EPTLooks to be relating to news and some sort of analysis of his ban situation.
Anyone able to give us a basic rundown? Much appreciated!
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Looks to be relating to news and some sort of analysis of his ban situation. Anyone able to give us a basic rundown? Much appreciated! Link | ||
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epjx31
United Kingdom324 Posts
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jinjin5000
Korea (South)1357 Posts
http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=189878&site=sc + Show Spoiler + Q. 스타크래프트가 리마스터 버전이 나오면서 뜰 것 같은 기대가 컸어요. 그런데 오히려 인기가 줄어들었다는 말이 많이 나오고 있습니다. Q: There was a lot of excitement about remastered and its implication on growing the scene. But instead, theres a lot of talk on the popularity decreasing instead. + Show Spoiler + 솔직히, 저는 리마스터 이전으로 돌아가고 싶어요. 그때는 아프리카tv BJ들이 모두 흥했거든요. 함께 팀 배틀을 활발하게 진행할 수 있었죠. 제 방송은 이전이나 지금이나 똑같아요. 그런데, 리마스터가 나오면서 서버가 불안해지기 시작했어요. 팀 배틀 진행을 못하면서 힘들어진 BJ들이 많더라고요. 그 분들한테는 팀 배틀에서 몇 번의 승리가 굉장히 중요하거든요. 한 2-3달 동안 팀 배틀을 서버 때문에 못하게 되니까 방송을 제대로 못하게 되는 경우가 생겼습니다. Flash: To be completely honest, I want to go back to time before remaster release. Then, all the Afreeca streamers were lively. The scene was able to do lively team battles together. My stream, on other hand, has been the same as then and now. However, the servers began to be unstable when remaster first came out. There was also lot of streamers who were in difficult situation due to not being able to continue on with the team battles. To those people, wins in team battles were very important. Since they were not able to do team battle for around 2-3 months due to server instability, there were lot of cases where they were not able to stream properly due to it. + Show Spoiler + 현재 서버 문제는 해결됐어요. 그런데 당시 여파가 지금까지 이어지는 분들이 있더라고요. 예전에는 다 같이 잘 됐다면, 지금은 특정 방으로 시청자들이 몰리는 현상이 나타났죠. 물론, 블리자드의 사정도 있겠지만, 너무 늦게 해결된 게 아닌가... 스타크래프트를 좋아하는 팬으로서 리마스터에 정말 큰 기대를 했는데 아쉬움이 컸습니다. 그래도 요새 다시 팀 배틀이 활성화되면서 다시 살아나는 분위기가 형성됐어요. Flash: As for now, server problems are solved. But the aftermath from then could be felt until today. Before this, everyone did well together, but now, the most viewers tend to congregate into a specific stream instead. Well, Blizzard has their own reasons, but I feel like that the issues were solved too late… As a fan of StarCraft, I looked forward to Remastered a lot, but it was a huge letdown. But even then, the team battles are revived a bit nowadays, and there is an atmosphere of revival. ------ notes: Interview had other points such as big talk about the issue of Tesagi and how it boomed into bw scene when sea won vs bisu 3:0. Will touch it later if nobody touches it but i have finals week. team battles are sort of like clan wars, with multiple people obsing in 1 room full of clan members. Included teams such as Moo, Neox, ect. The lagging of the room with multiple people is rather bigger issue than people give credit for, as well as breaking clan system and clan rooms. (Rather minor, but still takes away part of customization) BJ=broadcast jockey=Streamers | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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Deimos
Mexico134 Posts
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
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jinjin5000
Korea (South)1357 Posts
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KameZerg
Sweden1745 Posts
On November 28 2017 01:48 Deimos wrote: This is the video on Iris youtube channel about SAviOr Return .. a translation will be great, but i think is only to create controversy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp8w4SSMSnc He won't even say his name, all Iris calls him is Mr. M | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On November 27 2017 14:42 jinjin5000 wrote: little tibit from the recent flash interview from inven http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=189878&site=sc + Show Spoiler + Q. 스타크래프트가 리마스터 버전이 나오면서 뜰 것 같은 기대가 컸어요. 그런데 오히려 인기가 줄어들었다는 말이 많이 나오고 있습니다. Q: There was a lot of excitement about remastered and its implication on growing the scene. But instead, theres a lot of talk on the popularity decreasing instead. + Show Spoiler + 솔직히, 저는 리마스터 이전으로 돌아가고 싶어요. 그때는 아프리카tv BJ들이 모두 흥했거든요. 함께 팀 배틀을 활발하게 진행할 수 있었죠. 제 방송은 이전이나 지금이나 똑같아요. 그런데, 리마스터가 나오면서 서버가 불안해지기 시작했어요. 팀 배틀 진행을 못하면서 힘들어진 BJ들이 많더라고요. 그 분들한테는 팀 배틀에서 몇 번의 승리가 굉장히 중요하거든요. 한 2-3달 동안 팀 배틀을 서버 때문에 못하게 되니까 방송을 제대로 못하게 되는 경우가 생겼습니다. Flash: To be completely honest, I want to go back to time before remaster release. Then, all the Afreeca streamers were lively. The scene was able to do lively team battles together. My stream, on other hand, has been the same as then and now. However, the servers began to be unstable when remaster first came out. There was also lot of streamers who were in difficult situation due to not being able to continue on with the team battles. To those people, wins in team battles were very important. Since they were not able to do team battle for around 2-3 months due to server instability, there were lot of cases where they were not able to stream properly due to it. + Show Spoiler + 현재 서버 문제는 해결됐어요. 그런데 당시 여파가 지금까지 이어지는 분들이 있더라고요. 예전에는 다 같이 잘 됐다면, 지금은 특정 방으로 시청자들이 몰리는 현상이 나타났죠. 물론, 블리자드의 사정도 있겠지만, 너무 늦게 해결된 게 아닌가... 스타크래프트를 좋아하는 팬으로서 리마스터에 정말 큰 기대를 했는데 아쉬움이 컸습니다. 그래도 요새 다시 팀 배틀이 활성화되면서 다시 살아나는 분위기가 형성됐어요. Flash: As for now, server problems are solved. But the aftermath from then could be felt until today. Before this, everyone did well together, but now, the most viewers tend to congregate into a specific stream instead. Well, Blizzard has their own reasons, but I feel like that the issues were solved too late… As a fan of StarCraft, I looked forward to Remastered a lot, but it was a huge letdown. But even then, the team battles are revived a bit nowadays, and there is an atmosphere of revival. ------ notes: Interview had other points such as big talk about the issue of Tesagi and how it boomed into bw scene when sea won vs bisu 3:0. Will touch it later if nobody touches it but i have finals week. team battles are sort of like clan wars, with multiple people obsing in 1 room full of clan members. Included teams such as Moo, Neox, ect. The lagging of the room with multiple people is rather bigger issue than people give credit for, as well as breaking clan system and clan rooms. (Rather minor, but still takes away part of customization) BJ=broadcast jockey=Streamers Thanks for the translation. Good luck with your finals! I hope someone translates the talk about tesagi. Tinyland had a translation video of pros discussing it but it wasn't very deep and seemed kind of like they were joking, maybe. A number of people have been complaining regardless, but I just don't see it myself. It'd be nice to hear what Flash thinks. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
