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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 20 2019 22:18 GMT
#921
On May 21 2019 07:16 Koshi wrote:
1 more thing.

The 3 people on ruxxar. I dont trust any of you. Biggest offender is bc who was active in the thread and called 1 or maybe 2 mafia between Calix and Ruxxar. And voted Ruxxar over Calix. Why bc? Why 1 mafia at least. I still dont get it.

WBG his thread police was also pure shit. Felt dirty as well.

Disfo idk. Just not a townread.


Maybe there is 1/2 mafia there and mafia set up calix/ruxxar tvt wagons.

Maybe.

If you bleed green in the next 24 hours I might vote between those 3. Otherwise I am happy with this.

Last part is to Calix again.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2019 22:24 GMT
#922
On May 21 2019 07:16 disformation wrote:
im confused by whats going on tbh.
yall sound super fucking unmotivated.
wish i had more time to sort this shit out, but its getting late already again.
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
I'll read ruxxar. His posts strike me as the most gap filler at the moment.

didnt see any conclusion follow up on that btw


didn't happen, probably won't :D
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:27 GMT
#923
On May 21 2019 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 07:16 disformation wrote:
im confused by whats going on tbh.
yall sound super fucking unmotivated.
wish i had more time to sort this shit out, but its getting late already again.
On May 21 2019 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
I'll read ruxxar. His posts strike me as the most gap filler at the moment.

didnt see any conclusion follow up on that btw


didn't happen, probably won't :D

"cool"
still trying to make sense of ruxxar tbh. prolly overthinking it.
dont mind bugs points, but after mulling over it a bit ruxxars reentry seems more town to me
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:34 GMT
#924
On May 21 2019 06:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Koshi that Calix read for real? She came at me bro, not many people do that.

Dnu man. I think she is mafia. Really do. Maybe she is not mafia. My vote will be for her. For reasons given.

First post was really not good enough. Way too generic and like ruxxar said fabricated.

I really really dont believe this is town Calix. Town Calix is smarter. Better. More in detail.

see thing is: i dont think it looks like either her previous town nor her previous scum games? but as i said i dont really want to meta her.
i also dont hate her for being like "imma sheep yo". tl could use a bit more sheep and a bit less ego imo.
thing that bothers me is that she is kinda around, kinda not around.
kinda jives with:
On May 21 2019 06:41 Koshi wrote:
I am back to voting Calix. The most grey posts and prudent as fuck.

I am not going to change on that anymore.

She cleaned up her posts today and when I removed my suspicion nothing more came from her. That's not ok.


Final read is that she plays to survive and not to solve the puzzle.


though. dunno if her plan to survive is to call everyone who calls her mafia bad and or scum.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 20 2019 22:38 GMT
#925
On May 21 2019 07:34 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 06:49 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2019 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Koshi that Calix read for real? She came at me bro, not many people do that.

Dnu man. I think she is mafia. Really do. Maybe she is not mafia. My vote will be for her. For reasons given.

First post was really not good enough. Way too generic and like ruxxar said fabricated.

I really really dont believe this is town Calix. Town Calix is smarter. Better. More in detail.

see thing is: i dont think it looks like either her previous town nor her previous scum games? but as i said i dont really want to meta her.
i also dont hate her for being like "imma sheep yo". tl could use a bit more sheep and a bit less ego imo.
thing that bothers me is that she is kinda around, kinda not around.
kinda jives with:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 06:41 Koshi wrote:
I am back to voting Calix. The most grey posts and prudent as fuck.

I am not going to change on that anymore.

She cleaned up her posts today and when I removed my suspicion nothing more came from her. That's not ok.


Final read is that she plays to survive and not to solve the puzzle.


though. dunno if her plan to survive is to call everyone who calls her mafia bad and or scum.


I'm not playing anything like any of my games so Koshi primarily scum-reading me based "she's not spamming the thread like she does when town" is so bad. It's even more nonsensical because the meta is at least a year old and my circumstances are way different now [aka busier].

