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n.DieJokes
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Folca
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On February 25 2009 13:16 AzureEye wrote: It was banned by Kespa ?? | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
Jaedong said in an interview that using queens is tough because of the extra unit you have to micro...and if you think about it, it's hard enough to micro lings, lurkers and scourge as it is; then throw in defilers, and it gets to be really difficult to do anything before you lose half your shit to mass vessels. Queens with their retarded half-second delay are difficult to micro as it is...not to mention no zergs are used to using them. I think it'd be hard for any zerg that doesn't have the kind of handspeed and multitask that JD does. Not to mention, if you've seen JD's recent games, he's been trying various other strange builds that have both failed and like...kinda worked out... | ||
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
 i wanna see some more of that... | ||
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konadora
Singapore66063 Posts
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
And then I read this thread. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On February 25 2009 14:39 n.DieJokes wrote: I thought they would at least keep using queens to push the terran ball in that awkward phase between the time you get your 3rd up and the time you get defilers. I mean of he obviously can do it, why not? I doubt terrans are used to that kind of punishment and its not like you have to go out of your way to get them like ghosts. I mean if he lost once with them that would be one thing... Maybe they started getting raped in practice games but I don't really see how. I do this all the time one Iccup as a delay and I really don't find lurk/ling/queen any more difficult than lurk/ling/defiler It works pretty well, the problem is that even JAEDONG said that it taxed his multitasking skills. Since no one on this forum or generally on the planet besides Bisu has that type of multitasking it makes them obscenely difficult to use in a general setting. Queens + Defilers rape hardcore, they just balance each other out because you have to babysit Lurkers and Defilers with the added need to mess with a Queen. You do need both to play against upper level terran though, Queen on it's own is pretty weak. | ||
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
Hopefully Hyvaa's last game make zergs put a queen and a scrouge just out of enemy visible range on base raids for finishing off lifted burning cc's. Maybe the zergs that don't run in a starleague can spend more time practicing this stuff, and the zergs who are still in can't afford to put new strategies through its paces. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66063 Posts
On February 25 2009 18:09 Badjas wrote: Maybe if Blizzard would remove the casting delay on the queen, it would see more use... just maybe.. Agreed. The casting delay just kills off the desire to use Queens. And the short casting range too >__> | ||
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AzureEye
United States1360 Posts
On February 26 2009 16:34 konadora wrote: Agreed. The casting delay just kills off the desire to use Queens. And the short casting range too >__> Its not that bad. The casting delay feels like its not even 1 full second. The range is quite long imo | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On February 26 2009 17:02 AzureEye wrote: Its not that bad. The casting delay feels like its not even 1 full second. The range is quite long imo If it were a full second, queens would be more useless than infested terrans and scouts combined. It's very short, likely a quarter second? Which in-game translates to quite a long time. It's annoying as hell to use...but that's only one part. The other is if the guy is particularly on his toes, that casting delay can be enough time for him to rush in and kill it. That happened to Jaedong in his game against Hwasin, and he lost one of his two queens that way...it died before getting its ensnare off. | ||
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