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Just got back home from work fuck me nine ways to sunday
going to read up on ruxxar as I promised. also think we should still lynch disfo
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ruxxar:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix ok starts off pretty much sprinting out of the gate, calling calix scum let’s see where the leads to On May 20 2019 06:54 ruXxar wrote:
@rayn did your opinion on calix change or what? asks rayn if his opinion changes, but like 30 posts ago rayn was ranting about how Calix was mafia? not sure what the point of this jab was TBH.. doesn’t look like he follows it up either On May 20 2019 15:50 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up. You dont like my entry post but seem just entirely fine with calix list post. Of course you do when he calls you town lmao kinda omgusy defense towards bugs here On May 20 2019 16:42 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:50 ruXxar wrote:On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up. You dont like my entry post but seem just entirely fine with calix list post. Of course you do when he calls you town lmao Your reaction to resistance on your vote vs Calix's reaction are pretty worlds apart. Hell, even the posts themselves are pretty different. When someone cites another post as part of their rationale in a way that makes sense, and manage to do this very consistently, I find it less likely they are scum. You didn't do that, did you? Now, what's odd is that you are calling me out for calling one list post bad, but not the other. You want me to look away from your scumminess at someone else...who according to you, did a very similar thing to you? Anyway, enough about you. The choices I'm presenting people with that aren't you are disformation and Calix. Given that I think your reason for voting Calix isn't valid, and you just basically said both your post AND Calix's post were scummy, I'd like to hear what you think about disformation. Failing that, talk to me about conversion's push on disformation. If you can't do either of those things then I'll narrow the list and recommend everyone just lynch you and you only. So is calix scummy or not? Make up your mind. You say im scummy for reading calix as scum, but now youre calling calix scum also. #galaxybrain bugs makes a pretty big post, ruxxar kind of just shitposts back at him? which is funny because he said we’s not trying to shit up the thread On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have. On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1” Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours. It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth. Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though. so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts. tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish. im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus. my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion. speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta. i could be swayed to vote conversion today. this part is hilarious. bugs wanted ruxxar to talk to him (bugs) about me (conversion), but ruxxar just shits on him, comes back like 5 hours later or whatever and suddenly I’m a scum lean. wtf? On May 21 2019 06:02 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 03:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from. From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment? Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight. In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could. Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up. Disinformation? same basic thing. So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me. Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up. So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.
Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am not sure i will bother to play a game with this amount of retarded people. Yes, it's fucking retarded when you are clearly being cased regardless of whatever Holyflare says afterwards and people won't accept your completely reasonable and easily truth-checkable explanation. I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis. Bugs can go to Acrofales pile if he is town and sadly i am not even sure he is not. Acrofales pile is a pile where people who i thought very high of earlier but turns out they are not good town players after all go.Everything he posts is just so fucking wrong and he is even trying to coach me or some shit. I could't care less what the dude writes, because it's jsut straight out BS out of his keyboard, seems like the pattern from last game continues. + Show Spoiler +On May 11 2019 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
likewise, 13/10 would ignore both rayn and HF again rayn voted: D1 - mafia bugs voted: D1 - town D2 - town D3 - town D4 - town i laughed at that comment for liek 10 minutes. for real. gonna vote for mafia again. ##vote Calix When you have these two posts in the thread then making the following post on calix is not exactly a bold original idea. It could be construed as trying to get a second wagon started without risking yourself. Do notice that both me and rayn voted for calix. But bloody despite calling her post «screaming fucking mafia» did not join voting. Perhaps waiting to see if thread sentiment would build further onto calix first. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. if I read this out of context it looks like a townie trying.
I think I’m starting to see a little bit of people’s issues with ruxxar— it almost feels like he has a disconnect with his ideas and his actions. he doesn’t seem to engage with the thread in any way, throws out a bunch of reads, and without that engagement I can see why he looks scummy.
hmm give me a good night’s rest to sleep and recharge and I’ll reread my thing and some other cases on him (if you could be so kind to point it out some cases, I don’t have to waste extra time digging through the thread)
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On May 21 2019 06:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nah I'm fine with ruX. I picked up reading after his initial post (which I initially townread him for) and he checked like all my townie marks in the first few posts after. I don't want to lynch ruX. Among the things I found were:
Annoyance at being ignored.
