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On January 21 2018 19:43 Mocsta wrote: Btw
Holyflare is the guy that calls damdred scum for thinking me and darthfoley are scum
Yet thinks im scum with damdred.....
Town hf is not this infallible
lol I don't think this says what you meant to say/think it says.
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On January 21 2018 19:47 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 19:29 rsoultin wrote:On January 21 2018 19:14 mderg wrote:Taking a look at the votes: Day One Final Vote Count
Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels, Mocsta, Rels beentheredonethat (4): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley, prplhz, Rels darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Holyflare (0): mderg, Mocsta, rsoultin prplhz (0): Mocsta
Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat
I think we can clear btdt because df voting him makes no sense here, if they're both scum. One vote switch would get btdt lynched. Similarly we can clear rsoultin on the df wagon. That's not telling us anything new, though. I also think Mocsta is town based on his interactions with df. So this is where I'm at: Day One Final Vote Count
Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels, Mocsta, Rels beentheredonethat (4): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley, prplhz, Rels darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Holyflare (0): mderg, Mocsta, rsoultin prplhz (0): Mocsta
Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat
That leaves us with: TheTwatyEvildoer: Looked pretty townish to me but then dropped off the face of the earth, wouldn't lynch right now, though Kmatt: Could be scum could be town but how do you honestly read him at this point? Damerion: Didn't like his case and tunnel on Damdred. Did look somewhat close to his usual town game but with some differences. Would lynch. Rels: Didn't like him at the start, felt better later on. Switching between two town wagons at the end would be plausible as scum. Could imagine lynching him. prplhz: No idea how to read him from his posts. Probably not scum together with Rels because I don't think all 3 scum would be on the same wagon. Holyflare: Felt more like hf but his reads look like how mafia would want to lynch. Would lynch. mderg: I'm obviously town Kmatt, alone of the afk'd players, was actually active around the lynch without voting. What does that say to you? Regarding rels, what is it that makes you think he could be scum? Switching between two town lynches doesn't make him town, sure, and could be staged. But there's also little incentive for scum to care in that situation. For that matter, me not voting to save Damdred could be considered scummy. I know that I was a boob writing a post while the vote changes happened, but you don't know that that's true or not. You don't agree with me that prp saying he'll vote with me and then not voting with me on scum darth foley looks scummy? Why not? It honestly doesn't tell me much about kmatt, what should it tell me? I've just now skimmed through his filter and have to say that it looks a bit different from what I thought it looked like. Pressure on df and hf looks good. Doesn't like damerion. Would be stupid to lynch him at this point. I don't know about prplhz. I don't know enough about him and df as players to judge how much sense his reasoning made. I definitely wouldn't play like that as town, though.
Namely, if you townread Damdred and you're here the last 24 hours of the day phase multiple times, why do you not vote when Damdred is leading the votes? I don't get that. It almost falls into the scum need to be right without feeling the need to actually do anything about it (i.e. save a townread). What gives me pause is the wagon on darthfoley but...I don't think we ever had enough to actually lynch df yesterday.
^ That combination for me shifts him to the scummy side of null. Not top priority, but clearly I think that people should be able to read something into his play here and actually have opinions on it. That's why I asked you.
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On January 21 2018 19:33 Mocsta wrote: This is not a reason to lynch homyflare... just a general fact.
He is harder to lynh as the game goes on Whether town or scum
I actually think damerion stupid caae/poke on a good town player is more likely to originate feom town. Almost suicide if scum... outcome is clear from the current sentiment...
To me focus for this lynch is holyflare mderg and perhaps damerion.
I still like twat regardless of disappearing.
What are you even talking about lol? I've been lynched pretty consistently and easily the past few games.
