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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 07 2024 14:21 GMT
#281
On June 07 2024 23:15 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 23:13 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:07 Mocsta wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:01 AlphaZero wrote:
I think there is a very good chance mocsta is mafia.

There is a lot of bluster and attacking players which on the surface could look town aligned , but it doesn’t seem like he is genuinely trying to determine alignments to me.

Lol

Talk about gaslighting

Call me mafia and ignore *my* questions to elucidate

Wonder who is more likely to gaslight between town and mafia.....


I gave you an answer. Your whole approach has been nitpick-y which is why I found it funny that you called me out on it. (And I don’t even agree that my post was nitpicking, I raised a valid point)

Unless you think we should just argue back and forth about whether you did or did not nitpick.? In a most nitpicky fashion?


Edit: typos
no I don't want to argue back and forth

And would assume.its making overall town environment worse than better given no one has endorsed

Frankly I'm still cautious of you as I assume you are of me

I just accept for now this is at an impasse

Could it be possible.both of us are defiant in what we believe are valid points. Maybe. I'm not closed to this. Although I don't find that to be a town v town tell either. Hence why I'm ok to leave this alone for time being

Is there anyone you are interested in my thoughts on (other than trfel or kelsier)?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 14:21 GMT
#282
On June 07 2024 23:11 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 13:32 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 07 2024 12:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you think of the situation regarding you scott?
Do you get Alpha's argument?


It’s pretty enjoyable to be called alpha. Also accurate.

😉

Is Alpha a known smurf? This post reads like something palmar would post.

No he wouldn’t
No gg, No skill.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 07 2024 14:21 GMT
#283
I actually like k3lsier too, 0 fucks given on mocsta interaction, seems very townie to me
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 14:24 GMT
#284
On June 07 2024 23:17 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 23:08 marvellosity wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:07 Mocsta wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:01 AlphaZero wrote:
I think there is a very good chance mocsta is mafia.

There is a lot of bluster and attacking players which on the surface could look town aligned , but it doesn’t seem like he is genuinely trying to determine alignments to me.

Lol

Talk about gaslighting

Call me mafia and ignore *my* questions to elucidate

Wonder who is more likely to gaslight between town and mafia.....

That’s not what gaslighting is
off topic but it is in the basis of telling me I'm wrong and then I ask for more saying I'm too stupid to get it or lazy or whatever

I much prefer his tone on most recent post since this so don't intend to talk about this comment any further. Just sought to stand my ground on a topic that matters in real life. No worries if you still disagree.

Is your top scum read still kelseir
No gg, No skill.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 07 2024 14:25 GMT
#285
On June 07 2024 21:36 AlphaZero wrote:
I find it funny that mocsta called me out for needlessly nitpicking before nitpicking everything about kelsier's entry post that wasn't bad at all.

I find his entrance to be forced, like he is trying too hard to find something scummy.

I am interested in why truffles thinks he doesn't want to lynch mocsta today?

Is it because Mocsta sheeped your push?

I like this point from AZero, mocsta entrance does look a bit forced
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 07 2024 14:25 GMT
#286
On June 07 2024 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
Happy Friday!

The timing! Lol!!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 07 2024 14:26 GMT
#287
On June 07 2024 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 22:23 marvellosity wrote:
On June 07 2024 15:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 07 2024 15:47 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 07 2024 14:58 Trfel wrote:
Okay so it was the former. Still though I have a hard time understanding Oatsmaster's posts..... Idk maybe he's just town because his posting looks really awful but I don't think he would do that as mafia because he knows better and can do better? Which is a pretty darn stupid argument but it's the best I have?


On June 07 2024 15:03 Trfel wrote:
Like the part I don't get most is that he really really really didn't interact with anyone or get involved. Even when I tried to draw him out a bit. Why come and post in a way that's not productive or interactive? It just looks bad. Which is actually why I think he may be town because of it, it's kinda wifom, but mafia generally isn't going to make themselves look bad for no reason. I think he might be town and just not care that much.


I agree with this analysis, but I don't see how this can co-exist with Trfel finding Vivax's vibe read on oats as weird.

To me, this is a protracted version of the same read.

I'm interested to see what you think of Vivax's read now trfel.

yes, agreed.

I think i know who you are.

Sharing is pro town

Thinking HF.

No it is conversion
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 07 2024 14:27 GMT
#288
On June 07 2024 22:04 Vivax wrote:
Trfel is kinda off, reads a bit like he is forcing himself to be more sociable but also argumentative than usual still townie.

He‘s sort of complaining that I have a tr on Oats ig? That‘s really tragic.

Mocsta, mate 🧉
In uprising against the oppression of the British as usual

It's different I agree, but I'm willing to say it's in a town favored direction
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 07 2024 14:28 GMT
#289
On June 07 2024 23:21 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 23:15 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:13 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:07 Mocsta wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:01 AlphaZero wrote:
I think there is a very good chance mocsta is mafia.

There is a lot of bluster and attacking players which on the surface could look town aligned , but it doesn’t seem like he is genuinely trying to determine alignments to me.

Lol

Talk about gaslighting

Call me mafia and ignore *my* questions to elucidate

Wonder who is more likely to gaslight between town and mafia.....


I gave you an answer. Your whole approach has been nitpick-y which is why I found it funny that you called me out on it. (And I don’t even agree that my post was nitpicking, I raised a valid point)

Unless you think we should just argue back and forth about whether you did or did not nitpick.? In a most nitpicky fashion?


