The jury is still out on that one. He made huge improvements in the past year and now has solid mechanics and pretty much mastered "standard" play. Now he can start experimenting, talk to coaches and devise his own little twists on things. Greg is still very young and has lots of room to improve - we will have to wait and see how much. Either way, congrats to him for a great year.

nayumi

Australia6499 Posts

December 10 2009 15:23 GMT

#83

On December 10 2009 07:35 Chef wrote:

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I think it's more broad than that. He has difficulty innovating, which affects all stages of his game.

Maybe his play is not as 'flashy' as other progamers (or even foreigners if that). But I believe all these years he's been learning to master the Korean standard play, which is pretty much the foundation of everything else. You need a solid ground to experiment new strategies. I think that's the right way of doing it.

One who has sexy marine or muta micro but fails at everything else doesn't go as far as competitive Starcraft is concerned.

MamiyaOtaru

United States1687 Posts

December 10 2009 15:40 GMT

#84

Excellent tongue-in-cheek OP. I'm not sure if I'm more horrified at the number of people who assumed it was meant seriously, or the number of people who agree with it and are serious.

On December 09 2009 08:45 sS.NuB wrote:

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Yeah, its illegal to make predictions that make sense!

Predictions like "Idra will lose, except if he wins"?

vnlegend

United States1389 Posts

December 10 2009 18:23 GMT

#85

Idra is more like the Cyborg in Carano vs Cyborg. He's been racking up tournament wins lately though and I wonder if he has surpassed Testie's accomplishments?

DreaM)XeRO

Korea (South)4667 Posts

December 10 2009 22:29 GMT

#86

On December 09 2009 09:32 selboN wrote:

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Who's the skill-less newbie?

oh god. this is amazing

BookTwo

1985 Posts

December 11 2009 00:49 GMT

#87

keep it coming guys, still got 10 mins lunch break

Fixed

United States174 Posts

December 11 2009 01:01 GMT

#88

Why are we even talking about this. Clearly is GiYom. He was the first and actually accomplished stuff. Whats better winning a Korean starleague and being the best starcraft player in the world against all odds OR getting smashed by B-teamers????

ZZangDreamjOy

Canada959 Posts

December 14 2009 17:38 GMT

#89

On December 11 2009 00:14 citi.zen wrote:

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Here's the thing though. He's on the B team of a proteam. B teams do not do innovative things, they do not practice funny strategies, he has to play the same build, day after day, to get it down pat. It's not that he's not innovative, it's that CJ prevents him from even practicing these things.

Mazer

Canada1086 Posts

December 16 2009 06:04 GMT

#90

On December 15 2009 02:38 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:

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Actually, if there's one person I could think of that will always play standard in the foreign scene, it's Idra. He's good at it and pretty much makes fun of anyone who doesn't do the same on a given map.

EDIT: Mind you, maybe it's all part of his plan to triple bunker rush ret in the TSL finals.

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

December 16 2009 06:38 GMT

#91

he bunker rushed yayba in a recent tournament, that was after yayba did a bunch of bulldogs and reaver drops and dt drops 4 games straight though.

even idra can be pushed to cheese.

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

December 16 2009 06:39 GMT

#92

This is s troll right? I refuse to believe anyone would actually think Idra's greatest > Grrr's greatness

VioleTAK

4408 Posts

December 16 2009 06:41 GMT

#93

On December 09 2009 08:07 Manifesto7 wrote:
Great players dominate in their respective eras. Greatness is not contingent on the ability to dominate in all eras. Giyom dominated his era, and therefore is an all time great. The level of play now has nothing to do with it. IdrA is not great now because he cannot dominate his era. All sports work this way.

Robinsa

Japan1333 Posts

December 16 2009 06:51 GMT

#94

I think mondragon is the greatest player of all time if you consider how long he's been competing at the highest level and that he's a good sportsman. He's always been someone to look up not only gamewise but as a player in general.
Ret is awsome but I think he's too new to be put as the greatest of all time.
Idra may be good gamewise but he will never be great player in my eyes.

"Best of all time" might be someone else though..

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

December 16 2009 08:19 GMT

#95

this is the WSOP 2009 phil ivey hype intro with sc names btw

edit: oh someone said it already

Chef

10810 Posts

December 16 2009 08:27 GMT

#96

On December 16 2009 17:19 Kyuukyuu wrote:
this is the WSOP 2009 phil ivey hype intro with sc names btw

Oh booo... haha. Please post link anyway.

Also, I wonder if Idra will do anything for 10k post :O Embarrassing pictures of CJ players would be enough.

Harem

United States11393 Posts

December 16 2009 08:29 GMT

#97

On December 16 2009 14:33 IdrA wrote:
pvp is so funny

they just sit there hurling imbalanced shit at each other

= bonjwa

DoX.)

Singapore6164 Posts

December 16 2009 08:52 GMT

#98

On December 16 2009 17:29 Harem wrote:

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= bonjwa

that quote is soo funny rofl

XenOsky

Chile2356 Posts

December 16 2009 17:18 GMT

#99

Not really, Johan cruyff can dominate any era...

SkylineSC

United States564 Posts

December 16 2009 17:53 GMT

#100

hes a better player, but then again the skill level of SC:BW now can not be compared. i'm sure most B-teamers can win starleague if put in 2001.

idra is definitely not more accomplished. and it is this way with all sports, atheletes get stronger, more fit with time because of nutrition, workout techniques, equipments, etc.