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On June 07 2024 23:49 sandroba wrote:
Mocsta, what are the townie things about scott that are giving you mixed feelings? that's a fair pull up
Mixed was a poor word choice for being in the middle/neutral
Certainly I don't view his early game as scummy as what others have pointed out. I get setup talk is more.often scum yet this game does have unusual setup and in my mind that balances out.
The rain agreement to me is also a minor point. Yes perhaps he is scum and just seeking to bullshit and close discussion or could equally have wanted a reputable opinion of a whisperer
I concede if he is not a whisperer than it's not in his favourz and by odds that 12 of 13 or what ever headcount is.. so I can see after this response I'm.stixking up for a very very low chance outcome
His end of filter I was surprised by.. I thought he shifted away from mason. So basically I don't have a town tell as I was too hedged on alternative worlds where could just be a whisperer which is too low odds to assume a defense point
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On June 08 2024 00:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax mafia
Only on my days off
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On June 08 2024 00:06 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 23:49 sandroba wrote:
Mocsta, what are the townie things about scott that are giving you mixed feelings? that's a fair pull up Mixed was a poor word choice for being in the middle/neutral Certainly I don't view his early game as scummy as what others have pointed out. I get setup talk is more.often scum yet this game does have unusual setup and in my mind that balances out. The rain agreement to me is also a minor point. Yes perhaps he is scum and just seeking to bullshit and close discussion or could equally have wanted a reputable opinion of a whisperer I concede if he is not a whisperer than it's not in his favourz and by odds that 12 of 13 or what ever headcount is.. so I can see after this response I'm.stixking up for a very very low chance outcome His end of filter I was surprised by.. I thought he shifted away from mason. So basically I don't have a town tell as I was too hedged on alternative worlds where could just be a whisperer which is too low odds to assume a defense point
Can you answer Marvs question
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On June 08 2024 00:06 sandroba wrote:
Basically if the initial question wasn't fake, definitely what rayn answered is not enough to address the question.
If it is fake you are either doing it to create discussion and you don't really care about it, or you are trying to blend in not create discussion.
If you intension is the former which could be a townie agenda, you wouldn't try to cut it short when you got the discussion going, which was what scott did. It makes more sense it was the latter which points to mafia agenda. yeah I get this now and accept it's the most likely options
I was too focused on a third option which is too low odds (i.e. genuine role query)
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On June 08 2024 00:10 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 00:06 Mocsta wrote:On June 07 2024 23:49 sandroba wrote:
Mocsta, what are the townie things about scott that are giving you mixed feelings? that's a fair pull up Mixed was a poor word choice for being in the middle/neutral Certainly I don't view his early game as scummy as what others have pointed out. I get setup talk is more.often scum yet this game does have unusual setup and in my mind that balances out. The rain agreement to me is also a minor point. Yes perhaps he is scum and just seeking to bullshit and close discussion or could equally have wanted a reputable opinion of a whisperer I concede if he is not a whisperer than it's not in his favourz and by odds that 12 of 13 or what ever headcount is.. so I can see after this response I'm.stixking up for a very very low chance outcome His end of filter I was surprised by.. I thought he shifted away from mason. So basically I don't have a town tell as I was too hedged on alternative worlds where could just be a whisperer which is too low odds to assume a defense point Can you answer Marvs question I don't know what is outstanding?
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Of course scott could also be blue so he‘d be more cautious in the fights he picks and come across as evasive.
I‘d be ok with him or Kelsier as of now. Willing to see what marv, rayn sandro cook up.
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On June 08 2024 00:12 Vivax wrote:
Of course scott could also be blue so he‘d be more cautious in the fights he picks and come across as evasive.
I‘d be ok with him or Kelsier as of now. Willing to see what marv, rayn sandro cook up.
What about me
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On June 08 2024 00:12 Vivax wrote:
Of course scott could also be blue so he‘d be more cautious in the fights he picks and come across as evasive.
I‘d be ok with him or Kelsier as of now. Willing to see what marv, rayn sandro cook up.
1.) Sandro has already cooked.
