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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 14 2009 06:17 LucasWoJ wrote: chaoser is about 75% mafia. My post is taking extremely long. It should be done in an hour. please, go ahead, i'd like to see this post on me | ||
Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On July 14 2009 06:29 Malongo wrote: I say we lynch Bockit or Faronel, vote sunny and get the other. They both fit pretty well the clues. The only thing about Bockit=Mr Julias theory is that theres sooo much to tie for Mr Julia. This is a good idea, i strongly suggest that we lynch faronel first, the clues are so strong towards him | ||
StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
On July 14 2009 07:03 Scaramanga wrote: This is a good idea, i strongly suggest that we lynch faronel first, the clues are so strong towards him bockit sounds better though fool | ||
Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
For those too lazy to take a gander at the voting trends. I organized it the way I think the information would have the most value to us. Day 1 + Show Spoiler + TruthBringer votes for BC @ 00:08 Pyrrholuxia votes for BC @ 00:44 Redtooth votes for BC @ 01:07 (@ 02:35, he retracts his vote) Heavonearth votes for BC @ 06:11 ydg votes for BC @ 11:21 LucasWoJ votes for BC @ 11:48 Shikyo votes for BC @ 18:45 BWDero votes for BC @ 20:56 Falcynn votes for BC @ 21:06 Scaramanga votes for BC @ 01:56 (next day) Faronel votes for BC @ 07:44 So no fek votes for L @ 02:07 iNfuNdiBuLuM votes for L @ 02:56 Chezinu votes for L @ 03:04 ecomania votes for L@ 05:45 motbob votes for L @ 05:49 GoodWill votes for L @ 11:05 iLoveKT votes for L @ 12:13 Malongo votes for L @ 15:50 chaoser votes for L @ 02:59 (next day) JeeJee votes for L @ 03:18 BC abstains @ 13:07 Fishball abstains @ 13:25 Bockit abstains @ 13:54 Lenwe abstains @ 21:07 viv57 abstains @ 22:32 vx70GTOJudgexv abstains @ (next day) 01:12 redtooth abstains @ 01:35 Foolishness abstains @ 02:48 araav abstains @ 03:51 Elemenope abstains @ 04:09 MrBabyHands abstains @ 05:56 Nonvoters: L Inertinept Clasic kuja900 Storrzerg Rebirthoflegend Scamp Day 2 + Show Spoiler + The number on the far right after each line indicates how many votes the person has after the last vote. L votes for Truthbringer @ 10:08 BC votes for Araav @ 10:39 Faronel votes for Truthbringer @ 12:41 (2) Pyrrhuloxia votes for Araav @ 13:26 (2) ydg votes for Truthbringer @ 13:31 (3) Malongo votes for Heavonearth @ 14:04 BC from araav (1) ---> ydg @ 15:40 vx70GTOJudgexv votes for ydg @ 19:19 (2) intertinept votes for ecomania @ 21:56 Storrzerg votes for araav @ 22:25 (2) ilovekt votes for ydg @ 23:09 (3) Foolishness votes for ydg @00:33 (4) (next day) LucasWoJ votes for ecomania @ 02:02 (2) Falcynn votes for lynch ydg 03:55 (5) So no fek votes for Araav @ 05:02 (3) Chezinu votes for Truthbringer @ 10:41 (4) So no fek from araav (2)--> truthbringer @ 10:53 (5) Malongo votes for truthbringer @ 11:13 (6) Foolishness from ydg (4)-->truthbringer @11:37 (7) Clasic votes for Truthbringer @15:33 (8) Pyrrhuloxia araav (1)--> Truthbringer @15:45 (9) redtooth votes for ydg @16:30 (5) Scaramanga votes for ydg @ 16:42 (6) motbob from abstain-->ydg @17:12 (7) Bockit votes for Truthbringer @ 17:16 (10) Kuja900 votes for ydg @18:00 (8) Lenwe votes for Truthbringer @19:19 (11) BWDero votes for Truthbringer @ 20:37 (12) ydg from truthbringer (11)-->ecomania (3) @23:52 Truthbringer votes for ydg @00:19 (9) ecomania from abstain--> ydg @00:28 (10) storrzerg from araav (0)-->truthbringer @01:13 (12) chaoser from abstain --> ydg @07:55 (11) JeeJee votes for chaoser @08:30 Scamp from abstain -->ydg @09:16 (12) redtooth ydg (11)-->abstain @13:30 GoodWill votes for Truthbringer @15:08 (13) iNfuNdiBuLuM votes Truthbringer @16:54 (14) Foolishness abstains @ 14:20 infundibulum abstains @ 14:40 motbob abstains @ 15:04 Heavonearth abstains @ 15:20 Lenwe abstains @ 19:12 chaoser abstains @ 22:22 ecomania abstains @ 23:43 araav abstain @ 18:28 (next day) Scamp abstains @ 