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Oatsmaster
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VisceraEyes
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Oatsmaster
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On November 21 2017 08:50 VisceraEyes wrote: He's always been town imo. He tattles as town and as mafia he like, does the whole AHAAA!!!! thing. Meh, as mafia Im just generally better at playing the game cause I actually think before posting | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On November 21 2017 08:52 VisceraEyes wrote: It's just really easy math. For most people townPalmar is just sheepable, and when Palmar said he liked Conversion, that signaled that he was town to Conversion. Vis a vis, that made him sheepable. What part of "I wanna know why conversion thought palmar was town is difficult to understand? I don't want to hear your speculation lol | ||
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Z-BosoN
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Conversion I'm sus of I guess? Don't know how to interpret our little exchange. VE/Palmar might have a rotten fruit, but might not. Definitely one of those two options though. Need to reevaluate reads on DF, Kelsier, ruxxar, all of which seemed pretty townie to me. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Z-BosoN
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On November 21 2017 09:01 Oatsmaster wrote: Chez really? Elimination I guess. He may have been busy irl, but today was a total no show for him. He also went through the trouble of finding a particular post I made in 2013 where I was defending him. That can be interpreted either way, either as a mafia brag or as just a random thing that any Chez would do. He mentioned he was telling me this so as to not get shot by mafia and not to look too townie, but his non-factor today would have been enough for that. Dunno. | ||
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Conversion
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work was pissing me off and I should have just calmed down before posting going to catch up now | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On November 21 2017 09:05 Z-BosoN wrote: Elimination I guess. He may have been busy irl, but today was a total no show for him. He also went through the trouble of finding a particular post I made in 2013 where I was defending him. That can be interpreted either way, either as a mafia brag or as just a random thing that any Chez would do. He mentioned he was telling me this so as to not get shot by mafia and not to look too townie, but his non-factor today would have been enough for that. Dunno. Alright, I don't think that inactivity means anything if it's just one long block | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On November 21 2017 09:36 Conversion wrote: alright before I catch up I want to apologize to Boson work was pissing me off and I should have just calmed down before posting going to catch up now Don't take things personally, it's just a game. | ||
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Conversion
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On November 21 2017 08:54 Oatsmaster wrote: What part of "I wanna know why conversion thought palmar was town is difficult to understand? I don't want to hear your speculation lol I wanted df more alive than I wanted stan dead that’s all. I wasn’t willing to budge unless other people were | ||
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Conversion
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VisceraEyes
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On November 21 2017 08:54 Oatsmaster wrote: What part of "I wanna know why conversion thought palmar was town is difficult to understand? I don't want to hear your speculation lol What part of "reading the thread answers this question" is hard to understand? Im not speculating Im observing. I like you though Oats, I support your inquisition. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On November 21 2017 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote: What part of "reading the thread answers this question" is hard to understand? Im not speculating Im observing. I like you though Oats, I support your inquisition. its an inference though, i want conversion to say something directly | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Oatsmaster
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On November 21 2017 10:43 VisceraEyes wrote: What you think of TW? hes town | ||
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Chezinu
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I'm Chezinu! + Show Spoiler + *cries* the betrays... Darth said he would lunch me and now boson no likes me cause I work? I am thankful that the mafia won't kill me tonight and that they will respect Brown Day. | ||
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Chezinu
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 HF is bye bye. | ||
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Chezinu
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On November 21 2017 09:05 Z-BosoN wrote: Elimination I guess. He may have been busy irl, but today was a total no show for him. He also went through the trouble of finding a particular post I made in 2013 where I was defending him. That can be interpreted either way, either as a mafia brag or as just a random thing that any Chez would do. He mentioned he was telling me this so as to not get shot by mafia and not to look too townie, but his non-factor today would have been enough for that. Dunno. It's ok Boson!!!! I'm going make tonight. You have to make the mafia think you want to lynch in the morrow. I can crazy by myself!! I can make them think they can lynch me. I love you boson!!! Wounds from friends can be trusted. I see you accuse me to protects me.. I understand.. You're a great friend. On July 26 2013 07:56 Z-BosoN wrote: No, I think Malongo's play is very bad for town, and I haven't read koshi's filter yet. Like I said, I originially thought Malongo's play to be weird-as-fuck to make from a scum POV. However, remember Chezinu from nuclear mafia? Nuking MZ,a townie looking dude, for little reason? I thought that same thing, and disregarded any anti-town play coming up from chezinu. You can't base too much off of one action. What I do know is that Malongo's play is 100% anti-town, and thus town will benefit from killing him, regardless of his alignment. And who knows, he might actually flip scum. Think gumshoe from Nuclear, WIFOM ninja-voting. I do not regret that lynch. Same logic imo. I've played in a game once where it ended up with grush and BillMurray (two vets who are pretty trolly and useless) in the endgame, with DarthPunk as scum. It was sad to see town ignore an uncounterclaimed cop's reads leading to the endgame and then losing, despite the game already been solved. Don't you agree, ShiaoPi? (he was the cop) Anyways, my point is that D1 is likely a mislynch, so lets mislynch someone who we know is bad for town. This will be the case unless Malongo decides to post and contribute with anything useful. If I were a bunker, I would be a bank. | ||
