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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16033 Posts
December 14 2016 10:36 GMT
#661
On December 14 2016 19:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On December 14 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote:
Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M

The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate

3-rax is the only thing that's 100% a loss when I do it

Well not that i win with the reapers, but usually i can transition and the zerg builds way too much defense

when I do 3 rax reaper the zerg just waits for speed, then kills all my reapers and I lose.

okay I might have played the build maybe 10 times in LotV so I don't have that much practice with it.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-14 10:37:05
December 14 2016 10:36 GMT
#662
oh? :O
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 14 2016 10:36 GMT
#663
On December 14 2016 19:32 Elentos wrote:
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On December 14 2016 19:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:24 Elentos wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:19 Elentos wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:17 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:08 Incognoto wrote:
the mechanic of using the liberator to force an unsiege is very interesting

Disagree heavily, due to the liberator range it seems very stupid to me


In practice it's pretty fair though.

Right now, i wonder if players didn't figure it out yet though. Air advantage with some libs seems broken to me in theory

I've seen Maru and TY do it. The problem is often that you can sacrifice a few marines to clear out a liberator. If you're behind on air on even armies you have more marines anyway.

Maybe, i feel like you could "easily" position your army to deny that though considering the range of libs

The range of liberators is really low before you get the upgrade but you can only afford that really late into the game.

However, given the casting range, the actual maximum distance a Liberator can reach is theoretically 10 without the upgrade, and 14 with the upgrade


Seems good to me tbh

Half of that is the radius of the circle, in reality the liberator is way closer.

I am actually not sure what you mean with that, 10 range is 10 range
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
December 14 2016 10:38 GMT
#664
On December 14 2016 19:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote:
Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M

The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate

3-rax is the only thing that's 100% a loss when I do it

Well not that i win with the reapers, but usually i can transition and the zerg builds way too much defense

Usually what happens is that they make a lot of units, I get surrounded and lose most of my reapers because I can't micro them for shit and then the follow-up goes horribly wrong for me. Frozen Temple was my decent 3-rax map.

Zerg players in diamond just like to make units. Yesterday I played a guy who did a ravager rush first so I had to float my natural away and bunker on the high ground (I was doing a 2-1-1 so keeping units at home is really bad), then expanded and massed 55 speedbanes on 2 bases.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
December 14 2016 10:38 GMT
#665
now just don't go full foreigner iAsonu
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 14 2016 10:39 GMT
#666
Nice bank for a strong muta switch
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-14 10:40:50
December 14 2016 10:40 GMT
#667
On December 14 2016 19:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 19:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote:
Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M

The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate

3-rax is the only thing that's 100% a loss when I do it

Well not that i win with the reapers, but usually i can transition and the zerg builds way too much defense

Usually what happens is that they make a lot of units, I get surrounded and lose most of my reapers because I can't micro them for shit and then the follow-up goes horribly wrong for me. Frozen Temple was my decent 3-rax map.

Zerg players in diamond just like to make units. Yesterday I played a guy who did a ravager rush first so I had to float my natural away and bunker on the high ground (I was doing a 2-1-1 so keeping units at home is really bad), then expanded and massed 55 speedbanes on 2 bases.


My 2v2 partner (who I happen to be married to) plays Terran - she doesn't play 1v1, but I'd guess she'd be somewhere around gold. She has 6000 games as Terran and did not know a couple of days ago, if you need a techlab to make a reaper or not - she just considers them completely useless at her level, because when she had build one in the past, it always died without doing anything, because she wouldn't micro it enough.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 14 2016 10:40 GMT
#668
bleh, Solar sees it ._.
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 14 2016 10:41 GMT
#669
iA should get a lot of static defense and another base. So many minerals!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 14 2016 10:43 GMT
#670
No wonder ByuL lost to this guy in the qualifiers
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 14 2016 10:43 GMT
#671
Almost BEAUTIFUL fungals!! Why didn't he bile?!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 14 2016 10:44 GMT
#672
those roach runbys won't stop, so sick
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 14 2016 10:44 GMT
#673
On December 14 2016 19:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 19:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:31 Elentos wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 14 2016 19:29 Elentos wrote:
Thors are good by the way people who play against L/B/M

The only real way i can win against zerg atm is 3 rax reaper I have like 40% winrate

3-rax is the only thing that's 100% a loss when I do it

Well not that i win with the reapers, but usually i can transition and the zerg builds way too much defense

Usually what happens is that they make a lot of units, I get surrounded and lose most of my reapers because I can't micro them for shit and then the follow-up goes horribly wrong for me. Frozen Temple was my decent 3-rax map.

Zerg players in diamond just like to make units. Yesterday I played a guy who did a ravager rush first so I had to float my natural away and bunker on the high ground (I was doing a 2-1-1 so keeping units at home is really bad), then expanded and massed 55 speedbanes on 2 bases.

Oh yeah i know, usually 1-2 tanks are really good at holding pretty much anything, at least in my experience. You have to trade somewhat decently with the grenades though, REALLY easy vs roaches, speedlings are tricky though and i lose against that as well^^
Not sure what else i can do vs zerg, to me it looks like zerg can do whatever it wants and be at least even^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
December 14 2016 10:44 GMT
#674
Oh and in case anyone was wondering, the 2-base 55 speedbane all-in did not beat 3 tanks and 19 marines
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12908 Posts
December 14 2016 10:44 GMT
#675
ByuN lost? Fuck I missed the games, I guess no tankivacs really screwed with his playstyle :/.
Hopefully iASonu wins so ByuN has a bit of a shot to qualify.
WriterMaru
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
December 14 2016 10:46 GMT
#676
geegee
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 14 2016 10:46 GMT
#677
Took him on straight up too :o

wow
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 14 2016 10:47 GMT
#678
wp iA, gg!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 14 2016 10:48 GMT
#679
On December 14 2016 19:44 Elentos wrote:
Oh and in case anyone was wondering, the 2-base 55 speedbane all-in did not beat 3 tanks and 19 marines

Yeah tanks are really good :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 14 2016 10:49 GMT
#680
ByuL vs Classic starting
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