Thanks jinjin for the translation! | ||
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jinjin5000
Korea (South)1357 Posts
On November 28 2017 07:37 BigFan wrote: ^ that tinyland video was pretty bad because it indirectly helped spark tesagi talks. The pros were making jokes and laughing at the complaints yet so many people took it as a serious video and started complaining every time a terran won, not realizing that it's only Flash that seems to go far and win from all the terrans out there. Thanks jinjin for the translation! it wasn't the tiny land video that affected korean tesagi spam tho. It was sea talking about it after he won vs bisu and "acknowledging" Tesagi | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On November 28 2017 08:18 jinjin5000 wrote: it wasn't the tiny land video that affected korean tesagi spam tho. It was sea talking about it after he won vs bisu and "acknowledging" Tesagi Not sure about the KR side but for the foreign scene, I believe that video was the spark here. | ||
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jinjin5000
Korea (South)1357 Posts
On November 28 2017 08:26 BigFan wrote: Not sure about the KR side but for the foreign scene, I believe that video was the spark here. That is true. But tesagi meme has been prevalent in korea scene since Sea brought that word up | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Further more, I don't think Flash has been wise with words like Jaedong or Bisu, despite having similar levels of repercussion for every little thing he says. Stork is another icon who created unnecessary drama for himself by being too open with his personal opinions, instead of taking a second to avert avoidable hassle. I think this issue is more of a dynamic Flash has created between himself and his anti-fans, than anything that is truly related to the actual balance of the game itself. Every legend of the game gets undeserved provocation from their followers, and it is part of being a public figure. Not everyone deals with it in the most prudent manner, and with greater opportunities of the constant back and forth that comes with streaming, every little possible interaction that could go wrong gets amplified to a greater degree. I personally think this has been one of those cases. | ||
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jinjin5000
Korea (South)1357 Posts
On November 28 2017 10:53 Letmelose wrote: It is indeed disgusting how far people are willing to go just to harass Flash, and it is mostly just a means to get him riled up. Memes about terran being over-powered has been around since forever, but the fact that Flash reacts so emotionally to this jibe did make matters somewhat worse. He gave life to an old, tired meme by adding the element of trolling to it, because his reactions to the comments were a spectacle in itself to the trolls. Further more, I don't think Flash has been wise with words like Jaedong or Bisu, despite having similar levels of repercussion for every little thing he says. Stork is another icon who created unnecessary drama for himself by being too open with his personal opinions, instead of taking a second to avert avoidable hassle. I think this issue is more of a dynamic Flash has created between himself and his anti-fans, than anything that is truly related to the actual balance of the game itself. Every legend of the game gets undeserved provocation from their followers, and it is part of being a public figure. Not everyone deals with it in the most prudent manner, and with greater opportunities of the constant back and forth that comes with streaming, every little possible interaction that could go wrong gets amplified to a greater degree. I personally think this has been one of those cases. I see 뱅피셜 every day lmao. I like stork's open book policy but it fuels meme train so hard. | ||
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Deimos
Mexico134 Posts
On November 28 2017 04:09 jinjin5000 wrote: Deimos, it's already been posted and it's nothing worth going over. Look at thread before please. Sorry bro, but can me provide a link, because the search engine on TL is bad and i found anything about it! | ||
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Maks
Ukraine167 Posts
On November 28 2017 07:37 BigFan wrote: ^ that tinyland video was pretty bad because it indirectly helped spark tesagi talks. It's even worse. It makes me quit SC after ten years of watching and playing it But I've got a lot of free time now  | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3088 Posts
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Siz)Beggar
United States337 Posts
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jinjin5000
Korea (South)1357 Posts
On November 29 2017 05:44 NoS-Craig wrote: Damn, I didn't think that Tinyland video did that much damage. I've liked his videos so far to. I thought it was fun and reflective of what was going on in korea trust me, this tesagi meme is hot as fuck in korea. Its not tinyland video doing damage, its just showing glimpse of monster of what Sea's tesagi meme became | ||
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