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So aside from the fact that rayn's post is just bad analysis (Acro and HF both look fine at the moment), his thing on me is pretty hilarious
On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Palmar found an easy way out to "play" during weekend on sentinel and os trying to look better.
Okay, so the assumption is that if I'm mafia I'm lazy and would thus find something easy to talk about. Never mind that rayn knows I am and have always been for policy lynching. I'm pretty sure I've lynched mafia for "not reading role pm" on day 1 before.
On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont really believe he comes and says "hi see you on monday i dont play on weekends" and then starts reading the thread anyways as town.
Then his assumption is that he doesn't believe I'd not be lazy as town, thus I must be scum because... I'm reading the thread? Again note that this is a pretty standard town-Palmar thing to do, to get drawn to the thread because I'm interested even if I wanted to just go afk. Check the time stamp on my posts last night, I was staying up for this shit.
But anyway, I'm not sure it's 100% a contradiction because the context is slightly different, but it's definitely something. It might be rayn just sucking but he really pulls this shit as mafia too.
I do hate it and rayn is probably my backup lynch today at the moment. But I have opinion on like 20-30% of the game at the moment so it's not much.
On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you know palmar you probably know what i mean.
No one on TL knows me worse than you rayn, no one. You compare me every game to some version of me that only exists in your mind and conclude shit.
I don't want this game to devolve into a shouting match, for my own sanity I'm gonna focus anything but rayn. But I really, really hated his big analysis post.
Like why the fuck are you complaining about Acro doing legwork on lurkers, what the hell is that?
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Well whatever. I am really gonna try to sleep now because after thursday morning i have slept no more than maybe 4 hours and i fell like i am dead.
HF
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sicklucker - i think he is too calm to be town, dunno hard to explain
Then probably x number of lurkers or something because i am most likely wrong on something. Trfel doesn't look town anymore, FF still doesn't impress in anyway but i am terrible at reading him. I don't really have any problems with BC. Rels and Mocsta are people who tend to put effort as mafia because they hate to not help their team so i think their absence points towards town more, especially Rels' who genuinely doesn't know what to do on D1 as town. Umm what else, Exo_ seems more like stubborn idiot than mafia, Maybe tubesock is mafia because he acknowledged HF's comment on me as scumread yet +1'd it despite it being lies. DF looked okayish, a bit "lame" but given he's not been around much i'd give him more time. If Ace doesn't start playing properly on D2 lynch with fire. I understand he may not want to give away too much information as per his playbook on D1 but this becomes unacceptable D2.
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On March 03 2019 19:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Ah so now it's more people than me and THAT'S why you didn't like ME. I see.  Very good read A+
I'm accustomed to other people being boring. Not you.
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On March 03 2019 20:02 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you know palmar you probably know what i mean.
No one on TL knows me worse than you rayn, no one. You compare me every game to some version of me that only exists in your mind and conclude shit.
Na-ah, this is not debatable because there is nothing to "know", one can just go and read your posts during weekends in games (especially D1's).
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If you say I'm mafia for lying about you going in circles then why is there a distinct lack of rsoultin who essentially said the same thing as me rayn?
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On March 03 2019 20:02 Palmar wrote:
Like why the fuck are you complaining about Acro doing legwork on lurkers, what the hell is that?
Because giving a list of liek 10 people and calling all of them scum or "let's lynch them" and not havign a single read on anyone else doesn't actually accomplish anything. Like earlier he made a big post which said:
1) rsoultin shouldnt be any alignment atm
2) bc shouldnt be any alignment atm
3) hell everyone should be on your watchlist
4) Grack made a useless list post as first entry and then fucked off again. It seemed quite a lot like scum doing stuff to "seem active"
---> continues making lurker list posts after that all game
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On March 03 2019 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 20:02 Palmar wrote:On March 03 2019 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you know palmar you probably know what i mean.
No one on TL knows me worse than you rayn, no one. You compare me every game to some version of me that only exists in your mind and conclude shit. Na-ah, this is not debatable because there is nothing to "know", one can just go and read your posts during weekends in games (especially D1's).
Imma talk to you about other stuff that doesn't wanna make me throw chairs at you.
Do you remember back in the day when we policy lynched mafia together day 1. You didn't really like it and tried your best to derail town victory but thankfully people stuck with me.
Twitter mafia, Chairman Ray claimed not to have read his role PM, I said fuck that noise and lynched him.
Let's do it again for old time's sake buddy.
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Palmar, if you are town, go seriously read Acrofales' filter and actually look at what he says. Then look at his case on Grackaroni and read the posts after that again.
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To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game.
