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On December 14 2016 19:17 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:13 Elentos wrote:On December 14 2016 19:10 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: MARU WON?!
TvT, back to having the best comeback potential. Maru was never really behind because he always kept his huge tank lead. All ByuN could do was run away from his army and lose units on the retreat. Guess now that the tankivac's gone Maru's back to top 1 TvT Maru was already best tvter with tankivacs. didn't he have almost a 100% winrate in tvt? before the loss vs TY ofc The thing is that outside of Proleague which is BO1 he only had very few longer series against good players. And in the biggest match he lost. He was not the best TvTer right before the patch came out, let's just say that.
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On December 14 2016 19:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:19 Elentos wrote:On December 14 2016 19:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 14 2016 19:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:08 Incognoto wrote: the mechanic of using the liberator to force an unsiege is very interesting Disagree heavily, due to the liberator range it seems very stupid to me In practice it's pretty fair though. Right now, i wonder if players didn't figure it out yet though. Air advantage with some libs seems broken to me in theory I've seen Maru and TY do it. The problem is often that you can sacrifice a few marines to clear out a liberator. If you're behind on air on even armies you have more marines anyway. Maybe, i feel like you could "easily" position your army to deny that though considering the range of libs The range of liberators is really low before you get the upgrade but you can only afford that really late into the game.
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On December 14 2016 19:22 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:17 Charoisaur wrote:On December 14 2016 19:13 Elentos wrote:On December 14 2016 19:10 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: MARU WON?!
TvT, back to having the best comeback potential. Maru was never really behind because he always kept his huge tank lead. All ByuN could do was run away from his army and lose units on the retreat. Guess now that the tankivac's gone Maru's back to top 1 TvT Maru was already best tvter with tankivacs. didn't he have almost a 100% winrate in tvt? before the loss vs TY ofc The thing is that outside of Proleague which is BO1 he only had very few longer series against good players. And in the biggest match he lost. He was not the best TvTer before the patch came out, let's just say that. yeah Byun was probably #1 above Maru and TY.
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well thats it
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That might even be game already against ByuL
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why the hell did jjakji not veto whirlwind? that's by far the worst tvz map.
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On December 14 2016 19:24 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:19 Elentos wrote:On December 14 2016 19:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 14 2016 19:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:08 Incognoto wrote: the mechanic of using the liberator to force an unsiege is very interesting Disagree heavily, due to the liberator range it seems very stupid to me In practice it's pretty fair though. Right now, i wonder if players didn't figure it out yet though. Air advantage with some libs seems broken to me in theory I've seen Maru and TY do it. The problem is often that you can sacrifice a few marines to clear out a liberator. If you're behind on air on even armies you have more marines anyway. Maybe, i feel like you could "easily" position your army to deny that though considering the range of libs The range of liberators is really low before you get the upgrade but you can only afford that really late into the game.
However, given the casting range, the actual maximum distance a Liberator can reach is theoretically 10 without the upgrade, and 14 with the upgrade Seems good to me tbh
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Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M
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On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate
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ByuL better beat Classic this time -. -
last series should've been a 2-0
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well, time to cheer for ByuN and Maru then!
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On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate 3-rax is the only thing that's 100% a loss when I do it
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On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate I have 70% winrate against zerg but 40 in the other 2 matchups
On December 14 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate 3-rax is the only thing that's 100% a loss when I do it same for me..
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On December 14 2016 19:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:24 Elentos wrote:On December 14 2016 19:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:19 Elentos wrote:On December 14 2016 19:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 14 2016 19:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:08 Incognoto wrote: the mechanic of using the liberator to force an unsiege is very interesting Disagree heavily, due to the liberator range it seems very stupid to me In practice it's pretty fair though. Right now, i wonder if players didn't figure it out yet though. Air advantage with some libs seems broken to me in theory I've seen Maru and TY do it. The problem is often that you can sacrifice a few marines to clear out a liberator. If you're behind on air on even armies you have more marines anyway. Maybe, i feel like you could "easily" position your army to deny that though considering the range of libs The range of liberators is really low before you get the upgrade but you can only afford that really late into the game. Show nested quote +However, given the casting range, the actual maximum distance a Liberator can reach is theoretically 10 without the upgrade, and 14 with the upgrade Seems good to me tbh Half of that is the radius of the circle, in reality the liberator is way closer.
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On December 14 2016 19:31 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate I have 70% winrate against zerg but 40 in the other 2 matchups Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate 3-rax is the only thing that's 100% a loss when I do it same for me.. I'm at like 60% for TvZ, 55% for TvT and 45% for TvP
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IA is looking sharp against Solar. Decent lead
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On December 14 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate 3-rax is the only thing that's 100% a loss when I do it Well not that i win with the reapers, but usually i can transition and the zerg builds way too much defense
On December 14 2016 19:31 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate I have 70% winrate against zerg but 40 in the other 2 matchups Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate 3-rax is the only thing that's 100% a loss when I do it same for me..
On December 14 2016 19:33 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 19:31 Charoisaur wrote:On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate I have 70% winrate against zerg but 40 in the other 2 matchups On December 14 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote: Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate 3-rax is the only thing that's 100% a loss when I do it same for me.. I'm at like 60% for TvZ, 55% for TvT and 45% for TvP
I am at like 40% tvz, 55% tvp and 70% tvt
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Actually...I think Solar is dead >_>
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