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On December 27 2024 08:55 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote: I feel like I am already very dumb, cause I give stupid reddit retard take on this forum, but somehow I feel like I can't even understand how dumb this take is :S, am i the only one to feel this way? :D
I feel like most people will read this screenshot with a sample size of 1 person and mspaint "FACTS" written, and assume op is trolling lmao
Not exactly robust data analysis done here.
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On December 27 2024 08:02 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2024 00:09 XenOsky wrote:same player, piloting both races, z is 300 mmr higher, even tho protoss is supposed to be similar to terran :p Your facts are funny as fck. HEY PROTOSS IS HARDER THAN ZERG. Strudel highest matchup WR is pvz.
No wonder ... In this mu he plays at a much lower level (on average much weaker opponents). But Hey we don't blame you ... Z king of course Is sponsor of "omg ZvP Is hard" ... when every morally honest Z player know its not.
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786 mmr difference (according to the calculator) ^_______.________^
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On December 27 2024 18:56 Giovanni8 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2024 08:02 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On December 26 2024 00:09 XenOsky wrote:same player, piloting both races, z is 300 mmr higher, even tho protoss is supposed to be similar to terran :p Your facts are funny as fck. HEY PROTOSS IS HARDER THAN ZERG. Strudel highest matchup WR is pvz. No wonder ... In this mu he plays at a much lower level (on average much weaker opponents). But Hey we don't blame you ... Z king of course Is sponsor of "omg ZvP Is hard" ... when every morally honest Z player know its not.
smart man
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On December 26 2024 23:06 TMNT wrote:Checked again his IDs today and now his P is almost 1900, so maybe not that big of a difference. Show nested quote +From my personal experience(main P), both my Z and T are about 300 mmr lower, and at the same level relative to each other. With same playstyle, but context of "I hardly ever play offrace, and also watch much less pro games without a P" So kinda weird seeing that much of a difference here Playstyles are probably a factor. The guy is low A Terran so his mechanics is likely "completed", which means his mechanics is good enough to transition to Zerg without any problems (and good enough for P without saying). On the other hand if you're a main P player, unless you're A/S rank, you're more likely to suffer from mechanics deficiency when playing as T and especially Z. "P easiest race" is sometimes a misconception. It's only easiest in the sense that if you start playing the game for the first time, it's easiest for you to learn/gain mmr. But when you have mastered the mechanics side of BW and have a decent understanding of the strategic side, and you go back to learn another race, it's a different story.
smart man x2
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On December 27 2024 22:48 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:786 mmr difference (according to the calculator) ^_______.________^
Good find LUCKY_NOOB! I am certain he never left games right away. Protoss is so hard, he can be A with one race and then E with toss.
Protoss is just so difficult, dragoons are stupid af. Storm can miss unlike tanks, and although lurkers can miss z doesn't need to do anything. Reavers require 400 apm, that only pros can do. Zealots are the most micro intensive unit in the game, if you just a-click them they will get kited
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Protoss is the hardest race confirmed. I'm glad such bold science is being done.
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I've always thought Zerg was the easiest race to climb the ladder with. That doesn't mean it's the easiest race overall or anything though. It just simply is the easiest race to climb ladders with.
To win tournaments at any competitive level is very hard for Zerg (or any race) and to get like top 100 on the ladder is crazy hard but with so many Protoss players on ladder and with how short Zerg games can be, it's clearly the easiest race to climb ladders with in general.
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for his zerg account i went and counted the number of wins he got from opponents leaving at the start, giving him free points, ans it was 33 games. He left 1 at the start himself. so 32 games worth of free points.
For his toss account he had to leave 8 games very close to one another, 6 of which in a row, because his opponent was a hacker. He also did get about the 31 free wins, but having to leave 7 times more than on his zerg account already accounts for the difference in points.
debunked?
(recounted toss free wins)
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