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Idra Greatest Of All Time? - Page 5

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Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
December 10 2009 14:49 GMT
#81
PJ beat sAviOr, but IdrA practises with sAviOr... IdrA wins lol
Entusman #51
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 15:15:09
December 10 2009 15:14 GMT
#82
On December 10 2009 07:35 Chef wrote:
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On December 10 2009 06:01 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Idra's weakness is early game skirmish and cheese.

I think it's more broad than that. He has difficulty innovating, which affects all stages of his game.


The jury is still out on that one. He made huge improvements in the past year and now has solid mechanics and pretty much mastered "standard" play. Now he can start experimenting, talk to coaches and devise his own little twists on things. Greg is still very young and has lots of room to improve - we will have to wait and see how much. Either way, congrats to him for a great year.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 10 2009 15:23 GMT
#83
On December 10 2009 07:35 Chef wrote:
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On December 10 2009 06:01 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Idra's weakness is early game skirmish and cheese.

I think it's more broad than that. He has difficulty innovating, which affects all stages of his game.

Maybe his play is not as 'flashy' as other progamers (or even foreigners if that). But I believe all these years he's been learning to master the Korean standard play, which is pretty much the foundation of everything else. You need a solid ground to experiment new strategies. I think that's the right way of doing it.

One who has sexy marine or muta micro but fails at everything else doesn't go as far as competitive Starcraft is concerned.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
December 10 2009 15:40 GMT
#84
Excellent tongue-in-cheek OP. I'm not sure if I'm more horrified at the number of people who assumed it was meant seriously, or the number of people who agree with it and are serious.

On December 09 2009 08:45 sS.NuB wrote:
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On December 09 2009 08:40 mog87 wrote:
On December 09 2009 08:35 Re-Play- wrote:
idra will lose, and if he wins, is because he is training in korea he have advantage


Well gee way to go out on a limb and make a prediction there, buddy.


Yeah, its illegal to make predictions that make sense!

Predictions like "Idra will lose, except if he wins"?
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
December 10 2009 18:23 GMT
#85
Idra is more like the Cyborg in Carano vs Cyborg. He's been racking up tournament wins lately though and I wonder if he has surpassed Testie's accomplishments?

Marines > everything
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 10 2009 22:29 GMT
#86
On December 09 2009 09:32 selboN wrote:
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idra is a skillness noobie

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Attacking with probes, how cute
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And I only did this build because I thought he was a Zerg
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You can't see this in the pictures but he dropped from 70+ supply to 33

Who's the skill-less newbie?

oh god. this is amazing
cw)minsean(ru
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
December 11 2009 00:49 GMT
#87
keep it coming guys, still got 10 mins lunch break
Fixed
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
December 11 2009 01:01 GMT
#88
Why are we even talking about this. Clearly is GiYom. He was the first and actually accomplished stuff. Whats better winning a Korean starleague and being the best starcraft player in the world against all odds OR getting smashed by B-teamers????
fanatacist likes men.....but mostly boys...and some anal toys. Also his ability to read and understand posts is on par with a slightly retarded meerkat.
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
December 14 2009 17:38 GMT
#89
On December 11 2009 00:14 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 07:35 Chef wrote:
On December 10 2009 06:01 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Idra's weakness is early game skirmish and cheese.

I think it's more broad than that. He has difficulty innovating, which affects all stages of his game.


The jury is still out on that one. He made huge improvements in the past year and now has solid mechanics and pretty much mastered "standard" play. Now he can start experimenting, talk to coaches and devise his own little twists on things. Greg is still very young and has lots of room to improve - we will have to wait and see how much. Either way, congrats to him for a great year.