01:09 RoL abstains @ 01:52 Non-Voters: Shikyo Elemenope Fishball vivi57 I messed up the numbers somewhere :O Day 3 + Show Spoiler + I'm disregarding my joke votes Bockit votes BC @00:12 inertinept votes LucasWoJ @02:00 Storrzerg votes Bockit @03:41 Clasic votes LucasWoJ @ 04:10 (2) Pyrr votes BC @ 04:15 (2) Storrzerg from Bockit-->infun @04:25 Pyrr from BC-->LucasWoJ @06:14 (3) Redtooth votes for pyrr @07:55 Foolishness votes for ecomania @08:06 Redtooth abstains from pyrr @08:39 Storrzerg infun-->pyrr @08:46 LucasWoJ votes for chaoser @08:54 ydg votes for ecomania @09:15 (2) GoodWill votes for BC @09:18 (2) pyrr from LucasWoJ (2)-->ecomania @09:26 (3) Scaramanga votes for ecomania @10:03 (4) Chezinu votes for LucasWoJ @11:35 (3) 2nd vote Scaramanga votes for LucasWoJ @ 13:36 (4) BC votes for ecomania @14:46 (5) 2nd vote BC votes for infun @14:46 Pyrr votes for Kuja900 @16:57 BC ecomania (4)-->kuja900 @17:11 (2) 2nd vote BC from infun-->inert @17:11 Heavonearth votes for kuja900 @17:31 (3) iLoveKT votes for ydg @19:32 ilovekt votes for kuja900 @19:32 (4) Scaramanga from LucasWoJ (3)-->kuja900 @20:49 (5) Lenwe votes for kuja900 @21:10 (6) 2nd vote Lenwe votes for falcynn @21:10 2nd vote LucasWoJ votes for kuja900@22:10 (6) Malongo votes for BC @22:19 (3) Malongo votes for BC @22:19 (4) Storrzerg votes kuja900@22:33 (7) Chezinu from lucas-->kuja @23:38 (8) Chezinu 2nd vote ydg @23:38 Chezinu 2nd vote ydg-->BC @23:38 (5) inertinept Lucas-->kuja900 @23:52 (9) inert 2nd vote ecomania @ 23:52 (5) Falcynn vote ecomania @23:52 (6) Falcynn second vote kuja900 @23:52 (10) Foolishness second vote kuja900 @00:34 (11) motbob votes for ecomania @01:16 (7) then (6) at 02:02 motbob votes for BC @ 01:16 (6) then (5) at 02:02 pyrr second vote falcynn @01:40 ecomania votes kuja900 @02:33 (12) inert votes kuja900-->ecomania @10:31 (8) iloveKT votes ecomania @10:57 (9) Bockit second vote BC @13:12 (6) Storrzerg votes ecomania @13:52 (10) Foolishness kuja900 (11)-->chaoser @14:07 (4) motbob votes BC x2 @14:30 (8) pyrr from falcynn-->BC @14:41 (9) Foolishness from chaoser-->ecomania @14:59 (11) BC from inert-->ecomania @ 15:04 (12) infun votes for kuja900 @15:29 (12) infun votes for BC @15:29 (10) BC kuja X2 @16:02 (-1 to ecomania) infun from BC-->faronel @16:13 (after pressure from ecomania's been slightly taken down) Faronel votes for BC @16:18 lenwe votes for kuja900 @19:31 (12) lenwe votes for BC @19:31 (10) ecomania votes for BC @21:11 (13) LucasWoJ from chaoser-->ecomania @22:40 (10) ydg from chaoser-->ecomania @02:23 (11) chaoser abstains @10:53 pyrr abstains @15:15 heavonearth abstains @17:31 motbob abstains @02:02 ecomania abstains second vote @02:33 I was looking a lot of the trends that take place in the voting for the first three days (it took long, so I don't want to do day 4 right now). I was going to write up an analysis of each day and how mafia clearly shifted their focus to protect their players (I stopped marking known mafia red, but look at how they shifted their votes--sometimes cunningly). Based on VOTING PATTERNS ALONE for the first three days, bockit looks somewhat suspicious, as does scaramanga on the first day. However, and again, this is based on voting patterns alone, the following people are appear to be mafia: 1.) infundibulum 2.) chaoser 3.) lenwe 4.) pyrr Pyrr voted quite stupidly and at the worst times which is why he made the list. I would lynch chaoser tonight. | ||
LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