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On January 21 2018 19:53 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 19:47 mderg wrote:On January 21 2018 19:29 rsoultin wrote:On January 21 2018 19:14 mderg wrote:Taking a look at the votes: Day One Final Vote Count
Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels, Mocsta, Rels beentheredonethat (4): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley, prplhz, Rels darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Holyflare (0): mderg, Mocsta, rsoultin prplhz (0): Mocsta
Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat
I think we can clear btdt because df voting him makes no sense here, if they're both scum. One vote switch would get btdt lynched. Similarly we can clear rsoultin on the df wagon. That's not telling us anything new, though. I also think Mocsta is town based on his interactions with df. So this is where I'm at: Day One Final Vote Count
Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels, Mocsta, Rels beentheredonethat (4): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley, prplhz, Rels darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Holyflare (0): mderg, Mocsta, rsoultin prplhz (0): Mocsta
Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat
That leaves us with: TheTwatyEvildoer: Looked pretty townish to me but then dropped off the face of the earth, wouldn't lynch right now, though Kmatt: Could be scum could be town but how do you honestly read him at this point? Damerion: Didn't like his case and tunnel on Damdred. Did look somewhat close to his usual town game but with some differences. Would lynch. Rels: Didn't like him at the start, felt better later on. Switching between two town wagons at the end would be plausible as scum. Could imagine lynching him. prplhz: No idea how to read him from his posts. Probably not scum together with Rels because I don't think all 3 scum would be on the same wagon. Holyflare: Felt more like hf but his reads look like how mafia would want to lynch. Would lynch. mderg: I'm obviously town Kmatt, alone of the afk'd players, was actually active around the lynch without voting. What does that say to you? Regarding rels, what is it that makes you think he could be scum? Switching between two town lynches doesn't make him town, sure, and could be staged. But there's also little incentive for scum to care in that situation. For that matter, me not voting to save Damdred could be considered scummy. I know that I was a boob writing a post while the vote changes happened, but you don't know that that's true or not. You don't agree with me that prp saying he'll vote with me and then not voting with me on scum darth foley looks scummy? Why not? It honestly doesn't tell me much about kmatt, what should it tell me? I've just now skimmed through his filter and have to say that it looks a bit different from what I thought it looked like. Pressure on df and hf looks good. Doesn't like damerion. Would be stupid to lynch him at this point. I don't know about prplhz. I don't know enough about him and df as players to judge how much sense his reasoning made. I definitely wouldn't play like that as town, though. Namely, if you townread Damdred and you're here the last 24 hours of the day phase multiple times, why do you not vote when Damdred is leading the votes? I don't get that. It almost falls into the scum need to be right without feeling the need to actually do anything about it (i.e. save a townread). What gives me pause is the wagon on darthfoley but...I don't think we ever had enough to actually lynch df yesterday. ^ That combination for me shifts him to the scummy side of null. Not top priority, but clearly I think that people should be able to read something into his play here and actually have opinions on it. That's why I asked you. I struggle to read afk/semi-afk players. It depends strongly on how much they actually follow/care about the game. Both kmatt and prplhz are scummy, if we assume they had a general idea where the game is at.
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On January 21 2018 20:03 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 19:53 rsoultin wrote:On January 21 2018 19:47 mderg wrote:On January 21 2018 19:29 rsoultin wrote:On January 21 2018 19:14 mderg wrote:Taking a look at the votes: Day One Final Vote Count
Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels, Mocsta, Rels beentheredonethat (4): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley, prplhz, Rels darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Holyflare (0): mderg, Mocsta, rsoultin prplhz (0): Mocsta
Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat
I think we can clear btdt because df voting him makes no sense here, if they're both scum. One vote switch would get btdt lynched. Similarly we can clear rsoultin on the df wagon. That's not telling us anything new, though. I also think Mocsta is town based on his interactions with df. So this is where I'm at: Day One Final Vote Count
Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels, Mocsta, Rels beentheredonethat (4): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley, prplhz, Rels darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Holyflare (0): mderg, Mocsta, rsoultin prplhz (0): Mocsta
Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat