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Chezinu
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On August 22 2012 04:41 Z-BosoN wrote: @Stutters He has been fishing roles all game? I don't remember this, can you please find where? The only thing I can recall is him interpreting a dubious thrawn quote to say why he thinks thrawn is blue. You basically said what's been said all game. YH uses WIFOM, is inconsistent, keeps changing his mind without specifying why. This to me is very scummy, as I've made clear for quite some time. But I will one-up this argument, I think I found something that, in my opinion will give a strong case against him. Case against YourHarry I will not go over again how stupid and confusing and useless his posting is, how that looks scummy, etc. Ladies and gentlemen, the first thing YH says: I am not sure which meta I will choose this game  .I am not sure which meta I will choose this game .I am not sure which meta I will choose this game .He clearly indicated that he wants to follow a certain meta. Apparently, he has already decided which one it is. He is thriving on confusion. Look at some of his quotes from previous games: + Show Spoiler + Release, I am not Grush. I didn't particularly find lazer monkey's post scummy. This is a newbie game. He is simply providing some guidelines on what townies should avoid - since (I assume) that his previous games have been tainted by vanilla towns claiming power roles. BTW, I am not OMGUSing Jingle. I just find it difficult to understand why he finds me scummy, since I think I explained myself and answered all of his questions. When someone is focusing his accusation on a player based on reasonable evidence, that someone could be town or scum. But when someone is stubborn about his accusation on a player, even after the accused player adequately explained himself, I think that someone is likely to be scum. Maybe he is not satisfied with my answers. If so, Jingle, please tell me what you still think I am scum. Here, someone may question whether my initial vote against Hopeless also makes me scummy for above reason. But as I explained, I don't particularly find him scummy and my initial attempt to incite responses from him and others did partially succeed - mostly in the forms of accusations toward me. ##Unvote ##Vote Jingle Release: I maintain that it was not an OMGUS battle, at least from my perspective. I had valid reason, at least from what little was available at the time, to suspect Jingle. And if Jingle is scum, my quick reconciliation is not necessarily scummy. At best, it's WIFOM. One can argue that scums would be hesitant to dismiss each other's scuminess, in fear that 1) obvious buddying may make both of them suspicious, exactly how you are suspecting both of us 2) other's scum flip will incriminate them. Either way, my actions on end of day 1 to place the one of the deciding votes on Hopeless (especially when I previously expressed my opinion that I didn't think hopeless was particularly scummy, I could have easily justified my vote against someone else) and my willingness to vote against Jingle now should make me unlikely to be scum. Also, in regards to miller providing a difficulty for town victory: miller counters mafia role cop and detective is soft countered by miller. Mafia role cop is gone and detective is still alive. So, miller's value to town is at extreme minimum. Of course, if detective was nonexistant, miller would be as good as vanilla townie. The reason why medic shouldn't claim is obvious. Night2, the scum would roleblock medic and nightkill the detective. Medic role claiming does not allow us to gather any additional information on alignment of other players. However, this means that we must come up with a consensus on who we want to lynch way prior to the deadline so that medic does have a chance to roleclaim if somehow he gets picked to be lynched. The reason for power role claiming immediately if they received the positive result is also evident. This is because what we will do today would be clearly decided: lynch whoever received the positive result. This also allows medic to anonymously protect the powerrole who got the positive result. The reason for claiming in order is because we don't want two power roles to reveal their identity unless it gives us additional information. This prevents second power role role claiming just in case they targeted the same player at night. I think detective claiming first makes sense, because it is a more important role - so this allows medic to protect him at night. This is some quotes from his previous game as townie. Notice the difference? He still throws information around a bit, but notice how it is toned down and how much more reasonable he seems. One of the first things I have said in this game is that analyzing meta is weak and doesn't constitute arguments. However, YourHarry has been constantly playing the meta game, and even said so himself in the beggining of the game. He has decided he wants to be as confusing as possible, as random, as wishy-washy as he can. Another thing that I noticed is generally not done is analyzing the nk's. Oh, Jhuyt just died, but he was such a strong scum suspect. O well, WIFOM, scum wants us to think that blah blah blah. Not in YourHarry's case. The only consistent thing he's done is be confusing. I'm sure we can all agree with that. I raise now two points: 1) Why would this be the meta to go for a town YourHarry? Isn't it weird how much better his play was as townie in past games? Why would town Harry want to be as confusing as possible? 2) Jhuyt nk was confusing as hell. This entirely fits YH's profile this game. I cannot for the life of me come up with a better reason to kill JHuyt other than just try to confuse town. Since YH right now is confusion in person, this raises an uncanny coincidence. But Z-BosoN! 2) is WIFOM and analyzing meta is weak! Well, imaginary doubting friend, I don't think that this applies here. YH is strictly playing a meta game, and not ONCE did he abandon it. He's drowning in WIFOM, but I doubt that he would have considered this when deciding who a scum YH would want to kill, because up until now, all we've done is analyze the garbage he jams on his keyboard, but not the overall picture. Let's stop wasting time trying to think what a scum Harry would do, and think more about how a scum Harry would act. So there it is folks, I think this makes a lot of sense, and should give you one more powerful reason as to why YH is SCUM!. Think about it and tell me what you guys think. I think this is the best option right now, I can't think of a stronger reason to lynch someone else. ##Vote YourHarry You were right that he was mafia. | ||
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