game drags on longer because his posts still wouldn't contain anything to analyze.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 25 2010 23:34 GMT
#87
On April 26 2010 07:05 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2010 04:29 XeliN wrote:
crescentia is your vote on Abenson serious and because you actually suspect he might be mafia because of his suggestion or more like a placeholder for now?

A little bit of column A, a little bit of column B. It's hard to get a good read on Abenson given past histories - he's played exactly the same way no matter what his alignment was in previous games, and it becomes increasingly difficult to figure that out as the game drags on longer because his posts still wouldn't contain anything to analyze.


Hmm...
It's true, I have a really bad record in TL Mafia
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 26 2010 00:27 GMT
#88
I think most people's mafia sense started tingling after the LAL post. However, I'm going to hold onto my vote for now. Remember it only takes 5 to lynch, and we still have 24hrs to get our votes in. Until we have 9 active posters I still think we need to put pressure on people: Johnnyspazz, Brownbear and (NyC)Hobbes I'm looking at you.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
April 26 2010 00:29 GMT
#89
We can't let the mafia hide out while we lynch suspicious townies.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
April 26 2010 00:36 GMT
#90
I don't think that Abenson is likely, or more likely than anyone else, to be mafia simply from his LaL posting. It does seem to be something that is fairly pointless and somewhat meaningless although it's not like you can argue he used it to divert discussion or direct focus away from something else because hardly anything has been discussed at this point.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
April 26 2010 00:37 GMT
#91
For now I would propose lynching the least active person, although this is only in the case where someone has posted like 1-2 posts or not at all, if everyone in the game is reasonably active then currently I would be down for lynching someone randomly.
Adonai bless
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 26 2010 01:18 GMT
#92
This is quite an amusing game, keke.

...

We will be watching youuuuuu~
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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 26 2010 02:04 GMT
#93
People who voted for me:
d3 and Korynne

From what I see (and from my point view), you tried to start a lynch on me, but stopped as everyone else spoke out against it.

scum-signs? :D
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 26 2010 02:06 GMT
#94
Response from LAL:

On April 25 2010 13:41 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2010 10:17 Abenson wrote:
Alright, I would like to propose a policy: LAL
What does it mean?
Lynch All Liars
This policy is proposed with the mindset that townies have nothing to hide, and that the mafia are the one that needs to conceal something.

Your thoughts?

How are you even supposed to catch someone in a lie until AFTER you lynch them or get them DT checked? When are you actually going to expect a DT/Medic to publicly claim in this game? And even if Mafia were to claim DT, they have a good chance of getting away with it by picking townies at random to "check."

Vote: Abenson


On April 26 2010 06:44 Korynne wrote:
Vote Abenson

Reason: He's brought up rather stupid things twice already, which is way more than anyone else.

#1 LAL Policy
Pretty impossible to verify obviously, not to mention if we catch someone lying we can easily deal with it (ie. someone is mafia, lies and says he is townie, lynch him, no brainer. someone is medic and lies and says he is townie to protect himself, obviously we shouldn't lynch him).

Either way, this is such an arbitrary idea and plenty of people have poked plenty of holes in it.

#2 Someone claiming DT and lynching a townie
Well DUH if someone claims he rolechecked someone and claims that the rolecheck turns out mafia then CLEARLY the guy is lying and is either mafia or a COMPLETELY RETARDED townie
If you are townie and you think someone is scum you don't claim them to be mafia through rolecheck. You provide good evidence to town that he is mafia and get him lynched that way.

Completely dumb example. >.>

Given that this is day 1, I don't think I will find someone else who is being as distracting to the town (this reminds me of BM assassin plan in the other mafia game where everyone just ends up talking about it for like 5 pages even though it's completely useless) so I am voting for Abenson unless something else turns out.


Too lazy to post other posts

So to sum it up:
Korynne and d3: You're scum, I'm voting for you

Everyone else: Hmm... We'll think about it.
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
April 26 2010 02:36 GMT
#95
To Abenson: If you don't have something constructive to contribute, it's better not to contribute. We don't need you to outline really, really self-explanatory things to everyone. Nearly everything you've said in this game so far has fallen under one of two patterns:

1)- Say something everyone who has played a game of TL mafia before understands
2)- Defend yourself against people who want to lynch you by saying they're obviously mafia for wanting to lynch you.

I'm currently personally trying to decide if your play suggests scum or is just misguided
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 26 2010 02:44 GMT
#96
On April 26 2010 11:04 Abenson wrote:
People who voted for me:
d3 and Korynne

From what I see (and from my point view), you tried to start a lynch on me, but stopped as everyone else spoke out against it.

scum-signs? :D

Stopped what? Wanting to lynch you? I'm afraid that's patently untrue, as you see that my vote hasn't changed anywhere - though if it did, it wouldn't have done anything to stifle my desire to see you gone. I remain unconvinced that your presence here will be beneficial in the later stages of the game no matter what your alignment turns out to be, and until you prove otherwise my vote stays on you.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
April 26 2010 03:34 GMT
#97
On April 25 2010 22:00 Radfield wrote:
Johnnyspazz, can you give me an example where in this setup one of our blue roles would have a reason to lie to avoid getting hit by mafia, and possibly get caught in that lie.

obviously you lynch stupid scummy players who lie but i was thinking like if a blue role was going to be mistakenly lynched, if he just straight up roleclaims in the thread to avoid getting lynched, then the mafia is just going to hit him at night. i agree with you that a dt has no reason to lie about his checks, but i feel like he needs to lie about his role to prevent getting hit at night under certain circumstances. i guess there are minor lies and major lies and i interpreted wrongly LaL as lynching anyone if they lie even if its a minor lie.
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[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
April 26 2010 04:09 GMT
#98
OK, pointless conversation about LAL is basically the entire content of this thread at this point. Considering that Abenson is best-case an exceptionally useless townie and worst case mafia, I'm going to have to agree with D3 and say

Vote: Abenson

Other than someone we're confident is mafia, the best place to put a night 1 lynch is on a useless poster, it gets us more information than lynching an inactive at the same cost to the town
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-26 05:05:02
April 26 2010 05:03 GMT
#99
On April 26 2010 13:09 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
OK, pointless conversation about LAL is basically the entire content of this thread at this point. Considering that Abenson is best-case an exceptionally useless townie and worst case mafia, I'm going to have to agree with D3 and say

Vote: Abenson

Other than someone we're confident is mafia, the best place to put a night 1 lynch is on a useless poster, it gets us more information than lynching an inactive at the same cost to the town


You need to bold your vote.

I'll allow it, but try to bold it next time. You may need to put red text in your messages so you may put them in unbolded red or italics. I will check bolded red for votes, it is just easier on me this way. If people want this changed I will accept discussion. Hell, feel free to PM me about it.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
April 26 2010 05:04 GMT
#100
Hmmm... it's really difficult to say who is who on day 1. I mean, why is this Absenson bandwagon going, because we think Absenson is a liar or because we don't like his track record in games? I mean, I guess I understand what Hobbes is saying - Absenson has a history of going AWOL in Mafia games, which makes him useless as a townie, and given that we have nothing better to go on, I guess lynching the useless works. I still find it kinda silly, but whatever, I'll bite:

VOTE: ABSENSON

Sorry bro.
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