Disformation, what are your scum-reads now you no longer think Ruxxar is mafia?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:45 GMT
#926
actually on the last point: you are not as bad at calling ppl scum/bad than i thought after looking through your filter again.
also fucking good question.
maybe i was to generous with jock/conv
going to take a quick read at wbg/bc too
bit irritated at the ve gtfoing and hf kinda not really caring interaction
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:46 GMT
#927
head is full of cotton and i am swimming in a sea of abstract math
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 20 2019 22:48 GMT
#928
I am tired myself but I'm happy to talk about whatever thoughts you have You are pretty chill to discuss stuff with, lol.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:52 GMT
#929
On May 20 2019 14:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 13:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Honestly bugs as the person who linked the ruxxar post you jumped on as a vote im not going to "sheep you" hes already on my fucking mafia list for his shit. Fuck, his re entry to this thread is also disgustingly bad since then.

between him and Calix I think we have a guarenteed mafia (possibly 2, not ruling it out).
Disinformation really needs to step it up, but based on day 1 screams scum as of the moment.


sorry I actually completely missed the fact that you were on ruxxar even though when I just reread now I remembered those posts. But since we're in agreement let's vote together

I can see some merit for wanting to kill Calix but I also see lots of reasons not to kill Calix. IIRC Calix played similar to this when I was scum and Calix was town about a year ago, even did something similar with that colour shading of names (hands up for any of you calling Calix scum, if you thought that particular detail was scummy) and does not seem to be afraid to put up some resistance here. Calix also I think is an asset if town and I don't want to kill potential assets on d1.


Show nested quote +

Now. I know you all hate Rayn for screaming at the top of his lungs about killing jock. You both have (VE and Bugs) has said nothing strikes you as strange however. After reading

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Jockmcplop

I am a little suspect. Not going to say hes a priority as of right now, but there is a shot of a real hit based purely on this. I find it unlikely (not impossible) that someone could roll town 3 games in a row and completely change their playstyle 3 games in a row.


I don't quite understand what that game has to do with this one.

I also don't follow your logic on rolling town 3 games in a row and changing his playstyle 3 games in a row. Here's what's given:

1. We know he changed his playstyle twice already. If anything this just tells us that he's willing to try different things and it's hard to say if this is alignment indicative
2. Last game, he got mislynched because people jumped on him for changing his style and couldn't read him properly, thought he was scum based on him being a bit too abrasive on d1 and not providing any real reads.
3. From the postgame, he admitted he was trying something out and he'll not do that again the next game. I don't remember if he mentioned why he changed his style in the first place, but perhaps he thought that his original approach just didn't work for whatever reason, changed it once, that failed, so now third time's the charm.

Collectively our record on meta has been pretty trash so I think there need to be better reasons for wanting to kill Jock than this for me to be convinced.

uh wat?
isnt the part bolded by me super strange?
calix is saying she is playing way differently than before.
koshi says she isnt playing like town calix.
bugs says she is playing like town calix.

there is def something wrong here
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 20 2019 22:55 GMT
#930
On May 21 2019 07:52 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 14:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 13:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Honestly bugs as the person who linked the ruxxar post you jumped on as a vote im not going to "sheep you" hes already on my fucking mafia list for his shit. Fuck, his re entry to this thread is also disgustingly bad since then.

between him and Calix I think we have a guarenteed mafia (possibly 2, not ruling it out).
Disinformation really needs to step it up, but based on day 1 screams scum as of the moment.


sorry I actually completely missed the fact that you were on ruxxar even though when I just reread now I remembered those posts. But since we're in agreement let's vote together

I can see some merit for wanting to kill Calix but I also see lots of reasons not to kill Calix. IIRC Calix played similar to this when I was scum and Calix was town about a year ago, even did something similar with that colour shading of names (hands up for any of you calling Calix scum, if you thought that particular detail was scummy) and does not seem to be afraid to put up some resistance here. Calix also I think is an asset if town and I don't want to kill potential assets on d1.



Now. I know you all hate Rayn for screaming at the top of his lungs about killing jock. You both have (VE and Bugs) has said nothing strikes you as strange however. After reading

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Jockmcplop

I am a little suspect. Not going to say hes a priority as of right now, but there is a shot of a real hit based purely on this. I find it unlikely (not impossible) that someone could roll town 3 games in a row and completely change their playstyle 3 games in a row.


I don't quite understand what that game has to do with this one.

