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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17321 Posts
On September 02 2022 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm flying tonight so I won't be around much for the next 18 hours or so but I'll try and stay caught up reading the thread. I'll have the previously promised thoughts on vivax/dandel and some thoughts on tubesock/mattchew when I'm back at my computer. Holy shit where you going, Japan? Korea? To USA or Canada from something like that? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17321 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17321 Posts
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CopCake
4378 Posts
I am reading Koshi's filter and he really wanted rels' ass but imo that would be way too obvious for mafia. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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CopCake
4378 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43179 Posts
Quick question though, has there been any claims since HF's "i will protect Koshi"? | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On August 31 2022 11:55 Rels wrote: Let's see who's left. I would vote Vivax over Tube dec and Mattchew too, even though I don't have a strong read on them. Just because they have tried more. Chez lol. I've never been able to read him. All game you talked about slam and then is vivax and his friends. Elaborate? #vote: rels | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43179 Posts
- Holyflare makes a point. If he believes in that point why does his vote never move? Looking from the post HF is absolutely certain that makes Rels mafia, he continues posting to the thread for an hour, talking about Tubesock???? - Probably the only good point Rels made in the game so far. I don't get this thought process from HF at all: I think it's a townie way to shut down a potential future wagon on Koshi. Doesn't mean anything for MZ or Koshi's points on MZ though (although it kinda implies you think Koshi's points are weird or have no merit which I disagree with). Oh wait you mean it's supposed to imply MZ was townie last time and not that Koshi being weird makes Koshi townie??? Ah, yeah, seems I misread. I retract my townie points on you then :D [...]Now that I know what Rayn actually meant with his post and he wasn't defending Koshi, it did trend slightly down and I think I agree with the rest of Matt's points (a lot of names thrown out etc). This is just simply super weird. The underlined is exactly what i said. So i get townie points for townreading Koshi for his case (i said his thought process seems legit). I don't understand what i said about MZ should change on his read on me. Then he says rayn "wasn't defending Koshi" which is already a very weird way to put it because there is nothing to "defend" there. Then i lose my townpoints because i wasn't saying Koshi is being weird??? Then this thing ends. Like... just that's it, apparently rayn in HF's mind townread Koshi for no reason and didn't get townpoints for his read after all, so HF just doesn't care. I dunno, Rels didn't seem to quite manage to explain this properly. But look at those quotes about the situation, how does the whole string of quotes make sense as thought process? Other than that though, Rels doesn't look very good. Some of his "rantish" posts about getting lynched as town D1 because he doesn't play well on D1 seem genuine but yeah, there is not much substance in his posts and HF's and Dandel's stuff makes sense. I know Rels brushes this off by "dude he just quoted my every post" and if you just glance at it that's how it looks, but there is this: On August 31 2022 21:45 Dandel Ion wrote: [...] The only player Rels bothers to fake a shred of progression on is Copcake. That's literally it. Nothing on nobody else really means anything to this man. This is pretty much how i felt at that point. Come night 1 there is also this post where he contributes. The reads pretty much start with this: Assuming MZ is town, one of Dandel / Tube is pretty likely to be scum if my remembering of the vote pattern is correct. They were at the right place to create a second town wagon and have an easy EOD1 just letting the rest happen. Will take the time tonight to reread how everthing went. "Assuming this person is this alignment then this is true because _______" is a very shitty way to start progressing reads and Rels should be good enough to not do that as town because he can't POSSIBLY know MZ's alignment FOR SURE if he is town. Yet he has already created a narrative on which players to question. I think Rels is fairly likely to be mafia. Speaking a bit more of HF his best post was that Tubesock should be lynch D2. Tubesock is also very likely mafia: On August 31 2022 13:15 Tubesock wrote: my vote preference is Rels, MZ, Vivax, Chezinu. Then he votes for Deconduo instead. Doesn't even fucking matter what alignment's Rels and MZ are this behaviour 99% sure comes from mafia. Meapak made probably the best post in the game here: On September 01 2022 02:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Man the amount of people who are accepting poor town play bc it's either "just joking" or "they're easy to meta read later" is really frustrating. Vivax is absolutely not worth keeping around, especially compared to rels. Decon can't even pay attention to the thread. Either of these two are better votes than rels. Vivax probably mafia too based on his play (or rather no real play). I don't have anything useful to say about other people. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43179 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
You lost points for your post because I thought you were defending Koshi from being miseliminated based on a previous game's outcome, which in the end was a good look. It turned out you weren't doing that but were talking about MZ, which is sort of doing the same thing as the original point about Koshi but there's a threefold reason why it's a net negative: 1) You're defending MZ against aggression without countering Koshi's points and just using meta which I just don't really like anymore and MZ hadn't even replied yet. 2) You were originally double defending Koshi and propping him up as a townie bastion (at least in my mind) but that disappeared when I actually learned what the sentence was about, so the post kinda just becomes an exercise in "Is this TMI or not?" rather than "This is a meta read that he's using to bolster his original thought". 3) At the time (and still kinda maybe) I thought MZ was mafia so ez ----- points for you. A lot of your post is phrased like a detraction from me, like you're trying to scum read me but then you just jump into calling Rels mafia and Tube mafia lol? Why not just ask me a question about it? Tube is absolutely mafia though. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43179 Posts
I still don't really get your thought process. 1) yeah i did that, although i didn't "defend" him in any way. It was one of the first pages of the game -- it shouldn't make MZ anything. 2) The problem i have here is that if youre telling the truth i would expect town!HF to get into discussion with me about it, that's what this is pretty much about. Since what i know from you, that's what you usually do. 3) I don't know what this means or how it has anything to do with anything? I don't think MZ is mafia. But at least we agree that Tubesock is mafia, that's good for now. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
raynpelikoneet Dandel Ion Rels Jockmcplop CopCake Meapak_Ziphh Alakaslam Chezinu Vivax Tubesock Game is kinda scuffed if this is my reads list lol | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43179 Posts
Actually i tend to explain my town reads way more in detail when i am mafia because people like words and it's easy to get townread that way. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43179 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On September 02 2022 07:37 Holyflare wrote: Mattchew raynpelikoneet Dandel Ion Rels Jockmcplop CopCake Meapak_Ziphh Alakaslam Chezinu Vivax Tubesock Game is kinda scuffed if this is my reads list lol am i your #1 mafia or town? | ||
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