2.) what’s scummy about Kelsier?
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On June 08 2024 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 00:12 Vivax wrote:
Of course scott could also be blue so he‘d be more cautious in the fights he picks and come across as evasive.
I‘d be ok with him or Kelsier as of now. Willing to see what marv, rayn sandro cook up. What about me
You‘re a townread. Probably that somehow bothers you because you don‘t want to be so easily read after the burn of last game so you prefer to act uncooperatively for shits and giggles.
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On June 08 2024 00:14 AlphaZero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 00:12 Vivax wrote:
Of course scott could also be blue so he‘d be more cautious in the fights he picks and come across as evasive.
I‘d be ok with him or Kelsier as of now. Willing to see what marv, rayn sandro cook up. 1.) Sandro has already cooked. 2.) what’s scummy about Kelsier?
Kelsier's entire filter tbh
On June 07 2024 20:39 Kelsi3r wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 20:28 Trfel wrote:
Kelsi3r, different points. I'm mostly interested in you townreading AlphaZero and rsoultin for something you don't agree with. Unless you have a legit reason for doing this, it doesn't seem like a sensible take to me. I asked about why you didn't acknowledge Vivax's post, which still interests me, but is a bit of a different topic. That said, what's wrong with sharing thoughts on something but also asking if there is an alternative explanation I am missing? Isn't this a common approach?
Honestly it feels like you are deflecting by attacking my questioning method instead of actually discussing the main point? You said you answered this but I looked at your filter and I don't see this explained at all? I find it strange i have to explain this again but fine. On my first read through i didnt even clock that scott has responded to himself but alpha caught it and my reaction was like "ah nice catch" , rsoultin had the same reaction as me. Felt like a good early brain sync . Give them an early town nod and move on.
The first sentence of above post is terrible mindset-wise. The 'I love that shit' is terrible diligence-wise.
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He's dragging himself along at most would be my read.
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On June 07 2024 23:18 sandroba wrote:
So far I like rayn and trfel as town.
So what was the point of your comment on Trfel?!
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Also, are we not claiming who is whispered with who?
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On June 08 2024 00:25 marvellosity wrote:So what was the point of your comment on Trfel?!
Although I’m quite okay with the Scott stuff you posted. And you ended on the same conclusion as me with Trfel, just didn’t understand why you posted what you did about him at that stage without reading further. But I guess that’s just accusing you of not being me.
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On June 08 2024 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
Also, are we not claiming who is whispered with who?
We should. There is no reason not to especilly without mayoral election.
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Noone masoned me and ism sad because i think everyone has posted. 
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On June 08 2024 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Noone masoned me and ism sad because i think everyone has posted.
Same gurl
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Just for fun, each group in no particular order:
Rayn
Trfel
Oats
Kelsier
sand
Alpha
Rsoultin
Vivax
Mocsta
Scott
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^the line of no clue
Slam
DMB
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On June 07 2024 19:20 Mocsta wrote:
Trfel prepare to be disappointed
Although I did read as you predicted. Yet not much to analyze
You improved. Not sure why the tone changed but it did. And I like that rain observed at same time.i did
Rsoultin I'm back to neutral
Buzziest read to me is kelsier and alphazero
I don't find alphazero insight that great. I.e. Scott defense was adequate to me
And. Alpha is reading to immediately nitpick which I can't relate to
I'm looking for scum.and town. Just weird so far
His tactic of flag was a nice touch though. I will steal that for future
On June 07 2024 20:11 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 20:05 Kelsi3r wrote:On June 07 2024 20:02 Mocsta wrote:
How about why isn't rsoultin scum? Is she? Whats the case ? You have my vote now ##vote: kelsi3rFor being intentionally obtuse . This shouldn't be this hard mate
After re-reading the page before, this makes sense to me.
On June 07 2024 21:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
Good morning
I am suprised that there are so few pages to catch up, was expexting more.
Ehhh... This is like a "I don't know what else to write"
On June 07 2024 21:45 Vivax wrote:
I‘d say that marv has likely rolled mafia based on his recent non-posts
I was going to give him another 6 or so hours, but yes - if marv rolls mafia he's super quiet.