I also don't follow your logic on rolling town 3 games in a row and changing his playstyle 3 games in a row. Here's what's given:

1. We know he changed his playstyle twice already. If anything this just tells us that he's willing to try different things and it's hard to say if this is alignment indicative
2. Last game, he got mislynched because people jumped on him for changing his style and couldn't read him properly, thought he was scum based on him being a bit too abrasive on d1 and not providing any real reads.
3. From the postgame, he admitted he was trying something out and he'll not do that again the next game. I don't remember if he mentioned why he changed his style in the first place, but perhaps he thought that his original approach just didn't work for whatever reason, changed it once, that failed, so now third time's the charm.

Collectively our record on meta has been pretty trash so I think there need to be better reasons for wanting to kill Jock than this for me to be convinced.

uh wat?
isnt the part bolded by me super strange?
calix is saying she is playing way differently than before.
koshi says she isnt playing like town calix.
bugs says she is playing like town calix.

there is def something wrong here


WBG has played one game with me about a year ago (?). He was mafia. I was town. We were both alive for a while IIRC.

I've played maybe 5 times with Koshi, don't really remember. We have never been the same alignment before. Usually he is mafia and I am town.

Does that help?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 22:59 GMT
#931
On May 21 2019 07:48 Calix wrote:
I am tired myself but I'm happy to talk about whatever thoughts you have You are pretty chill to discuss stuff with, lol.

getting kinda late here, but i can be around a bit longer.

so head kinda at:
there is something wrong in calix <> wbg <> koshi that i need to look at after ive gotten some sleep.

i think bc hasnt explained the jock reads stuff so I actually have no idea how some reads in his filter came to be, which i dont like the longer the game progresses. the last page of his filter also doesnt carry a lot of good information. liked him better earlier in the game.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 20 2019 23:00 GMT
#932
Someone is going to have to explain why they think ruxxar became townier with his responses cause I’m not really seeing it. He came back and basically posted a few things that made absolutely no sense (why does he think one of Calix/conversion is scum??) with no particular read progression-he even claimed he read the thread and the only thing that really changed is that he now town reads Koshi.

He also pulled a second disappearing act as people are fighting over Calix again. Why is this such a hard lynch?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 20 2019 23:02 GMT
#933
On May 21 2019 07:59 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 07:48 Calix wrote:
I am tired myself but I'm happy to talk about whatever thoughts you have You are pretty chill to discuss stuff with, lol.

getting kinda late here, but i can be around a bit longer.

so head kinda at:
there is something wrong in calix <> wbg <> koshi that i need to look at after ive gotten some sleep.

i think bc hasnt explained the jock reads stuff so I actually have no idea how some reads in his filter came to be, which i dont like the longer the game progresses. the last page of his filter also doesnt carry a lot of good information. liked him better earlier in the game.



Actually I have a question about BC. When I saw his post against Artanis, I thought it was weird, almost OOC, coming from him. Seemed a lot 'angrier' (for lack of a better word) than what I'd expect. (also I didn't understand the part where he says he was protecting Artanis given Artanis hasn't been under any pressure)

But I also don't know the guy at all. Is that kind of thing normal for him?

[I also haven't paid any attention to him, might go read his filter actually]
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:03 GMT
#934
On May 21 2019 08:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Someone is going to have to explain why they think ruxxar became townier with his responses cause I’m not really seeing it. He came back and basically posted a few things that made absolutely no sense (why does he think one of Calix/conversion is scum??) with no particular read progression-he even claimed he read the thread and the only thing that really changed is that he now town reads Koshi.

He also pulled a second disappearing act as people are fighting over Calix again. Why is this such a hard lynch?

i mean its not slam dunk (unfortunaley nothing is so far), but a) tone b) like where does mafia come in like "yeah was reading filter for an hour, got these small things, but basically not much, cu". imo the "sry got nothing" is more likely town, as scum would frantically try to have "something"
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:05 GMT
#935
On May 21 2019 07:55 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 07:52 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 14:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 13:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Honestly bugs as the person who linked the ruxxar post you jumped on as a vote im not going to "sheep you" hes already on my fucking mafia list for his shit. Fuck, his re entry to this thread is also disgustingly bad since then.

between him and Calix I think we have a guarenteed mafia (possibly 2, not ruling it out).
Disinformation really needs to step it up, but based on day 1 screams scum as of the moment.


sorry I actually completely missed the fact that you were on ruxxar even though when I just reread now I remembered those posts. But since we're in agreement let's vote together

I can see some merit for wanting to kill Calix but I also see lots of reasons not to kill Calix. IIRC Calix played similar to this when I was scum and Calix was town about a year ago, even did something similar with that colour shading of names (hands up for any of you calling Calix scum, if you thought that particular detail was scummy) and does not seem to be afraid to put up some resistance here. Calix also I think is an asset if town and I don't want to kill potential assets on d1.