Kill the policy lynch, continue playing.
On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play.
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Like sure, if he is mafia and knows Sent is town, he could be setting up a pushback on me, but he'd have to be extra dumb to believe I'm afraid of following through with a good policy lynch because of town lashback.
I just think it's a weak play if he's mafia, and I like the fact he's not just focusing on the things in the thread right at that moment. I didn't actually read much of his cases. I got the feeling, possibly wrong, that he was reading and responding in the thread while still trying to filter out a few people. It looks like he's trying.
Like even if Sentinel flips town, lynching him is a good move for town right now. I have absolutely no qualms about killing people for playing anti-town.
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First of all there is no figuring out if your policy lynch is ideological or scum, because its ideological regardless of your affiliation. I am not arguing lynching Sentinel is a bad thing i just dont come to games participating into policy lynches on people who dont post or dont read their role pm, because they should not join the games in the first place and should just fuck off and get modkilled. I play because i want to play and lynch mafia and there is no way to tell if those people are mafia or not.
I feel like the whole first chapter is full of nonsense because it doesn't really say anything. Second chapter also doesn't say anything because Sentinel isn't playing, it's like saying "i wouldn't call you mafia if you were more town".
Another thing;
Do you think a guy who jumps guns blazing on people who jokingly (or not) claim mafia at the start of the game can somehow thing it is less suspicious to fake claim masons than to say that they are not actually masons? I mean like if your principles that strong on stuff like that (like for example you and your policies) how on earth does it makes sense the guy who is telling the truth is more worth questioning than the guy who is lying? I call big big BS on Meapak's stuff on that.
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I honestly feel that watching you two(Palmar and Rayn) go back and forth on each other screams of two town getting into an argument due to differing reads on players for different reasons.
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We always do that, sometimes we even end up agreeing with each other.
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On March 03 2019 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First of all there is no figuring out if your policy lynch is ideological or scum, because its ideological regardless of your affiliation. I am not arguing lynching Sentinel is a bad thing i just dont come to games participating into policy lynches on people who dont post or dont read their role pm, because they should not join the games in the first place and should just fuck off and get modkilled. I play because i want to play and lynch mafia and there is no way to tell if those people are mafia or not.
Well not everyone knows I'm ideologically inclined to policy lynch people. However that's moot, the main thing is that you will find mafia by policy lynching. People constantly underestimate the power of a policy lynch like this. As you can already tell anyone who says "Well we gain no information if everyone just votes Sentinel" is completely full of shit because that NEVER EVER happens.
Pulling together policy lynches is hard work, this thread is proof of that. People are gonna have opinions on the notion and talk about other things in the process. Hell we have two lynches so other shit needs to be discussed too.
Now give me my policy lynch (or vote me mayor) and I can spend my time not arguing with a bunch of people who think they're smarter than they are.
On March 03 2019 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I feel like the whole first chapter is full of nonsense because it doesn't really say anything. Second chapter also doesn't say anything because Sentinel isn't playing, it's like saying "i wouldn't call you mafia if you were more town".
Second part is actually good. If you're gonna draw attention to yourself with some ridiculous stunt, you better have a play to follow up. He has nothing, it's just a mechanic to skate by on.
Now I don't believe he hasn't read his role PM, I think he's full of shit and using it as cover. But that's just me.
On March 03 2019 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another thing;
Do you think a guy who jumps guns blazing on people who jokingly (or not) claim mafia at the start of the game can somehow thing it is less suspicious to fake claim masons than to say that they are not actually masons? I mean like if your principles that strong on stuff like that (like for example you and your policies) how on earth does it makes sense the guy who is telling the truth is more worth questioning than the guy who is lying? I call big big BS on Meapak's stuff on that.
I don't know what you're talking about. Wasn't it Damdred who claimed masons (as a pretty obvious joke). I actually liked Damdred's early posting.
I haven't read/noticed anything by MZ.
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Yes Damdred claimed masons and i don't believe that was an obvious joke for Meapak because i am assuming he doesn't know either Damdred or LS. The worst part is that when i asked why did he question LS for telling the truth instead of the liar Damdred he said it wasn't actually for that but for something else, which doesn't make any sense because if you want to question something else then why don't you ask it in the first place instead of some completely useless question? LS answered him and he never followed up with his suggested "what i was really after" posting until i accused him.
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What's the current vote count at?
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On March 03 2019 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn can you remember the last game you were mafia and I was town?
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So how about those votes on Sentinel team, let's get those going.
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Sentinel is the mayor kill. We should be voting for who we think is mafia.
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Which in my poe is somehow 50% of the game.
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