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disciple
9069 Posts
On December 09 2009 08:22 Pang0lin wrote: Asi Mani said: Giyom dominated his era, and therefore is an all time great.  Best luck for Idra I'm sure Idra can win the OSL as well. He must just close his eyes, hold his hands together and wish it really really hard | ||
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hahaimhenry
Canada368 Posts
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Freyr
United States500 Posts
On December 09 2009 09:42 lone_hydra wrote: Bull. Just because they are in two different eras doesn't make them incomparable, people who say that are afraid of the results of the comparison. Pretty much everything is comparable given the right set of variables and adjustments to account for time differences. But that's exactly the problem - you don't know the "right" way to account for the differences. You can talk about it sure. "JD would crush Grrr, but Grrr seems to have come up with all kinds of original play before anyone else without reps etc.." - this can be fun, but I don't see a way to draw any valid conclusions from that type of comparison. | ||
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PewptyPewptyPewpty
United States26 Posts
Testie may very well be the most well-rounded foreigner of all time. If you had to pick one foreigner who was great at everything---1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, ffa, bgh, fastest, ums etc etc I don't see how you could pick anyone else. He hacked against me in cloud ladder though so if you disagree that's fine. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Freyr
United States500 Posts
On December 09 2009 10:57 jalstar wrote: Someone who gets olympic on iccup would be destroyed by most progamers, and Idra's not even olympic on iccup. How do you figure that? What makes you think a lot of the olympic players aren't progamers? | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
On December 09 2009 11:13 Freyr wrote: How do you figure that? What makes you think a lot of the olympic players aren't progamers? Seriously...Sea.Shield is #1 on the ladder right now and we've all seen how hot he's been lately. | ||
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p4ge
Canada160 Posts
On December 09 2009 08:11 DreaM)XeRO wrote: but still the handicap that idra has to overcome is much different than the one Giyom had to overcome. Back in his era starcraft was still budding. The talent pool was growing but still somewhat small. Now take all of the programmers or aspiring programmers. It's ridiculously huge. An average korean amateur could give Idra a run for his money. Star has evolved so much that it is almost an entirely different game from the one that Giyom played. uh? i don't understand your argument. what about the handicap that giyom has to idra who has the advantages that the new era in sc has brought with it? each era has its own set of standards, and you're not understanding that. it's like saying a random physics professor today who since understanding the theory of newton and being equipped with the advantages of the time should be judged at a lower standard simply because science has advanced so much, therefore he is greater because he is disadvantaged by the fact that there's so much more to science now then before. that's not how it works | ||
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EverydayStruggle
United States77 Posts
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Glaucus
479 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
Oh, not a foreigner. | ||
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Freyr
United States500 Posts
On December 09 2009 12:50 El.Divino wrote: Yeah...how about Sea? Sea's good. Oh, not a foreigner. If this is a sarcastic reference to Athos' post then maybe you should re-read it and try hard to understand what the exchange was all about. | ||
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Tossim111
United States246 Posts
On December 09 2009 09:24 igotmyown wrote: We old old school starcraft fans forever remember him as Guillaume. Nobody ever called him Giyom before he went to korea. iirc, grrr had his id in WCG as "GiYoM".. chill | ||
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triflejack
Romania25 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
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Elwinros
United States93 Posts
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29 fps
United States5718 Posts
On December 09 2009 12:38 Glaucus wrote: There's like 150 progamers. But there are only 4 olympic ranks on iccup. The complete top 50 isn't even A+. not all progamers play iccup, i believe | ||
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