Now. I know you all hate Rayn for screaming at the top of his lungs about killing jock. You both have (VE and Bugs) has said nothing strikes you as strange however. After reading

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Jockmcplop

I am a little suspect. Not going to say hes a priority as of right now, but there is a shot of a real hit based purely on this. I find it unlikely (not impossible) that someone could roll town 3 games in a row and completely change their playstyle 3 games in a row.


I don't quite understand what that game has to do with this one.

I also don't follow your logic on rolling town 3 games in a row and changing his playstyle 3 games in a row. Here's what's given:

1. We know he changed his playstyle twice already. If anything this just tells us that he's willing to try different things and it's hard to say if this is alignment indicative
2. Last game, he got mislynched because people jumped on him for changing his style and couldn't read him properly, thought he was scum based on him being a bit too abrasive on d1 and not providing any real reads.
3. From the postgame, he admitted he was trying something out and he'll not do that again the next game. I don't remember if he mentioned why he changed his style in the first place, but perhaps he thought that his original approach just didn't work for whatever reason, changed it once, that failed, so now third time's the charm.

Collectively our record on meta has been pretty trash so I think there need to be better reasons for wanting to kill Jock than this for me to be convinced.

uh wat?
isnt the part bolded by me super strange?
calix is saying she is playing way differently than before.
koshi says she isnt playing like town calix.
bugs says she is playing like town calix.

there is def something wrong here


WBG has played one game with me about a year ago (?). He was mafia. I was town. We were both alive for a while IIRC.

I've played maybe 5 times with Koshi, don't really remember. We have never been the same alignment before. Usually he is mafia and I am town.

Does that help?

nah i need to double check if koshi and wbg actually make like sense. xD
like koshi is scumreading both wbg and you? and im kinda seeing his comment on wbg pushing him on calix?
not sure though. but the whole thing seems off to me.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 20 2019 23:06 GMT
#936
On May 21 2019 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
I'll read ruxxar. His posts strike me as the most gap filler at the moment.


You need to follow up on this now or I’m booting you from my town circle

You say you find it weird that I “defended” iGrok when it’s more like I provided the only valid perspective that isn’t completely coloured by “he used a bad reason for the only thug he’s done so he’s scum”. I find it weird that even now he’s the only person you’re willing to kill.

ruxxar is clearly actively lurking, he basically admitted it twice. That’s more than we can say for iGrok who just straight up disappeared.

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 20 2019 23:07 GMT
#937
On May 21 2019 08:05 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 07:55 Calix wrote:
On May 21 2019 07:52 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 14:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 13:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Honestly bugs as the person who linked the ruxxar post you jumped on as a vote im not going to "sheep you" hes already on my fucking mafia list for his shit. Fuck, his re entry to this thread is also disgustingly bad since then.

between him and Calix I think we have a guarenteed mafia (possibly 2, not ruling it out).
Disinformation really needs to step it up, but based on day 1 screams scum as of the moment.


sorry I actually completely missed the fact that you were on ruxxar even though when I just reread now I remembered those posts. But since we're in agreement let's vote together

I can see some merit for wanting to kill Calix but I also see lots of reasons not to kill Calix. IIRC Calix played similar to this when I was scum and Calix was town about a year ago, even did something similar with that colour shading of names (hands up for any of you calling Calix scum, if you thought that particular detail was scummy) and does not seem to be afraid to put up some resistance here. Calix also I think is an asset if town and I don't want to kill potential assets on d1.



Now. I know you all hate Rayn for screaming at the top of his lungs about killing jock. You both have (VE and Bugs) has said nothing strikes you as strange however. After reading

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Jockmcplop

I am a little suspect. Not going to say hes a priority as of right now, but there is a shot of a real hit based purely on this. I find it unlikely (not impossible) that someone could roll town 3 games in a row and completely change their playstyle 3 games in a row.


I don't quite understand what that game has to do with this one.