Annoyance with lurkers.
Fluid reads that change as people post.
Bringing up people others aren't looking at.
Among other more nuanced things I look for.
Rux not on my radar today.
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disfo is sooo mafia though. like he just unvoted with 24 hours left in a 72 hour day for what. I still have 0 idea on what he wants to accomplish today besides asking a bunch of questions. at least in the meta where he was town he was actively posting questions to himself to be transparent that he's solving the game. i guess he's kidn of being contrarian to the ruxxar point. cause scum buddies, or TMI so he can look good if ruxxar flips?
dude is just apologetic and in the background. can someone explain to me why ruxxar is more mafia mafia when disfo is doing just as much hiding? is it cause he's more active?
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it also feels soo bad when a player only responds to a case without ever addressing any of the other reasons why I scum read him. that case alone isn't why i scum read disfo-- it's his inaction and general laziness and people are OK with him chilling out, but aren't with others. I've asked him like minimum two times now about what his thoughts were and who he wants to lynch, and he's just ducked it until he could nitpick my case and ignore everything else I posted thus far
im so confused
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On May 21 2019 10:53 Conversion wrote:ruxxar: + Show Spoiler +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix ok starts off pretty much sprinting out of the gate, calling calix scum let’s see where the leads to On May 20 2019 06:54 ruXxar wrote:
@rayn did your opinion on calix change or what? asks rayn if his opinion changes, but like 30 posts ago rayn was ranting about how Calix was mafia? not sure what the point of this jab was TBH.. doesn’t look like he follows it up either On May 20 2019 15:50 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up. You dont like my entry post but seem just entirely fine with calix list post. Of course you do when he calls you town lmao kinda omgusy defense towards bugs here On May 20 2019 16:42 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:50 ruXxar wrote:On May 20 2019 15:25 wherebugsgo wrote:Jock, here: On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.
VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to
Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority I'm gonna pass on that one. A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So... B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me. I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing? you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple: On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix 3 things that stand out: 1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement 2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with" 3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification. When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong. The tl;dr is that my read is on the basis of ruxxar’s entrance post plus his reaction to the resistance that Calix put up. You dont like my entry post but seem just entirely fine with calix list post. Of course you do when he calls you town lmao Your reaction to resistance on your vote vs Calix's reaction are pretty worlds apart. Hell, even the posts themselves are pretty different. When someone cites another post as part of their rationale in a way that makes sense, and manage to do this very consistently, I find it less likely they are scum. You didn't do that, did you? Now, what's odd is that you are calling me out for calling one list post bad, but not the other. You want me to look away from your scumminess at someone else...who according to you, did a very similar thing to you? Anyway, enough about you. The choices I'm presenting people with that aren't you are disformation and Calix. Given that I think your reason for voting Calix isn't valid, and you just basically said both your post AND Calix's post were scummy, I'd like to hear what you think about disformation. Failing that, talk to me about conversion's push on disformation. If you can't do either of those things then I'll narrow the list and recommend everyone just lynch you and you only. So is calix scummy or not? Make up your mind. You say im scummy for reading calix as scum, but now youre calling calix scum also. #galaxybrain bugs makes a pretty big post, ruxxar kind of just shitposts back at him? which is funny because he said we’s not trying to shit up the thread On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have. On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1” Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours. It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth. Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though. so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts. tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish. im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus. my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion. speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta. i could be swayed to vote conversion today. this part is hilarious. bugs wanted ruxxar to talk to him (bugs) about me (conversion), but ruxxar just shits on him, comes back like 5 hours later or whatever and suddenly I’m a scum lean. wtf? On May 21 2019 06:02 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 03:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from. From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment? Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight. In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could. Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up. Disinformation? same basic thing. So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me. Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up. So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.
Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am not sure i will bother to play a game with this amount of retarded people. Yes, it's fucking retarded when you are clearly being cased regardless of whatever Holyflare says afterwards and people won't accept your completely reasonable and easily truth-checkable explanation. I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis. Bugs can go to Acrofales pile if he is town and sadly i am not even sure he is not. Acrofales pile is a pile where people who i thought very high of earlier but turns out they are not good town players after all go.Everything he posts is just so fucking wrong and he is even trying to coach me or some shit. I could't care less what the dude writes, because it's jsut straight out BS out of his keyboard, seems like the pattern from last game continues. + Show Spoiler +On May 11 2019 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
likewise, 13/10 would ignore both rayn and HF again rayn voted: D1 - mafia bugs voted: D1 - town D2 - town D3 - town D4 - town i laughed at that comment for liek 10 minutes. for real. gonna vote for mafia again. ##vote Calix When you have these two posts in the thread then making the following post on calix is not exactly a bold original idea. It could be construed as trying to get a second wagon started without risking yourself. Do notice that both me and rayn voted for calix. But bloody despite calling her post «screaming fucking mafia» did not join voting. Perhaps waiting to see if thread sentiment would build further onto calix first. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. if I read this out of context it looks like a townie trying. I think I’m starting to see a little bit of people’s issues with ruxxar— it almost feels like he has a disconnect with his ideas and his actions. he doesn’t seem to engage with the thread in any way, throws out a bunch of reads, and without that engagement I can see why he looks scummy. hmm give me a good night’s rest to sleep and recharge and I’ll reread my thing and some other cases on him (if you could be so kind to point it out some cases, I don’t have to waste extra time digging through the thread)
I’m on mobile and can’t easily point stuff out but just read my last few posts (should be in the last page in my filter) and BC’s last post as well.
The tl;dr is ruxxar is image/activity conscious, never commits to any reads, says he’ll be around but dodged question after question (just look at that response to me that you quoted as a shitpost; I ask him like four questions and to comment on disformation and he just ignores it entirely) and while he seems to bristle a bit this is not actually outside the range of his scum game as I pointed out on the last page with an example from Mafia Mafia Mafia where he was calling bs on people and throwing around townreads like he is here.
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Conversion, I have a lean town on disformation at this point because I find it unlikely he would make certain posts with full information. He appears to just have a style that looks scummy, and at least for now his rationale and opinions make sense to me. He also didn’t dodge my questions and I think he only didn’t respond to you because he thought his ask of you on meta was obvious or something like that and he seemed to be waiting for a response from you on it.
I’m sure he can explain it himself though, at least I’m more confident disfo will actually respond in kind and it make coherent sense than ruxxar would.
On May 21 2019 00:33 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:25 wherebugsgo wrote:I'm off to bed now. ruxxar's come back so hopefully he can clear up his alignment for us. I'm not hopeful either way  On May 21 2019 00:21 disformation wrote:
fuck flood control...
@ conv:
i think also wanted to know if you think jock is pants on head town or scum from your pov.
btw do you intend on providing any opinions or only asking questions this game? What player would you kill right now and why? opinions are totally overrated i acutally like your posts on ruxxar (as i mentioned like a few minutes ago), but he just got here so imma wait and see what he does. otherwise sheeping ve and hf on igrok seems decent (as i mentioned a few minutes ago). for conv i want see see what/if he follows up on my meta (as i mentioned ...) for bc i have a town lead (as i posted) but am confused about the jock stuff so i want him to come back and explain (as i posted). ve top town (as i posted)
On May 21 2019 00:34 disformation wrote:
also posted a read on jock
so not sure where the "0 opinions" stuff is coming from.
Here’s his double response to me saying I think he has no opinions. This alone on attitude and responsiveness indicated that he is trying to figure out the game and has some sort of perspective but that, as a typical townie, he is not self aware that these opinions are not obvious to outside observers
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On May 21 2019 10:55 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 06:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nah I'm fine with ruX. I picked up reading after his initial post (which I initially townread him for) and he checked like all my townie marks in the first few posts after. I don't want to lynch ruX. Among the things I found were:
Annoyance at being ignored.
Annoyance with lurkers.
Fluid reads that change as people post.
Bringing up people others aren't looking at.
Among other more nuanced things I look for.
Rux not on my radar today.
You need to cite these because none of those are true
when was he annoyed with lurkers?? He said most of the game is active and that makes it hard to find scum which is almost the exact opposite
Fluid reads that change as people post?? Literally the only progression he had was Koshi town after entrance and some talk about how he thinks jock needs to calm down (but no mention of whether that’s scummy)
Annoyance at being ignored????