I sent this to Pyrry as well, just my thoughts. Alright here's the grand PM incase I die tonight. GoodWill: Did not vote for ydg (when we killed TruthBringer) at the last second. Although his vote would have not killed ydg, he would've made it closer. Probably not mafia. Although he has not posted at all. Chaoser: Voted for ydg (one of the last to do so). Based on his random posting which has not contributed anything, I suspect him for mafia. Chezinu: Along the same lines as Chaoser, I highly suspect him of being mafia as well. Falcynn: I know you probably think he's mafia, but he hasn't made any suspicious votes besides ydg. He followed up on his ecomania vote yesterday. I still think he might be a blue role. His activity this game does not match up with his previous games as well. I'd try PMing him and see if you can bait him to say anything. At the very least, I'd hold off on killing him now. Storrzerg: I had a very random PM discussion with him, and he seemed townie, although our discussion was not long. He does not seem to follow the voting trend, I'd list him as not mafia at this point. Clasic: Has had very random votes and half the time has not voted at all. Except for the election, I'm assuming all the mafia voted. He has not posted anything. Suspicious, but I'd hold off on killing him for now. Faronel: Has made very few posts. Strikes me more as a townsperson afraid to contribute then a mafia. Could be wrong. Lenwe: Not sure what to think. His votes are non mafia like (but he could be a mafia spreading out the votes). He has made posts in the thread, and has followed up on whatever he said. Has made random accusations throughout the game (Falcynn, BWdero). Seems more townie to me. HeavOnEarth: After the first two days I was certain he was not mafia. Since he has been relatively inactive, I'm thinking he's a blue role. He doesn't want to say anything so he can stay under the radar. I'd try PMing him as well. iLoveKT: Has not made a single post. Based on voting patterns, definitely suspect. L accused him as well (although this was at the same time L accused me and BC). BWdero: Inactive all game. voted for TruthBringer at a crucial time (I think). Has not voted in the past two rounds. more importantly, did not vote during the BC,ecomania,Kuja lynch. This was definitely an important vote, if he was mafia I'd be really suprised that he did not vote. I'd say he's clean for now. Malongo: Made a strange post about how he's not mafia after BC turned up green. I'd suggest you go read it carefully as it might reveal something (I'm not sure though). Did not vote during elections. Voted for TruthBringer. I'm actually going to call him out as the other angel. People say he's a bad player, I think it's true as well, his BC rant was just him being dumb. All game, he has advocated voting rain and has continuously talked about angel and angel saves. That's probably the give away. I'd consider PMing him. This leads me to say that: Bockit: Lynch him over malongo. BC accused them both. I highly doubt that both of them are mafia. It seems more likely Bockit is mafia and jumped on the BC bandwagon after Malongo's post. The only thing is that I still think Bockit is clean (or at least you should wait for lynching him). His votes have nearly all checked out (except for jumping on BC). iNfuNdiBuLuM: Did not vote yesterday. he's another mystery to me, I'd just leave him alone for now. I know I forgot people but whatever. My opinion says to go after Chaoser and Chezinu. The thing is to see if there are going to be bandwagon votes (this is why I thought Kuja was innocent). And btw I'm still sure scarmanga is assassin. Just leave him alone for now. Another key thing is to start PMing people and see if you can bait them or figure anything out. There are definitely good candidates to consider. One other thing to consider based on yesterday's vote, is that the mafia should be spreading out. Based on that fact, there should be mafia under motbob's vote. The only people under there that could be mafia are: iLoveKT and Bockit. (Ecomania is also in that list). I don't think the mafia would let a vote check return 1 under any person. Now that I think about this, iLoveKT and Bockit are probably good lynches. Accusing Bockit is also a good idea because he's somewhat active so you can get him to talk. This is how I knew motbob was guilty after I accused him, based on how he reacted. This may be a good starting point for the next day. | ||
Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
