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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/oh-my-takei.gif) Day 2 KelsierSC the Town Vigilante has died. darthfoley the Mafia Goon has died. You have 46 hours to vote for your preferred lynch. The deadline is Monday, Jan 22 11:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in . Voting is mandatory and must be done in the voting thread. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Good work kelsier | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
You know that feel you get when you happened to be trying to lynch scum, but had no strong conviction that they were scum? This is where town reads help an rsoul be less wrong lol. ;o; Now I'll have to sign up for another game to get my town KSC fix. On January 21 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote: No, seriously, I've already explained it is? How is that inflammatory in any way? I posted that because I wanted to argue with you again and then just went fuck it. You're fine. Well, I mean, you were dead wrong on Damdred, and I still think you're dead wrong about Damerion's play here versus his earlier town games, and it bugs me that you so confidently argue against something I see to be indisputably, objectively true. But it's not inflammatory, just aggravating. (Also recognize that I could just be failing to communicate my point effectively.) Moreso when I'm coming around to you just being town, mostly because you actually give a shit as to whether you're provoking me or not which I think is more likely to come from town holyflare. Yes, despite the darthfoley scum flip. Cause I'm weird and value tone perhaps too much. But anyway. I need to revisit my damerion read as it is...I don't think the night kill necessarily makes me wrong but at best they looked elsewhere cause likely docsave, and at worst I'm not seen as a threat because I'm on the wrong track. Would be sick if it was just darthfoley/damerion/prp though and I actually have been having one of my more accurate town games  | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On January 20 2018 08:49 mderg wrote: Kelsier is scum btw Only a little bit off here... | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
I was going to say that btdt and mocsta are probably just town for this but then I waffled. In part because darth foley's scum call-out when he returned to the thread would then be all townies which is possible but...idk I feel like usually there's a scum in there. If btdt is scum, then darth foley focusing on mocsta and pushing that pretty hard while more or less ignoring Damdred and failing to take a stance there seems odd. It's a buss on btdt that doesn't get him any credit if btdt flips because he never really pushed it. Then again, it could have been an early scum v. scum callout that he then felt he couldn't back out of but didn't want to push. I just find it weird he doesn't then angle for 'finding' Damdred scum when he had no strong position on him anyway. If mocsta is scum, darth foley isn't playing a very good scum game. He's bussing a scummate pretty hard while two townies are up for lynch, and then himself. No, mocsta is unlikely to become the lynch, but it's not ideal for his own survival and there's not much town cred you can get from that later if mocsta flips scum. Since playing poorly is not outside the realm of possibility, though, that line of thinking gets me nowhere. All three being scum also seems unlikely. I think I'd rather not lynch btdt and mocsta today. Mocsta cause tonally I still find him townish, btdt because Day 1 seems weird if he's scum with darth foley and I keep hoping he'll give us more to go on. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
-pokes- Where you at on the game mderg? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Note hf setting up for day2 lynch focus before damdred flipped Note his day2 target was damdred prime target I asked before if i should expect more from town hf. The answer is unequivocally yes. The lack of activity i get. We are all busy. Its the "confirmation bias" hf is applying kn things that are clearly not alignment indicativr... same thing as darthfoley. Since when is a case built on "minutia" indicative of town or mafia to quote df. Btw... check out kelsier reads before lynch and the kill is staring to make lots of sense | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
Day One Final Vote Count Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, beentheredonethat (4): darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Holyflare (0): prplhz (0): Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat I think we can clear btdt because df voting him makes no sense here, if they're both scum. One vote switch would get btdt lynched. Similarly we can clear rsoultin on the df wagon. That's not telling us anything new, though. I also think Mocsta is town based on his interactions with df. So this is where I'm at: Day One Final Vote Count Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, beentheredonethat (4): darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Holyflare (0): prplhz (0): Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat That leaves us with: TheTwatyEvildoer: Looked pretty townish to me but then dropped off the face of the earth, wouldn't lynch right now, though Kmatt: Could be scum could be town but how do you honestly read him at this point? Damerion: Didn't like his case and tunnel on Damdred. Did look somewhat close to his usual town game but with some differences. Would lynch. Rels: Didn't like him at the start, felt better later on. Switching between two town wagons at the end would be plausible as scum. Could imagine lynching him. prplhz: No idea how to read him from his posts. Probably not scum together with Rels because I don't think all 3 scum would be on the same wagon. Holyflare: Felt more like hf but his reads look like how mafia would want to lynch. Would lynch. mderg: I'm obviously town | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On January 21 2018 19:12 Mocsta wrote: Rsoultin Note hf setting up for day2 lynch focus before damdred flipped Note his day2 target was damdred prime target I asked before if i should expect more from town hf. The answer is unequivocally yes. The lack of activity i get. We are all busy. Its the "confirmation bias" hf is applying kn things that are clearly not alignment indicativr... same