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On April 08 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 03:55 Eywa- wrote:On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.
For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.
But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.
LS I do t want to ever die. I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly. That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you. Are you picking up what I'm laying down? No, I think rayn has just misread some posts and you're taking him saying we're all 3P at face value rather than what he likely meant being we're 3P because we have alternate win conditions that may or may not align with town. This faction bs doesn't mean shit. There is almost assuredly a mix of town and mafia in both factions.
Right, but then why does he argue what I'm saying if it was a mistake on his end initially? Like, my argument is correct... So why not admit that if you're town in his position?
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Eywa I like most of what you've posted over the last couple of pages so I don't want to have to kill you. However I need to know why you think scum can recruit you otherwise it just seems like we should lynch you now to avoid you being recruited.
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On April 08 2019 03:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Eywa I like most of what you've posted over the last couple of pages so I don't want to have to kill you. However I need to know why you think scum can recruit you otherwise it just seems like we should lynch you now to avoid you being recruited.
Well, I don't really see the point of this game having a subset of town that can be recruited by masons, so logically it's either cult or scum...
You know... Just by process of eliminating what doesn't make sense.
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On April 08 2019 03:58 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 03:55 Eywa- wrote:On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.
For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.
But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.
LS I do t want to ever die. I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly. That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you. Are you picking up what I'm laying down? No, I think rayn has just misread some posts and you're taking him saying we're all 3P at face value rather than what he likely meant being we're 3P because we have alternate win conditions that may or may not align with town. This faction bs doesn't mean shit. There is almost assuredly a mix of town and mafia in both factions. Right, but then why does he argue what I'm saying if it was a mistake on his end initially? Like, my argument is correct... So why not admit that if you're town in his position?
Because yourt argument is not correct. I literally never said "if you have alternative win conditions you are not town" which is what your argument boils down to.
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Also, I think we should lynch either Rayn or LS, I am not going to claim what faction I represent. I do hope to be recruited though  But in the meanwhile, I think we should all agree to lynch a recruiter.
LS is the only claimed recruiter, so I'm OK with going there first.
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Day One Vote Count
Meapak_Ziphh (6): VisceraEyes, Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Alakaslam, disformation, KelsierSC
Damdred (2): Palmar, Tubesock
raynpelikoneet (2): Grackaroni, Eywa-
Mig (1): Grackaroni, Tumblewood, Pandain, Mocsta, LightningStrike
Fecalfeast (1): KelsierSC, Jockmcplop
KelsierSC (1): Vivax
Vivax (1): Mocsta
Eywa- (1): raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (1): Tumblewood
Pandain (0): disformation, Holyflare, Fecalfeast
Palmar (0): Mocsta
Onegu (0): Eywa-
Grackaroni (0): Holyflare
disformation (0): Alakaslam, VisceraEyes
Holyflare (0): Eywa-, Grackaroni
Not voting (5): Damdred, Mig, Meapak_Ziphh, [UoN]Sentinel, LightningStrike
Meapak_Ziphh is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Sunday, Apr 07 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .
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On April 08 2019 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 03:58 Eywa- wrote:On April 08 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 03:55 Eywa- wrote:On April 08 2019 03:53 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2019 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.
For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.
But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.
LS I do t want to ever die. I am not sure how i should have understood this because what Damdred says here is he only wins (with town) if rayn is dead. I have had a role like that once, and it was a really fucking bs not-town role while i was "town". I could basically never win and i had never chance to play as town properly. That's not what the damdred post says. He says he can win with town or win by killing you. Are you picking up what I'm laying down? No, I think rayn has just misread some posts and you're taking him saying we're all 3P at face value rather than what he likely meant being we're 3P because we have alternate win conditions that may or may not align with town. This faction bs doesn't mean shit. There is almost assuredly a mix of town and mafia in both factions. Right, but then why does he argue what I'm saying if it was a mistake on his end initially? Like, my argument is correct... So why not admit that if you're town in his position? Because yourt argument is not correct. I literally never said "if you have alternative win conditions you are not town" which is what your argument boils down to.
Clearly my argument was about your wincon saying you have to kill Arabs IF you have the role you're claiming... The fact that you don't see that is such a misplay that I don't see how it can come from anyone who plays mafia even semi-regularly.