On June 07 2024 22:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 13:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 07 2024 13:48 rsoultin wrote:
Truffle thinking this is about arguments. Well I was kinda hoping for a rayn follow-up but tbf you were concentrating on more important things so I'll just pout a little in the corner instead.
Rayn, I am very, very happy that your 'Truffle is having fun' wasn't a townread. That's how I initially read it and I was like...hmm. The calling people stupid thing was also not greeeat but idk as part of a joke it's not as weird for a truffle.
Regarding the oats thing, I kinda get what Viva's putting down as an early read. It's very derpy derpy fuck you which feels nice and relaxed to me. I'm not quite sure why it's significant to you, though? The jump on the not reading the OP comment felt...ick. Very low-hanging fruit. What's the mafia motivation for just declaring you're not reading it? This, Trfel, is why i gave town points for rsoultin. It would be very easy read for mafia to make (even on a partner), just because "happy to play = town", which ofc is bullshit. Now based on MY view of your "relationship with rsoultin in mafia games", she might have even made that read as mafia. Let’s be honest, it would be a downright blunder for maf-rsoultin to have done that.
I liked rayn's point - marv agrees with it also. *noted*
On June 07 2024 23:21 sandroba wrote:
I actually like k3lsier too, 0 fucks given on mocsta interaction, seems very townie to me
See I disagree with this.
On June 07 2024 23:41 Vivax wrote:
I don‘t like how AZ went redflag mode on Scott only to conveniently forget about it and start gunning at Mocsta.
If you‘re going to look that convinced on someone why switch priorities so easily ?
Although we did talk about the "red flags" weren't scum reading per se, I like this observation.
On June 08 2024 00:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2024 12:57 scott31337 wrote:On June 07 2024 12:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you think of the situation regarding you scott?
Do you get Alpha's argument? I think it's helping to drive discussion. I kind of get it, but, it really was a question for someone more experienced to give a point of view of how it helps. That's all I was looking for. I liked what you said and it made sense. I thought Alphazero was doing the red flags to call me scummy at first. This is a weak answer imo. I'm not a good judge of Scotts character imo but all of this is very weasel-y and evasive. His inner bully didn't awaken from being double prodded, so maybe it doesn*t exist altogether because it's something inherent to townies. If I got bombarded with red flags I'd be more inquisitive I think.
My memory isn't the best - but it was more flagging the post then "Scott is mafia with red flags."
Wouldn't lynch order
raynpelikoneet - townie inquizzitive vibes. Hopefully we can figure out this game like last one and smoke out the mafs.
Vivax - feels like his townie game too.
marvellosity - feels like usual townie game. Like I mentioned, super quiet as mafia.
Mocsta - I see him as town searching around - he seems to have an accurate read on me.
Trfel - Feels townie as well. I'll be unvoting him.
rsoultin - Even in obs I have a terrible time reading this person. Two people with more experience say elsewhise.
Oatsmaster - I could be convinced, but is playing a little different.
Could lynch order:
Kelsi3r - His back and forths with Mocsta was pretty bad when Mocsta seemed genuine to me.
Alakaslam - nothing of value contributed
die_meatbaby - not enough info
sandroba - Stayed on the Mason bandwagon after reading the thread - read of Kelsi3r and others seem bad
AlphaZero - I don't think this is HF. Maybe DP? But seems to be a experienced player shitting up the thread. Hinted at me then went after Mocsta
So I'm unvoting Trfel and voting for Kelsi3r.
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On June 08 2024 00:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2024 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 08 2024 00:12 Vivax wrote:
Of course scott could also be blue so he‘d be more cautious in the fights he picks and come across as evasive.
I‘d be ok with him or Kelsier as of now. Willing to see what marv, rayn sandro cook up. What about me You‘re a townread. Probably that somehow bothers you because you don‘t want to be so easily read after the burn of last game so you prefer to act uncooperatively for shits and giggles.
No I meant about solving the game
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