thing as darthfoley. Since when is a case built on "minutia" indicative of town or mafia to quote df. Btw... check out kelsier reads before lynch and the kill is staring to make lots of sense I'll be the first to admit that I could be wrong on holyflare. It's hardly like I can decide what alignment he is anyway. That said... KSC's final reads were darth, hf, and damerion. We know that darth was scum. I also want to lynch damerion. Two out of three is more than enough to encourage a nightkill, and we don't know if they had a blue read on him or not, nor do we know if they were concerned about a possible doc in the game. I don't think that his being shot confirms holyflare (or damerion, for that matter) scum -shrugs- He was the one to lead the darth foley lynch, and I agreed that his reasons were better than mine for btdt, plus Damdred didn't want to lynch btdt even over himself. That alone can get a guy shot. I don't want to let a scum holyflare get away. But he's not being a blind stubborn mule, just a mule, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point. Dumb as that may end up being. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On January 21 2018 19:14 mderg wrote: Taking a look at the votes: I think we can clear btdt because df voting him makes no sense here, if they're both scum. One vote switch would get btdt lynched. Similarly we can clear rsoultin on the df wagon. That's not telling us anything new, though. I also think Mocsta is town based on his interactions with df. So this is where I'm at: That leaves us with: TheTwatyEvildoer: Looked pretty townish to me but then dropped off the face of the earth, wouldn't lynch right now, though Kmatt: Could be scum could be town but how do you honestly read him at this point? Damerion: Didn't like his case and tunnel on Damdred. Did look somewhat close to his usual town game but with some differences. Would lynch. Rels: Didn't like him at the start, felt better later on. Switching between two town wagons at the end would be plausible as scum. Could imagine lynching him. prplhz: No idea how to read him from his posts. Probably not scum together with Rels because I don't think all 3 scum would be on the same wagon. Holyflare: Felt more like hf but his reads look like how mafia would want to lynch. Would lynch. mderg: I'm obviously town Kmatt, alone of the afk'd players, was actually active around the lynch without voting. What does that say to you? Regarding rels, what is it that makes you think he could be scum? Switching between two town lynches doesn't make him town, sure, and could be staged. But there's also little incentive for scum to care in that situation. For that matter, me not voting to save Damdred could be considered scummy. I know that I was a boob writing a post while the vote changes happened, but you don't know that that's true or not. You don't agree with me that prp saying he'll vote with me and then not voting with me on scum darth foley looks scummy? Why not? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On January 21 2018 19:28 mderg wrote: Giving hf the benefit of the doubt is not something I would be comfortable with By benefit of the doubt, I mean, I want to continue to evaluate him and probably will not lynch him today unless the alternative is someone I'm townreading -shrugs- | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
He is harder to lynh as the game goes on Whether town or scum I actually think damerion stupid caae/poke on a good town player is more likely to originate feom town. Almost suicide if scum... outcome is clear from the current sentiment... To me focus for this lynch is holyflare mderg and perhaps damerion. I still like twat regardless of disappearing. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Good point abouy prplhz Its odd he isnt up to date with thr game yet knows to trust your vote? Quiten brazen if town now i think about it more | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Holyflare is the guy that calls damdred scum for thinking me and darthfoley are scum Yet thinks im scum with damdred..... Town hf is not this infallible | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
So when he won't vote with me on scum afterwards...well, he'll have to start shitting town rainbows for me to change my mind. I know how hard it is to lynch holyflare. Trust me. I called out his whole four-man scum team when he had a red check on him, and clear ties to what later became flipped scum mates, and town still derped. He just recently fooled me playing with a 'let's force players to speak Russian' mechanic that raynepelikoneet thought it important to give scum after letting scum actually pick their own scum team. And not making it clear that they could do that. Bastardized game. And on top of that, I think holyflare and I have the highest rate of being opposite alignments on the entire site. So believe me when I say I am predisposed to suspect him. Yet still...I don't know. Something about him feels town this game despite being wrong and his reaction to darth foley. I'd feel more comfortable lynching someone else. I will lynch him in the absence of better options. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On January 21 2018 19:29 rsoultin wrote: Kmatt, alone of the afk'd players, was actually active around the lynch without voting. What does that say to you? Regarding rels, what is it that makes you think he could be scum? Switching between two town lynches doesn't make him town, sure, and could be staged. But there's also little incentive for scum to care in that situation. For that matter, me not voting to save Damdred could be considered scummy. I know that I was a boob writing a post while the vote changes happened, but you don't know that that's true or not. You don't agree with me that prp saying he'll vote with me and then not voting with me on scum darth foley looks scummy? Why not? It honestly doesn't tell me much about kmatt, what should it tell me? I've just now skimmed through his filter and have to say that it looks a bit different from what I thought it looked like. Pressure on df and hf looks good. Doesn't like damerion. Would be stupid to lynch him at this point. I don't know about prplhz. I don't know enough about him and df as players to judge how much sense his reasoning made. I definitely wouldn't play like that as town, though. | ||
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