I also don't follow your logic on rolling town 3 games in a row and changing his playstyle 3 games in a row. Here's what's given:

1. We know he changed his playstyle twice already. If anything this just tells us that he's willing to try different things and it's hard to say if this is alignment indicative
2. Last game, he got mislynched because people jumped on him for changing his style and couldn't read him properly, thought he was scum based on him being a bit too abrasive on d1 and not providing any real reads.
3. From the postgame, he admitted he was trying something out and he'll not do that again the next game. I don't remember if he mentioned why he changed his style in the first place, but perhaps he thought that his original approach just didn't work for whatever reason, changed it once, that failed, so now third time's the charm.

Collectively our record on meta has been pretty trash so I think there need to be better reasons for wanting to kill Jock than this for me to be convinced.

uh wat?
isnt the part bolded by me super strange?
calix is saying she is playing way differently than before.
koshi says she isnt playing like town calix.
bugs says she is playing like town calix.

there is def something wrong here


WBG has played one game with me about a year ago (?). He was mafia. I was town. We were both alive for a while IIRC.

I've played maybe 5 times with Koshi, don't really remember. We have never been the same alignment before. Usually he is mafia and I am town.

Does that help?

nah i need to double check if koshi and wbg actually make like sense. xD
like koshi is scumreading both wbg and you? and im kinda seeing his comment on wbg pushing him on calix?
not sure though. but the whole thing seems off to me.


I don't think they're mafia together, lol.

Koshi is considerably more likely mafia anyway. I noticed during the VE/ HF fight that he basically popped in and changed a bunch of scum-reads around with zero explanations. You can check for yourself. It really reeks of 'throw a dart at some names and claim they're your new scum-reads' play.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:09 GMT
#938
On May 21 2019 08:02 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 07:59 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 07:48 Calix wrote:
I am tired myself but I'm happy to talk about whatever thoughts you have You are pretty chill to discuss stuff with, lol.

getting kinda late here, but i can be around a bit longer.

so head kinda at:
there is something wrong in calix <> wbg <> koshi that i need to look at after ive gotten some sleep.

i think bc hasnt explained the jock reads stuff so I actually have no idea how some reads in his filter came to be, which i dont like the longer the game progresses. the last page of his filter also doesnt carry a lot of good information. liked him better earlier in the game.



Actually I have a question about BC. When I saw his post against Artanis, I thought it was weird, almost OOC, coming from him. Seemed a lot 'angrier' (for lack of a better word) than what I'd expect. (also I didn't understand the part where he says he was protecting Artanis given Artanis hasn't been under any pressure)

But I also don't know the guy at all. Is that kind of thing normal for him?

[I also haven't paid any attention to him, might go read his filter actually]

dont think ive played with him before? maybe he has history with art?
but ruxxar noticed the same:
On May 21 2019 06:16 ruXxar wrote:
Why the hell are you getting so defensive over a single post by artanis bloody. If you were town i would expect you to shrug at the accusation, but here you write a 200 word essay trying refute the point.


On May 21 2019 08:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 21 2019 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
I'll read ruxxar. His posts strike me as the most gap filler at the moment.


You need to follow up on this now or I’m booting you from my town circle

You say you find it weird that I “defended” iGrok when it’s more like I provided the only valid perspective that isn’t completely coloured by “he used a bad reason for the only thug he’s done so he’s scum”. I find it weird that even now he’s the only person you’re willing to kill.

ruxxar is clearly actively lurking, he basically admitted it twice. That’s more than we can say for iGrok who just straight up disappeared.


hm? maybe im stupid and/or blind, but could you quote that?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 23:11 GMT
#939
On May 21 2019 08:07 Calix wrote:
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On May 21 2019 08:05 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 07:55 Calix wrote:
On May 21 2019 07:52 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 14:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 13:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Honestly bugs as the person who linked the ruxxar post you jumped on as a vote im not going to "sheep you" hes already on my fucking mafia list for his shit. Fuck, his re entry to this thread is also disgustingly bad since then.

between him and Calix I think we have a guarenteed mafia (possibly 2, not ruling it out).
Disinformation really needs to step it up, but based on day 1 screams scum as of the moment.


sorry I actually completely missed the fact that you were on ruxxar even though when I just reread now I remembered those posts. But since we're in agreement let's vote together

I can see some merit for wanting to kill Calix but I also see lots of reasons not to kill Calix. IIRC Calix played similar to this when I was scum and Calix was town about a year ago, even did something similar with that colour shading of names (hands up for any of you calling Calix scum, if you thought that particular detail was scummy) and does not seem to be afraid to put up some resistance here. Calix also I think is an asset if town and I don't want to kill potential assets on d1.