I’m honestly utterly confused how you could think these in the first place but still think them now. Go ahead and point out each of ruxxar’s posts that show these things, VE, cause I think you’re full of it
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Bugs you're doing a lot of narrative building to justify your reads. Like, I came to the exact opposite read of disfo's filter, it looks like he's FAR more guilty of the things you're accusing ruxxar of and you're making up some shit to justify calling him town and rux mafia.
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On May 21 2019 11:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Bugs you're doing a lot of narrative building to justify your reads. Like, I came to the exact opposite read of disfo's filter, it looks like he's FAR more guilty of the things you're accusing ruxxar of and you're making up some shit to justify calling him town and rux mafia.
Don’t dodge my questions VE. Show me where ruxxar complained about lurkers
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On May 21 2019 02:33 ruXxar wrote:
havent played a mafia game where its been this hard to come up with solid reads ngl.
everyone being active smart or active gorilla, hard to tell apart day 1.
I interpreted this post as complaining about lurkers. On second look when I read it I read the second 'active' as 'inactive', changing the context of the post.
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I'm not dodging shit Bugs calm your shit down.
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I just find it strange that we have the exact opposite reads of ruxxar and disformation...my reasons are based on shit that's here in the thread and your shit is based on "OH HE'S CAPABLE OF THIS IF YOU SQUINT SEE HERE!!!"
Fuck outta here.
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Subtract the lurker thing and my read doesn't change much, he feels town to me based on my read of it. Maybe I'm just bad or whatever, that's cool. I tend to think not but it's whatever.
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jesus now Bugs is typing up a big huge post going OMGZORZ VE SCUM CAUSE HE MISREAD THIS WORD THAT TIME
I'm going to bed. You guys figure this shit out and I'll sheep whoever sounds the smartest. <333
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On May 21 2019 11:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Subtract the lurker thing and my read doesn't change much, he feels town to me based on my read of it. Maybe I'm just bad or whatever, that's cool. I tend to think not but it's whatever.
If you're town, I believe you that this is a potentially valid take. Like I said though, I'm just not seeing how you came to that conclusion and you still haven't given concrete reasons for these two:
Fluid reads that change as people post?? Literally the only progression he had was Koshi town after entrance and some talk about how he thinks jock needs to calm down (but no mention of whether that’s scummy)
Annoyance at being ignored????
Please point out both of those as well because I just don't see how anyone could reasonably come to those two observations after reading ruxxar's posts. I realize I'm fairly tunneled so I'm basically looking for reasons not to be.
On May 21 2019 11:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
I just find it strange that we have the exact opposite reads of ruxxar and disformation...my reasons are based on shit that's here in the thread and your shit is based on "OH HE'S CAPABLE OF THIS IF YOU SQUINT SEE HERE!!!"
Fuck outta here.
This one I also don't get because as far as I remember you haven't said anything on disfo at all until just now, besides that one post you made where you were asking why Conversion thinks he's scum and then saying you'd look into it. What were you waiting for? Have you not seen me asking people to provide opinions on ruxxar & disformation so that we can consolidate on them?? If you'd already come to a conclusion somewhere between that post you made when you said you'd read into disfo and now, why did you wait until I responded to a direct question to put your scumread in the thread?
I can understand withholding a town read but I don't get why you'd withhold a scum read, especially when it's one of the only players who are actively being pushed.
Even with all that said, I myself am not so sure on disformation because I think there are a lot of ways to interpret his posts. If you're confused on why I lean town let's talk it out rather than you just attacking me because we supposedly reached polar opposite conclusions.
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Bugs sounding like a broken record and repeating yourself ad nauseam doesnt make the genie pop out of bottle and make your wish of me being mafia come true.
It does however make me think youre just a dumb town tunneling. Unless youre scum buddy with calix trying to deflect his lynch(which i find unlikely after your call out post), youre just stuck in the typical town ego trap of mafia read confirmation bias. Your ego wont allow you to back down from this lynch now that youve put so much into it.
I see no point why you as mafia would keep pushing me at this point.
Thats fine, i get it, ive been there. Ill just ignore you from now on as youre very clearly too deep in the hole to think rationally any longer.
I do want to bring attention to the huge momentum swing we’ve had in activity from certain players.
The beginning of the game was a big shitshow dominated by the presence of rayn and hf. Both of which have gone either completely silent(rayn) or currently do not give a shit(hf)
Rayn really outed himself in a dumb way that i dont think mafia would do. He took a what i would consider big gamble by goung full retard. He was on the chopping block for a while but made it out alive. Hes very likely town at this point.