Edit: typos
no I don't want to argue back and forth

And would assume.its making overall town environment worse than better given no one has endorsed

Frankly I'm still cautious of you as I assume you are of me

I just accept for now this is at an impasse

Could it be possible.both of us are defiant in what we believe are valid points. Maybe. I'm not closed to this. Although I don't find that to be a town v town tell either. Hence why I'm ok to leave this alone for time being

Is there anyone you are interested in my thoughts on (other than trfel or kelsier)?


Yes. Scott.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22143 Posts
June 07 2024 14:35 GMT
#290
Mocsta is town imo.

I like the original argument on scott the most so far. Sometimes a question can be too generic and harmless on the surface.

Kelsier‘s worst was the I love that shit part because of the hyperbole + nonchalant word mix having a sour taste together.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 07 2024 14:37 GMT
#291
On June 07 2024 23:28 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 23:21 Mocsta wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:15 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:13 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:07 Mocsta wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:01 AlphaZero wrote:
I think there is a very good chance mocsta is mafia.

There is a lot of bluster and attacking players which on the surface could look town aligned , but it doesn’t seem like he is genuinely trying to determine alignments to me.

Lol

Talk about gaslighting

Call me mafia and ignore *my* questions to elucidate

Wonder who is more likely to gaslight between town and mafia.....


I gave you an answer. Your whole approach has been nitpick-y which is why I found it funny that you called me out on it. (And I don’t even agree that my post was nitpicking, I raised a valid point)

Unless you think we should just argue back and forth about whether you did or did not nitpick.? In a most nitpicky fashion?


Edit: typos
no I don't want to argue back and forth

And would assume.its making overall town environment worse than better given no one has endorsed

Frankly I'm still cautious of you as I assume you are of me

I just accept for now this is at an impasse

Could it be possible.both of us are defiant in what we believe are valid points. Maybe. I'm not closed to this. Although I don't find that to be a town v town tell either. Hence why I'm ok to leave this alone for time being

Is there anyone you are interested in my thoughts on (other than trfel or kelsier)?


Yes. Scott.
I'm more mixed on him than I recalled to be fair

After a filter read I didn't recognize all his posts relate to the mason stuff.

Early game I was ok with the question as could just be a guy that got a whisper role and then next couple posts are in response to queries.. overall to me indifferent at that point

But that mason talk continues when some other avenues started to open up makes me is a point of caution for me

I will be paying attention to next 24hrs as i want to see more opinions outside of mason stuff
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22143 Posts
June 07 2024 14:41 GMT
#292
I don‘t like how AZ went redflag mode on Scott only to conveniently forget about it and start gunning at Mocsta.

If you‘re going to look that convinced on someone why switch priorities so easily ?
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 07 2024 14:42 GMT
#293
On June 07 2024 23:41 Vivax wrote:
I don‘t like how AZ went redflag mode on Scott only to conveniently forget about it and start gunning at Mocsta.

If you‘re going to look that convinced on someone why switch priorities so easily ?


Did I forget about it though?
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 07 2024 14:49 GMT
#294
Mocsta, what are the townie things about scott that are giving you mixed feelings?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22143 Posts
June 07 2024 14:51 GMT
#295
On June 07 2024 23:42 AlphaZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 23:41 Vivax wrote:
I don‘t like how AZ went redflag mode on Scott only to conveniently forget about it and start gunning at Mocsta.

If you‘re going to look that convinced on someone why switch priorities so easily ?


Did I forget about it though?


I tend to keep some room for doubt in my own interpretation while you seemed very convinced. Doesn‘t look like you are based on the followup.

Since I‘ll be working overnight, I‘ll give the game a read and place my vote.
AlphaZero
Profile Joined June 2024
Korea (South)759 Posts
June 07 2024 14:54 GMT
#296
On June 07 2024 23:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 23:42 AlphaZero wrote:
On June 07 2024 23:41 Vivax wrote:
I don‘t like how AZ went redflag mode on Scott only to conveniently forget about it and start gunning at Mocsta.

If you‘re going to look that convinced on someone why switch priorities so easily ?


Did I forget about it though?


I tend to keep some room for doubt in my own interpretation while you seemed very convinced. Doesn‘t look like you are based on the followup.

Since I‘ll be working overnight, I‘ll give the game a read and place my vote.


It’s obvious that I’m thinking about Scott if I’m trying to get no stats position on him as soon as he provides that opportunity.

Come on vivax, keep up.
"AlphaZero: Four Hours to World Class from a Standing Start"
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 07 2024 15:01 GMT
#297
The thing about scott is that the initial question already seems fake, but the follow-up about being satisfied with rayn's answer to the question doesn't seem like something that could be genuine, it looks like something to say when you are hoping to put a close to a line of questioning.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22143 Posts
June 07 2024 15:05 GMT
#298
On June 07 2024 12:57 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2024 12:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you think of the situation regarding you scott?
Do you get Alpha's argument?


I think it's helping to drive discussion. I kind of get it, but, it really was a question for someone more experienced to give a point of view of how it helps. That's all I was looking for. I liked what you said and it made sense.

I thought Alphazero was doing the red flags to call me scummy at first.


This is a weak answer imo.

I'm not a good judge of Scotts character imo but all of this is very weasel-y and evasive.
His inner bully didn't awaken from being double prodded, so maybe it doesn*t exist altogether because it's something inherent to townies.

If I got bombarded with red flags I'd be more inquisitive I think.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2024 15:05 GMT
#299
Vivax mafia
No gg, No skill.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 07 2024 15:06 GMT
#300
Basically if the initial question wasn't fake, definitely what rayn answered is not enough to address the question.
If it is fake you are either doing it to create discussion and you don't really care about it, or you are trying to blend in not create discussion.
If you intension is the former which could be a townie agenda, you wouldn't try to cut it short when you got the discussion going, which was what scott did. It makes more sense it was the latter which points to mafia agenda.
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