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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51431 Posts
Poll: GSL Season 2 ChampionDark (54) 66% Trap (28) 34% 82 total votes Your vote: GSL Season 2 Champion (Vote): Trap (Vote): Dark
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
Really want Dark to win.
Protoss seems pretty good against Zerg at the moment,Trap will have some well thought out builds and take it 4-2. Should be able to watch it and talk about food with you guys.
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My work schedule got changed and I have an off day tomorrow. Lucky!
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4 years since a crowned zerg, it's time now, Trap has demonstrated great abilities, has a advantageous meta and is backed by a team but still, I believe in Dark.
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It is time for Zerg player to win.
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Can Dark overcome the dreaded Teamhouse Environment?
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On June 21 2019 19:49 Ej_ wrote: Can Dark overcome the dreaded Teamhouse Environment?
Dark choking in finals + teamhouse environment is like an unbeatable super Archon. Does he even stand a chance? It will take his sickest builds for sure. He's going to have to 12-pool every single game to have any shot at all.
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Czech Republic12125 Posts
On June 21 2019 19:49 Ej_ wrote: Can Dark overcome the dreaded Teamhouse Environment? In the China tournament thread it was mentioned there's not even a coach there, not sure how dreaded it is
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On June 21 2019 21:10 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 19:49 Ej_ wrote: Can Dark overcome the dreaded Teamhouse Environment? In the China tournament thread it was mentioned there's not even a coach there, not sure how dreaded it is According to the Jin Air website they still have coaches.
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4-2 Either way Hoping for Trap to win cuz of Protoss Bias Also hoping for Dark to win cuz SKT Bias But seriously if Dark doesn't win tomorrow then he ain't never gonna win a Code S, cuz honestly he could have had a much more accomplished and strong opponent (a.k.a Classic)
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On June 21 2019 23:54 AzAlexZ wrote: 4-2 Either way Hoping for Trap to win cuz of Protoss Bias Also hoping for Dark to win cuz SKT Bias But seriously if Dark doesn't win tomorrow then he ain't never gonna win a Code S, cuz honestly he could have had a much more accomplished and strong opponent (a.k.a Classic)
I honestly don't think Trap is a much weaker opponent for Dark, if weaker at all.
Trap has been playing ridiculously well this tournament. His play is dynamic, his micro and tactics on point. Classic is a much more mechanical and build order based player, which Dark loves to throw wrenches in and turn it into a messy slug fest.
To give an idea of how well Trap has been playing, he just beat Classic, who has had an absolutely monster PvP this entire year and has been considered the best Protoss on the planet this year, and Innovation, a Terran horseman who has been slaughtering Protoss players recently (including stats twice in this tournament).
He also has the full might of his team house behind him...sOs a genius player and Rogue who is part of the Zerg Big 3 along with Dark.
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Trap will overcome being on the wrong side of the PvZ imbalance to win 4-2. None of the games will be particularly enjoyable since PvZ is horrid to watch.
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On June 22 2019 00:26 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 23:54 AzAlexZ wrote: 4-2 Either way Hoping for Trap to win cuz of Protoss Bias Also hoping for Dark to win cuz SKT Bias But seriously if Dark doesn't win tomorrow then he ain't never gonna win a Code S, cuz honestly he could have had a much more accomplished and strong opponent (a.k.a Classic) To give an idea of how well Trap has been playing, he just beat Classic, who has had an absolutely monster PvP this entire year and has been considered the best Protoss on the planet this year, and Innovation, a Terran horseman who has been slaughtering Protoss players recently (including stats twice in this tournament). What part of this looks like slaughter?.
The only significant win he has is against Stats. For some reason everyone forgot that was down to Stats playing like shit not INno playing that well.
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Just another SKT player for Trap to beat.
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On June 22 2019 00:29 Boggyb wrote: Trap will overcome being on the wrong side of the PvZ imbalance to win 4-2. None of the games will be particularly enjoyable since PvZ is horrid to watch. I know you love that role of the token guy complaining about the hardships of Protoss vs Zerg, but the last time ZvP was above 50% in Code S, was 2018 Season 1.
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On June 22 2019 00:30 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2019 00:26 BerserkSword wrote:On June 21 2019 23:54 AzAlexZ wrote: 4-2 Either way Hoping for Trap to win cuz of Protoss Bias Also hoping for Dark to win cuz SKT Bias But seriously if Dark doesn't win tomorrow then he ain't never gonna win a Code S, cuz honestly he could have had a much more accomplished and strong opponent (a.k.a Classic) To give an idea of how well Trap has been playing, he just beat Classic, who has had an absolutely monster PvP this entire year and has been considered the best Protoss on the planet this year, and Innovation, a Terran horseman who has been slaughtering Protoss players recently (including stats twice in this tournament). What part of this looks like slaughter?. The only significant win he has is against Stats. For some reason everyone forgot that was down to Stats playing like shit not INno playing that well.
Admittedly if you only look at offline matches, his TvP is not impressive. But include online events, it's a lot stronger. His TvP winrate has been very high on ladder too (but lol ladder).
Inno himself said he's more comfortable in TvP than in TvZ, which is hard to believe imo
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On June 22 2019 01:11 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2019 00:29 Boggyb wrote: Trap will overcome being on the wrong side of the PvZ imbalance to win 4-2. None of the games will be particularly enjoyable since PvZ is horrid to watch. I know you love that role of the token guy complaining about the hardships of Protoss vs Zerg, but the last time ZvP was above 50% in Code S, was 2018 Season 1. That's because there are like 2.5 good Zerg players in Korea: soO (until the GSL finals), Dark (until the ro4), Rogue (not recently), and Solar (even less recently). Someone else occasionally does something of note like make the ro16 or even ro8 but it is usually flash in the pan.
I feel like if you looked at active pros who had ro4s or better in HotS that you'd find more Protoss than Terran or Zerg. (I'd check but Liquipedia is being weird at the moment)
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On June 22 2019 01:15 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2019 00:30 Fango wrote:On June 22 2019 00:26 BerserkSword wrote:On June 21 2019 23:54 AzAlexZ wrote: 4-2 Either way Hoping for Trap to win cuz of Protoss Bias Also hoping for Dark to win cuz SKT Bias But seriously if Dark doesn't win tomorrow then he ain't never gonna win a Code S, cuz honestly he could have had a much more accomplished and strong opponent (a.k.a Classic) To give an idea of how well Trap has been playing, he just beat Classic, who has had an absolutely monster PvP this entire year and has been considered the best Protoss on the planet this year, and Innovation, a Terran horseman who has been slaughtering Protoss players recently (including stats twice in this tournament). What part of this looks like slaughter?. The only significant win he has is against Stats. For some reason everyone forgot that was down to Stats playing like shit not INno playing that well. Admittedly if you only look at offline matches, his TvP is not impressive. But include online events, it's a lot stronger. His TvP winrate has been very high on ladder too (but lol ladder). Inno himself said he's more comfortable in TvP than in TvZ, which is hard to believe imo Thing is INno has been murdering ladder and online events since forever. But he's still had massive slumps when it comes on offline. Look at all of last year (and most of this year) for example.
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