Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread - Page 148

On August 03 2024 16:18 Cyro wrote:
With the latest version of the game they have quietly added a rootkit into the game files - it tried to use the game update to install on my system without any warning. The game won't launch in any capacity without it.

We have been trying to contact FG about it on discord, reddit and their support site since before the EA launch (4 full working days) and we have a feedback thread about it on discord, but nobody who works at FG has responded to anything. This whole thing has been incredibly disappointing.

On August 03 2024 17:00 Agh wrote:


Yeah it brought a few other things too.
personal favorite:
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Best part about it is that it's set as a flag so you have to quit the application.
Personally I think it's a little unnecessary for a f2p title, but that's just me.

Also they've gone to great lengths in an attempt to prevent any type of macros including basic 1:1's. You can still circumvent this, but it is highly annoying, especially given the subpar keybind customization currently offered.


Most of these things are in the vein of anti-cheat. While I am very much for it, the way the industry has moved towards the insistence of the forced standard for always on implementation of this is not the way. It should be opt-in but required for competitive or any type of multiplayer.
The really sad part is one day someone is going to take advantage of one of these 'protective' systems for malicious purposes, and then shortly after the community will just shrug it off and be complacent again.

These have been discussed before on the server, but to tidy things up a bit and have them more in one place:

On top of the mountain of privacy and autonomy concerns, there have been many major security incidents with ring 0 access to consumer's PC's. These have always happened regularly and always will, it's just a fundamental problem with allowing such deep and unvetted access to a computer system.

Recently of greatest note there was the Crowdstrike disaster where a mistake in an automatic update caused the windows kernel to crash resulting in many (hundreds of thousands, millions?) of machines being unable to boot without skilled manual intervention in safe mode.

Recently there was a breach with an Asian MMO (Genshin Impact) where a backdoor opened by their ring-0 anticheat was used to infect a large chunk of their players with ransomware malware.

Recently there was an issue with a CSGO league where a rogue employee used their ring 0 access to install invisible and impractical-to-remove cryptocurrency mining malware onto every PC which used their software.

For many reasons including but not limited to the above, a significant number of players will not consent to ring 0 access of their PC by certain (if any) third party software. Because of this, Stormgate has - retroactively and with no reasonable warning or communication - become unplayable.

I'm also concerned of course about all of those who aren't highly informed about cybersecurity and don't know what they're getting into when handing over ring 0 permissions, intentionally or otherwise.

This never happened in Starcraft 2, a game which did not require ring 0 access. I run a small RTS community and played SC2 for thousands of hours in the campaign, co-op and custom modes without ever encountering a single cheater there. Nobody else in my community ever did either, i asked.

What we did encounter was basic toxicity like players raging, writing racist things and destroying their allies buildings - but this has nothing to do with deep access to your computer and is just as much of a problem in Stormgate (that is, not much of one but an occasional annoyance).

None of Stormgate's competitors, past or present, require ring 0 access to your PC. Not Warcraft 1/2/3, Starcraft 1/2, any version of AOE, Planetary Annihilation, Grey Goo or any other similar game to my knowledge.

On August 03 2024 08:47 KingzTig wrote:

It's a staple to pay a discounted price, for early access to a full priced game, that is under development.

whats the last game that has a paid for EA, for a F2P multiplayer game?

On August 03 2024 11:19 Waxangel wrote:
Looks like they have Twitch front page promotion so it's getting quite a few viewers. I wonder how many people who stumble upon it are fellow boomers who have Tastosis nostalgia

On August 03 2024 12:46 Agh wrote:
Not sure why Frost Giant would agree to this. It's literally negative publicity for the game in its current state.


Still don't know what is more impressive: the botched napkin math for the economy or spammable offensive photon overcharge.

On August 03 2024 18:38 CicadaSC wrote:

ah, i was wondering what was going on when i saw it suddenly drop from 10k viewers to 3k

On August 03 2024 21:26 Cyro wrote:


I heard there was issue with 3 ads being played in the middle of a game, great move by Twitch

On August 03 2024 18:03 Gorsameth wrote:
Mechabellum?

On August 03 2024 21:46 ETisME wrote:

not a F2P multiplayer game

Like many other great multiplayer games such as CSGO and Starcraft 2, Mechabellum is intended go into Free to Play when all of the systems are ready. Our goal is that this will be at the time of the full release.

On August 04 2024 06:10 SoleSteeler wrote:
I'm about to finish the first winner semi-final - the bug sucked indeed.

The best series was definitely Theory vs. Migi. Clem vs. TOP was also decent.

I assume Frost Giant will have a balance patch at the latest by Aug 13th for day 1 of full EA. Seems like making morph cores not able to attack workers/buildings would be nice. (Similar to the celestial overcharge ability). Also not sure why it needs to be so strong - should be as weak as an imp/BOB.