Now. I know you all hate Rayn for screaming at the top of his lungs about killing jock. You both have (VE and Bugs) has said nothing strikes you as strange however. After reading

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Jockmcplop

I am a little suspect. Not going to say hes a priority as of right now, but there is a shot of a real hit based purely on this. I find it unlikely (not impossible) that someone could roll town 3 games in a row and completely change their playstyle 3 games in a row.


I don't quite understand what that game has to do with this one.

I also don't follow your logic on rolling town 3 games in a row and changing his playstyle 3 games in a row. Here's what's given:

1. We know he changed his playstyle twice already. If anything this just tells us that he's willing to try different things and it's hard to say if this is alignment indicative
2. Last game, he got mislynched because people jumped on him for changing his style and couldn't read him properly, thought he was scum based on him being a bit too abrasive on d1 and not providing any real reads.
3. From the postgame, he admitted he was trying something out and he'll not do that again the next game. I don't remember if he mentioned why he changed his style in the first place, but perhaps he thought that his original approach just didn't work for whatever reason, changed it once, that failed, so now third time's the charm.

Collectively our record on meta has been pretty trash so I think there need to be better reasons for wanting to kill Jock than this for me to be convinced.

uh wat?
isnt the part bolded by me super strange?
calix is saying she is playing way differently than before.
koshi says she isnt playing like town calix.
bugs says she is playing like town calix.

there is def something wrong here


WBG has played one game with me about a year ago (?). He was mafia. I was town. We were both alive for a while IIRC.

I've played maybe 5 times with Koshi, don't really remember. We have never been the same alignment before. Usually he is mafia and I am town.

Does that help?

nah i need to double check if koshi and wbg actually make like sense. xD
like koshi is scumreading both wbg and you? and im kinda seeing his comment on wbg pushing him on calix?
not sure though. but the whole thing seems off to me.


I don't think they're mafia together, lol.

Koshi is considerably more likely mafia anyway. I noticed during the VE/ HF fight that he basically popped in and changed a bunch of scum-reads around with zero explanations. You can check for yourself. It really reeks of 'throw a dart at some names and claim they're your new scum-reads' play.

yeah not sure what to make of koshi this game tbh.
unfortunately koshi can be an absolute shitter as town D1. think i was in a game where we misslynched him d1 for basically just playing with himself. less volume than this game though. felt pretty bad after misslynching him tbh.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 20 2019 23:11 GMT
#940
On May 21 2019 08:03 disformation wrote:
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On May 21 2019 08:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Someone is going to have to explain why they think ruxxar became townier with his responses cause I’m not really seeing it. He came back and basically posted a few things that made absolutely no sense (why does he think one of Calix/conversion is scum??) with no particular read progression-he even claimed he read the thread and the only thing that really changed is that he now town reads Koshi.

He also pulled a second disappearing act as people are fighting over Calix again. Why is this such a hard lynch?

i mean its not slam dunk (unfortunaley nothing is so far), but a) tone b) like where does mafia come in like "yeah was reading filter for an hour, got these small things, but basically not much, cu". imo the "sry got nothing" is more likely town, as scum would frantically try to have "something"


What?? a) His tone is meek. He literally called himself a mouse
b) what you mentioned here is more mafia indicative than town!! It’s mafia who aren’t willing to commit to reads, not townies. How could someone possibly read 20+ pages of this game and come out with a town read on Koshi and no scum reads? It’s fairly clear he thought he should have one as well, because he offers conversion up as a potential lynch.

I’d love to see what Conversion thinks about that, honestly.

As for the Koshi and me business, Koshi is probably just scum this game because he’s been slinging stuff for a while and trying to just get it to stick. If you look at Koshi’s past games where he plays town he actually tries to figure out stuff despite the high volume of posting one liners. There is no real progression here, it just seems like he’s trying to find things that would throw us off and making it much harder to read the game. I am actually shocked at how many town reads he is getting for this play, especially because they’re completely unexplained as well.
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