That leaves us with: TheTwatyEvildoer: Looked pretty townish to me but then dropped off the face of the earth, wouldn't lynch right now, though Kmatt: Could be scum could be town but how do you honestly read him at this point? Damerion: Didn't like his case and tunnel on Damdred. Did look somewhat close to his usual town game but with some differences. Would lynch. Rels: Didn't like him at the start, felt better later on. Switching between two town wagons at the end would be plausible as scum. Could imagine lynching him. prplhz: No idea how to read him from his posts. Probably not scum together with Rels because I don't think all 3 scum would be on the same wagon. Holyflare: Felt more like hf but his reads look like how mafia would want to lynch. Would lynch. mderg: I'm obviously town Kmatt, alone of the afk'd players, was actually active around the lynch without voting. What does that say to you? Regarding rels, what is it that makes you think he could be scum? Switching between two town lynches doesn't make him town, sure, and could be staged. But there's also little incentive for scum to care in that situation. For that matter, me not voting to save Damdred could be considered scummy. I know that I was a boob writing a post while the vote changes happened, but you don't know that that's true or not. You don't agree with me that prp saying he'll vote with me and then not voting with me on scum darth foley looks scummy? Why not? It honestly doesn't tell me much about kmatt, what should it tell me? I've just now skimmed through his filter and have to say that it looks a bit different from what I thought it looked like. Pressure on df and hf looks good. Doesn't like damerion. Would be stupid to lynch him at this point. I don't know about prplhz. I don't know enough about him and df as players to judge how much sense his reasoning made. I definitely wouldn't play like that as town, though. Namely, if you townread Damdred and you're here the last 24 hours of the day phase multiple times, why do you not vote when Damdred is leading the votes? I don't get that. It almost falls into the scum need to be right without feeling the need to actually do anything about it (i.e. save a townread). What gives me pause is the wagon on darthfoley but...I don't think we ever had enough to actually lynch df yesterday. ^ That combination for me shifts him to the scummy side of null. Not top priority, but clearly I think that people should be able to read something into his play here and actually have opinions on it. That's why I asked you. I struggle to read afk/semi-afk players. It depends strongly on how much they actually follow/care about the game. Both kmatt and prplhz are scummy, if we assume they had a general idea where the game is at.
Mmm. Fair. I mean, I do think you should be able to get more from them, but I don't know if that expectation is realistic (or if I'm reading too much into things).
Frankly, I have you out of my scum pile because of tone and interactions, nothing more. My feels on you are maybe only slightly stronger than those on holyflare. So if I ask you a lot of questions, that's why. Just so you understand where I'm coming from.
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On January 21 2018 20:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 19:33 Mocsta wrote: This is not a reason to lynch homyflare... just a general fact.
He is harder to lynh as the game goes on Whether town or scum
I actually think damerion stupid caae/poke on a good town player is more likely to originate feom town. Almost suicide if scum... outcome is clear from the current sentiment...
To me focus for this lynch is holyflare mderg and perhaps damerion.
I still like twat regardless of disappearing.
What are you even talking about lol? I've been lynched pretty consistently and easily the past few games.
As for you...
Hello. Welcome to the game. If you'd like to join my town circle, please do feel free to actually I don't know make some reads. Help me solve the game. All that fun stuff. The mocsta read is getting old.
You have new information! New thoughts to accompany them?
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im curious why hf said prplhz is town
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if its not clear, curiosity was addressed to HF given he ?was? online
On January 20 2018 06:33 Holyflare wrote: [...] No particular order in brackets. Prplhz is town.
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im happy to clear BTDT by association after reading Darthfoley filter the nitpicking case reminds me of the bullshit he stated for me being scum.
So i think mderg summary below is accurate.
On January 21 2018 19:14 mderg wrote: So this is where I'm at:
Day One Final Vote Count
Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels, Mocsta, Rels beentheredonethat (4): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley, prplhz, Rels darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Holyflare (0): mderg, Mocsta, rsoultin prplhz (0): Mocsta
Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat
Its not unheard of for scum to not vote, but its not something I would be willing to consider at this stage. Even with 2 town being prime bandwagon, the fact that DF was semi-close to a lynch should force a scum kmatt to vote. So kmatt is effectively green for today.
Im still green on TWAT + Rels
2 scum within: damerion, HF, mderg, prplhz
If damdred is the player everyone says he is, its quite the mastermind effort to facillitate a lynch him day1. This points to HF for me by default.
need to know why Hf thinks prplhz is town.
gonna start looking into mderg in more detail
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On January 21 2018 20:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 20:02 Holyflare wrote:On January 21 2018 19:33 Mocsta wrote: This is not a reason to lynch homyflare... just a general fact.
He is harder to lynh as the game goes on Whether town or scum
I actually think damerion stupid caae/poke on a good town player is more likely to originate feom town. Almost suicide if scum... outcome is clear from the current sentiment...
To me focus for this lynch is holyflare mderg and perhaps damerion.
I still like twat regardless of disappearing.
What are you even talking about lol? I've been lynched pretty consistently and easily the past few games. As for you... Hello. Welcome to the game. If you'd like to join my town circle, please do feel free to actually I don't know make some reads. Help me solve the game. All that fun stuff. The mocsta read is getting old. You have new information! New thoughts to accompany them?