Here's the thing though. He's on the B team of a proteam. B teams do not do innovative things, they do not practice funny strategies, he has to play the same build, day after day, to get it down pat. It's not that he's not innovative, it's that CJ prevents him from even practicing these things.
HitEmUp
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 06:18:39
December 16 2009 06:04 GMT
#90
On December 15 2009 02:38 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
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On December 11 2009 00:14 citi.zen wrote:
On December 10 2009 07:35 Chef wrote:
On December 10 2009 06:01 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Idra's weakness is early game skirmish and cheese.

I think it's more broad than that. He has difficulty innovating, which affects all stages of his game.


The jury is still out on that one. He made huge improvements in the past year and now has solid mechanics and pretty much mastered "standard" play. Now he can start experimenting, talk to coaches and devise his own little twists on things. Greg is still very young and has lots of room to improve - we will have to wait and see how much. Either way, congrats to him for a great year.

Here's the thing though. He's on the B team of a proteam. B teams do not do innovative things, they do not practice funny strategies, he has to play the same build, day after day, to get it down pat. It's not that he's not innovative, it's that CJ prevents him from even practicing these things.


Actually, if there's one person I could think of that will always play standard in the foreign scene, it's Idra. He's good at it and pretty much makes fun of anyone who doesn't do the same on a given map.

EDIT: Mind you, maybe it's all part of his plan to triple bunker rush ret in the TSL finals.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 16 2009 06:38 GMT
#91
he bunker rushed yayba in a recent tournament, that was after yayba did a bunch of bulldogs and reaver drops and dt drops 4 games straight though.

even idra can be pushed to cheese.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 16 2009 06:39 GMT
#92
This is s troll right? I refuse to believe anyone would actually think Idra's greatest > Grrr's greatness
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
December 16 2009 06:41 GMT
#93
On December 09 2009 08:07 Manifesto7 wrote:
Great players dominate in their respective eras. Greatness is not contingent on the ability to dominate in all eras. Giyom dominated his era, and therefore is an all time great. The level of play now has nothing to do with it. IdrA is not great now because he cannot dominate his era. All sports work this way.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
December 16 2009 06:51 GMT
#94
I think mondragon is the greatest player of all time if you consider how long he's been competing at the highest level and that he's a good sportsman. He's always been someone to look up not only gamewise but as a player in general.
Ret is awsome but I think he's too new to be put as the greatest of all time.
Idra may be good gamewise but he will never be great player in my eyes.

"Best of all time" might be someone else though..
4649!!
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 08:26:45
December 16 2009 08:19 GMT
#95
this is the WSOP 2009 phil ivey hype intro with sc names btw

edit: oh someone said it already
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 16 2009 08:27 GMT
#96
On December 16 2009 17:19 Kyuukyuu wrote:
this is the WSOP 2009 phil ivey hype intro with sc names btw

Oh booo... haha. Please post link anyway.

Also, I wonder if Idra will do anything for 10k post :O Embarrassing pictures of CJ players would be enough.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 16 2009 08:29 GMT
#97
On December 16 2009 14:33 IdrA wrote:
pvp is so funny

they just sit there hurling imbalanced shit at each other


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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
December 16 2009 08:52 GMT
#98
On December 16 2009 17:29 Harem wrote:
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On December 16 2009 14:33 IdrA wrote:
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pvp is so funny

they just sit there hurling imbalanced shit at each other


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that quote is soo funny rofl
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2303 Posts
December 16 2009 17:18 GMT
#99
On December 09 2009 08:07 Manifesto7 wrote:
Great players dominate in their respective eras. Greatness is not contingent on the ability to dominate in all eras. Giyom dominated his era, and therefore is an all time great. The level of play now has nothing to do with it. IdrA is not great now because he cannot dominate his era. All sports work this way.

Not really, Johan cruyff can dominate any era...
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
December 16 2009 17:53 GMT
#100
hes a better player, but then again the skill level of SC:BW now can not be compared. i'm sure most B-teamers can win starleague if put in 2001.

idra is definitely not more accomplished. and it is this way with all sports, atheletes get stronger, more fit with time because of nutrition, workout techniques, equipments, etc.
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