Please accept this as a fair statement because I think this argument has run it's course, is now pointless and anti-town, I don't think I could muster enough votes against you D1 even if I wanted to.
I think LS is the better lynch anyway because he actually seemingly claims recruiter, where as you just seem scummy to me which are differing levels of certainty.
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I hate games with recruiters, the better you play the more likely it is they just change your alignment and reverse your progress.
Eywa how does it make sense for you to win just by being recruited by scum? I have a hard time believing that a role would work like that.
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I dont have to kill arabs. I dont have to kill anyone, even fucking mafia in order to win. How is that so hard to understand?
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KelsierSC (1): Vivax
Vivax (1): Mocsta
Eywa- (1): raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (1): Tumblewood
Not voting (5): Damdred, Mig, Meapak_Ziphh, [UoN]Sentinel, LightningStrike
With 3 hours left? Come on guys...
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On April 08 2019 04:05 Vivax wrote:
I hate games with recruiters, the better you play the more likely it is they just change your alignment and reverse your progress.
Eywa how does it make sense for you to win just by being recruited by scum? I have a hard time believing that a role would work like that.
How does it make sense for there to be two identical factions with identical and opposite win conditions?
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On April 08 2019 04:07 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 04:05 Vivax wrote:
I hate games with recruiters, the better you play the more likely it is they just change your alignment and reverse your progress.
Eywa how does it make sense for you to win just by being recruited by scum? I have a hard time believing that a role would work like that. How does it make sense for there to be two identical factions with identical and opposite win conditions?
Ugh... Why am I even engaging scum..
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On April 08 2019 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont have to kill arabs. I dont have to kill anyone, even fucking mafia in order to win. How is that so hard to understand?
And i only answered to you about "He says that if you have other win cons than you are 3rd party, not town after he already claims that he also has other wincons (and he's like "I'm going to ignore them")" because that's what you literally said. Now you are saying something else, that is not still correct...
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On April 08 2019 04:01 Eywa- wrote:Also, I think we should lynch either Rayn or LS, I am not going to claim what faction I represent. I do hope to be recruited though But in the meanwhile, I think we should all agree to lynch a recruiter. LS is the only claimed recruiter, so I'm OK with going there first.
hmmmmmmm
This post I don't like. And I don't like it a lot. afaik LS has claimed he wins with the town.
On April 07 2019 23:29 LightningStrike wrote:
So ya my role is actually kinda shitty but I can deal with it because I only get to recruit Arbic/Hindu mathematicians into a qt.
This role does not seem inherently anti-town, and idk if the whole roman/arab thing is necessarily alignment indicative. Getting invited into a QT doesn't seem like it changes whether you win with town or scum. I'd rather lynch people who are acting scummy.
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On April 08 2019 04:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 04:01 Eywa- wrote:Also, I think we should lynch either Rayn or LS, I am not going to claim what faction I represent. I do hope to be recruited though But in the meanwhile, I think we should all agree to lynch a recruiter. LS is the only claimed recruiter, so I'm OK with going there first. hmmmmmmm This post I don't like. And I don't like it a lot. afaik LS has claimed he wins with the town. Show nested quote +On April 07 2019 23:29 LightningStrike wrote:
So ya my role is actually kinda shitty but I can deal with it because I only get to recruit Arbic/Hindu mathematicians into a qt. This role does not seem inherently anti-town, and idk if the whole roman/arab thing is necessarily alignment indicative. Getting invited into a QT doesn't seem like it changes whether you win with town or scum. I'd rather lynch people who are acting scummy.
You're joking right? Everyone is claiming (including myself) that this is an anti-town win condition.
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If it's a win condition that doesn't involve town winning.... HRMMMM
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On April 08 2019 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well i am off now
Are you a light bulb.
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On April 08 2019 04:11 Eywa- wrote:
If it's a win condition that doesn't involve town winning.... HRMMMM
It just sounds like an overly complicated mason. Doesn't seem to indicate anything about town or scum. You on the other hand seem to think that your alignment can be flipped. That I don't like.
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Can someone just full claim this fucking race war shit please so we can get it out in the open. If you are town and fight for the justice of town instead of some shitty anti town conversion mechanic then speak up and end this farcical nonsense so we can get back to killing mafia instead of some civil war.
I will be really unhappy if it is just a faction war to see who can recruit the most by the end of the game because I am of neither faction.
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