I don't think my mocsta read is old at all. His reasons for voting damdred didn't make sense when the post before his vote was literally calling out df. I don't think it's a natural progression in the slightest to share the same read as someone but also be calling them mafia. This is abundantly clear on day 1 from his wishy washy list post that says nothing and these posts are repeated a lot of times. He called me mafia but conveniently couldn't remember any of the points I raised about myself which means he didn't actually read anything I wrote before calling me mafia.
Also don't care about lynching into prplhz/Damerion anymore. Thought prplhz donating his vote to you was towny but he didn't vote with you so definitely lynch. Damerion has no follow up. Nothing to give. Would rather lynch prplhz though over him until he posts.
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On January 21 2018 20:47 Mocsta wrote:im happy to clear BTDT by association after reading Darthfoley filter the nitpicking case reminds me of the bullshit he stated for me being scum. So i think mderg summary below is accurate. Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 19:14 mderg wrote: So this is where I'm at:
Day One Final Vote Count
Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels, Mocsta, Rels beentheredonethat (4): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley, prplhz, Rels darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Holyflare (0): mderg, Mocsta, rsoultin prplhz (0): Mocsta
Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat
Its not unheard of for scum to not vote, but its not something I would be willing to consider at this stage. Even with 2 town being prime bandwagon, the fact that DF was semi-close to a lynch should force a scum kmatt to vote. So kmatt is effectively green for today. Im still green on TWAT + Rels 2 scum within: damerion, HF, mderg, prplhz If damdred is the player everyone says he is, its quite the mastermind effort to facillitate a lynch him day1. This points to HF for me by default. need to know why Hf thinks prplhz is town. gonna start looking into mderg in more detail
Eh, damdred is honestly past his dotage. I adore him. He brought me here, is the sweetest guy on the planet, super intelligent, and he's the reason I met my fiance. But it's been awhile since I've seen a Damdred powerhouse. And, regardless, that's usually not a Day 1 appearance.
Of course, I could be wrong. This is partly based on what Lex has told me in passing (Artanis, the fiance, for those of you not familiar with who I'm talking about) since I stopped playing, and the most recent games I've played with him. I could just not be aware of dazzling play from him in the last 12-18 months or so.
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im actually stuck.
its a series of list posts / summary posts and more lists and summaries.
the vote on btdt is congruent with his list post so the timing makes sense as mafia or town.
the main part confusing me, is that if mafia, he is playing "lone wolf" style.
im kinda leaning, hipster-townie on mderg.. sigh...
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On January 18 2018 20:56 Damdred wrote: And so it begins, the hero Damdred enters the building and surveys the damages already done. The mystery would be solved quickly and efficiently because obviously he is the best at what he does. Throwing a note book down on a table he already had names wrote into it.
Slight Town: Rsoultin Holyflare BTDT
Slight Scum: DF (sorry baby) Mocsta
Life is unfair when such a great player such as Damdred is on the case, forever isolated from society by his genius. He will win this one even if he had to drag town through it kicking and screaming. And for the itch there is a cream for that just so you know.
???
Omgus comes from both alignments but I'd hardly call it unnatural for either?
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holyflare
stop being a doo-doo going post by post in filter is stupid.. timestamps bruh.
so much of what you said is blatantly false...
step up and throw real shit
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On January 21 2018 20:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 20:17 rsoultin wrote:On January 21 2018 20:02 Holyflare wrote:On January 21 2018 19:33 Mocsta wrote: This is not a reason to lynch homyflare... just a general fact.
He is harder to lynh as the game goes on Whether town or scum
I actually think damerion stupid caae/poke on a good town player is more likely to originate feom town. Almost suicide if scum... outcome is clear from the current sentiment...
To me focus for this lynch is holyflare mderg and perhaps damerion.
I still like twat regardless of disappearing.
What are you even talking about lol? I've been lynched pretty consistently and easily the past few games. As for you... Hello. Welcome to the game. If you'd like to join my town circle, please do feel free to actually I don't know make some reads. Help me solve the game. All that fun stuff. The mocsta read is getting old. You have new information! New thoughts to accompany them? I don't think my mocsta read is old at all. His reasons for voting damdred didn't make sense when the post before his vote was literally calling out df. I don't think it's a natural progression in the slightest to share the same read as someone but also be calling them mafia. This is abundantly clear on day 1 from his wishy washy list post that says nothing and these posts are repeated a lot of times. He called me mafia but conveniently couldn't remember any of the points I raised about myself which means he didn't actually read anything I wrote before calling me mafia.Also don't care about lynching into prplhz/Damerion anymore. Thought prplhz donating his vote to you was towny but he didn't vote with you so definitely lynch. Damerion has no follow up. Nothing to give. Would rather lynch prplhz though over him until he posts.