Hf on the other hand, is currently playing a masterful scum game. Hes controlling his thread presence well, but has basically taken no hard scum stances on anyone. Hes wobbling and flaky in his reads and he refuses to take a stance on the main wagons by either defending or pushing them (calix and me).
Lately he seems very content with where the thread is heading and is very indifferent to the outcome of this lynch, despite claiming that i was not scum earlier and refusing to make up a fresh opinion.
I see no real motivation behind his actions besides his content in letting this lynch play out.
HF reeks of scum and is almost certain to flip mafia at this point, summing up the development of his thread interaction, lack of real motivation and indifference to the current situation.
Tldr:
Bugs is dumbo town.
Rayn is town.
HF is mafia.
##vote holyflare
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On May 21 2019 11:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
jesus now Bugs is typing up a big huge post going OMGZORZ VE SCUM CAUSE HE MISREAD THIS WORD THAT TIME
I'm going to bed. You guys figure this shit out and I'll sheep whoever sounds the smartest. <333
hold on you ninja voted Calix?
what in the hell is even going on
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Koshi does disformation look townie?
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On May 21 2019 11:30 ruXxar wrote:
Bugs sounding like a broken record and repeating yourself ad nauseam doesnt make the genie pop out of bottle and make your wish of me being mafia come true.
It does however make me think youre just a dumb town tunneling. Unless youre scum buddy with calix trying to deflect his lynch(which i find unlikely after your call out post), youre just stuck in the typical town ego trap of mafia read confirmation bias. Your ego wont allow you to back down from this lynch now that youve put so much into it.
I see no point why you as mafia would keep pushing me at this point.
Thats fine, i get it, ive been there. Ill just ignore you from now on as youre very clearly too deep in the hole to think rationally any longer.
I do want to bring attention to the huge momentum swing we’ve had in activity from certain players.
The beginning of the game was a big shitshow dominated by the presence of rayn and hf. Both of which have gone either completely silent(rayn) or currently do not give a shit(hf)
Rayn really outed himself in a dumb way that i dont think mafia would do. He took a what i would consider big gamble by goung full retard. He was on the chopping block for a while but made it out alive. Hes very likely town at this point.
Hf on the other hand, is currently playing a masterful scum game. Hes controlling his thread presence well, but has basically taken no hard scum stances on anyone. Hes wobbling and flaky in his reads and he refuses to take a stance on the main wagons by either defending or pushing them (calix and me).
Lately he seems very content with where the thread is heading and is very indifferent to the outcome of this lynch, despite claiming that i was not scum earlier and refusing to make up a fresh opinion.
I see no real motivation behind his actions besides his content in letting this lynch play out.
HF reeks of scum and is almost certain to flip mafia at this point, summing up the development of his thread interaction, lack of real motivation and indifference to the current situation.
Tldr:
Bugs is dumbo town.
Rayn is town.
HF is mafia.
##vote holyflare
I respect that this is a pretty bold move, and you're probably going to get a lot of town reads for this post. This post is about to seed a lot of problems and basically derails whatever momentum your case was getting. Bravo.
I don't get why in a million years you would ever do this as a townie though. Like literally no one is going to lynch HF with you today, and everything you've mentioned here requires some serious twisted logic to ignore a lot of reasonable evidence that HF is town, elements of which YOU YOURSELF POINTED OUT EARLIER IN THE GAME. Not only did you throw away your vote, you basically ensured no one is going to listen to you at all for the rest of the game.
like what happened to Calix vs Conversion? That's just dropped off a cliff now? What happened to this:
On May 20 2019 09:38 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 07:39 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 07:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.
Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)
Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation
Null
Everyone else where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.- Anyone else interested that he wonders where my jock read is but doesn't give a fuck that I put him as mafia ? I think that's more a townie mindset? He's not concerned about what your read of him is (something mafia are normally hyper aware of) and is more concerned where you put a figure that people are talking about (Jock). Stuff like that, even if little, leads me to think disfo isn't that bad looking. At least for now, which is extremely superficially atm. just want to put in my filter that this is a super townie post by hf.
and this:
On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
???
it seems like you're "progressing your reads" just because some people complained that you weren't doing that and now you're just flailing
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