As for my day 3 voting, yeah I fucked up and got baited badly, I explained that earlier and it's just getting more clearer to me what happened. I figured the uprising against BC was naturally occurring but the double votes should have told me otherwise. Chaoser looks especially suspicious day 2, changing between two mafia. ecomania from abstain--> ydg @00:28 (10) storrzerg from araav (0)-->truthbringer @01:13 (12) chaoser from abstain --> ydg @07:55 (11) JeeJee votes for chaoser @08:30 Scamp from abstain -->ydg @09:16 (12) | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
1) no clues against me and my profile is FULL of shit to pull. 2) the reason i voted for ydg was to get on a list and i didn't believe at the time that truthbringer was mafia. if i remember correctly at the time tb was three/four votes ahead so that means FOUR/FIVE MAFIA would have to gang vote ydg AT THE LAST MINUTE. this means if i was mafia my vote means SHIT if no one else follows. i ain't stupid. I knew it wasn't going to push him over and I didn't believe tb was mafia at the time. so there's vote explained. | ||
LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
Does that sound about right? | ||
Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 14 2009 08:30 LucasWoJ wrote: See, I think that's the vote explained after the fact. I don't think you were thinking when you voted for him. I think you logged onto Tl.net and found a PM from a couple hour earlier in your mailbox from a mafia buddy telling you to vote for ydg. You failed to notice the time stamp, nor did you notice that your vote did not mean much at the time. You joined your IRC channel or MSN chat and were scolded by the other mafia members. You came up with the above story. Does that sound about right? so not only are you accusing me of being mafia you're calling me stupid as well. nice. all you have on me is this one "weird" vote when you have so much clue analysis on everyone else. like i said, i voted for him cause i wanted to be on a list and not have people be like OMG HE ABSTAINED, LIST DODGE!! MAFIAAAAAAAA!! but at the same time didn't think TB was mafia. simple as that. bring some clue analysis against me and we'll talk. | ||
LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
How about you look about at your own behavior (posting style and content) an then take a look at all the clues. Then, write up a post persuading the town that you're mafia. From that post, I will be able to determine whether you're guilty or not. | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 14 2009 08:47 LucasWoJ wrote: y'know what, I have an interesting proposal (take it seriously). How about you look about at your own behavior (posting style and content) an then take a look at all the clues. Then, write up a post persuading the town that you're mafia. From that post, I will be able to determine whether you're guilty or not. why should i do all the work when you've already done it? if you can't find shit to put on me except for one little thing, i have no real need to defend myself. you go on and on about this one little vote which really had no significant impact at all and yet when I challenge you to find a clue link, i mean, we've had 5 days, if i'm mafia i'm bound to be in there somewhere, you can't seem to do it and ask ME to basically to find a way to convince everyone i'm mafia. what about your behavior? troll for a good couple of days. that's a strange thing to do don't you think? it really doesn't help us except cause people to be distracted and not focus on the task at hand, killing reds. pretty counterproductive to the town no? | ||
Faronel
United States658 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 14 2009 10:25 Faronel wrote: I think by that post alone, you're proving that your mafia. You're already resigned to not proving that your innocent. The way you talk seems a bit scummy. how is me digging through stuff to PROVE i'm a mafia PROVE that i'm townie? think about that for a second | ||
Faronel
United States658 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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