Tina's little devil man on her shoulder is saying "Well, you know, if holyflare is scum this game it's probably with damerion." But that aside, it makes sense from you as town to prefer Damerion, too.
Mrt. Yeah I don't see the wishy washy as scummy wishy washy. I'm wishy-washying all over the damn place. I might be able to figure out what you mean by the bolded filter diving but would you quote, please?
Also I just really find it...at the very least awful play...to be focusing on mocsta in a btdt/damdred town world. Or even just a damdred town world. Why buss the teammate who probably won't be lynched over the one who very well could be with or without you? Though btdt is probably just town, cause why not vote damdred or at least push btdt harder if you're going to buss your scummate anyway?
Doesn't seem scum v. scum to me. You don't see that?
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holflare tactic this game is to claim he has said something, that upon filter dive is so vague no one knows what he is talking about.
prime example is selling the damdred case by saying it initiated it. - i.e. appeal to authority
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On January 21 2018 21:12 Mocsta wrote: holflare tactic this game is to claim he has said something, that upon filter dive is so vague no one knows what he is talking about.
prime example is selling the damdred case by saying it initiated it. - i.e. appeal to authority
Mocsta, dude, can you let him talk? These potshots aren't going to convince me (don't know about anyone else) and I want to evaluate for myself if it makes sense for him to be this tunneled on you.
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On January 21 2018 21:06 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 20:55 Holyflare wrote:On January 21 2018 20:17 rsoultin wrote:On January 21 2018 20:02 Holyflare wrote:On January 21 2018 19:33 Mocsta wrote: This is not a reason to lynch homyflare... just a general fact.
He is harder to lynh as the game goes on Whether town or scum
I actually think damerion stupid caae/poke on a good town player is more likely to originate feom town. Almost suicide if scum... outcome is clear from the current sentiment...
To me focus for this lynch is holyflare mderg and perhaps damerion.
I still like twat regardless of disappearing.
What are you even talking about lol? I've been lynched pretty consistently and easily the past few games. As for you... Hello. Welcome to the game. If you'd like to join my town circle, please do feel free to actually I don't know make some reads. Help me solve the game. All that fun stuff. The mocsta read is getting old. You have new information! New thoughts to accompany them? I don't think my mocsta read is old at all. His reasons for voting damdred didn't make sense when the post before his vote was literally calling out df. I don't think it's a natural progression in the slightest to share the same read as someone but also be calling them mafia. This is abundantly clear on day 1 from his wishy washy list post that says nothing and these posts are repeated a lot of times. He called me mafia but conveniently couldn't remember any of the points I raised about myself which means he didn't actually read anything I wrote before calling me mafia.Also don't care about lynching into prplhz/Damerion anymore. Thought prplhz donating his vote to you was towny but he didn't vote with you so definitely lynch. Damerion has no follow up. Nothing to give. Would rather lynch prplhz though over him until he posts. Tina's little devil man on her shoulder is saying "Well, you know, if holyflare is scum this game it's probably with damerion." But that aside, it makes sense from you as town to prefer Damerion, too. Mrt. Yeah I don't see the wishy washy as scummy wishy washy. I'm wishy-washying all over the damn place. I might be able to figure out what you mean by the bolded filter diving but would you quote, please? Also I just really find it...at the very least awful play...to be focusing on mocsta in a btdt/damdred town world. Or even just a damdred town world. Why buss the teammate who probably won't be lynched over the one who very well could be with or without you? Though btdt is probably just town, cause why not vote damdred or at least push btdt harder if you're going to buss your scummate anyway? Doesn't seem scum v. scum to me. You don't see that?
Mocsta wasn't around at deadline as far as I remember and he voted damdred before any other wagon started.
He even criticises me for voting damdred for behaviour reasons and not motive reasons whatever that means.
I am also not going to quote anything until I get home and can be bothered to quote.
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I also don't understand what you mean about a btdt/damdred town world and him not being mafia?
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