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On December 10 2016 04:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2016 09:19 emperorchampion wrote:On December 07 2016 09:13 Rels wrote:On December 07 2016 09:06 emperorchampion wrote: Also I'm fine with people trying to lynch me because historically that's how I find scum For someone with this mindset you seem pretty unsure about TT ? Are you leaning more scum or town from his case(s ?) on you ? What's your thoughts on HF and DF ? Town apparently ? Why ? Yeah I think that's pretty apparent from the last few days. But I think the results are OK so far, day 2 was a wash cause of afk, but otherwise 2 scum lynches. DF reads as town to me, involved in the game and trying to solve. HF annoys me a lot, and at the moment I defer to the high town reads that a lot of other players have. HF is certainly more town than than TT and Onegu. This is remarkable difference to just last night btw. I don't think onegu or darth have changed but the poe has.
You've flipped on me just as many times, so I don't know. Maybe we're both town.
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I still think the lynch order should probably be emp--> HF for now cuz poe I'm town reading onegu and mahrgell. I'll have a bit of time to thoroughly read through TT's points about HF in just a few mins
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Just generally find it weird how before this HF was playing this game confidently and trusting his reads and now seems to be super waffler supreme even though we have a mislynch to work with
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On November 30 2016 07:30 darthfoley wrote:It's actually pretty crazy how bad sicklucker's filter is. Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 19:16 sicklucker wrote:On November 29 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote: Checkm8 and EC are town. Shapelog is town. Mahrgell is town. LS is town. Darthfoley is town.
List grows. meh. check has like 2 posts i noticed that can be either but as a first time player im sure he will spew himself by the end of the day. I didnt read any of darthfoleys posts but I can agree that sl mahr ls are likely towna This is so lazy and never explains anything. I only had like five posts at this point and he chose not to read any of them? Also provides no reason why he agrees with town reads. Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 19:18 sicklucker wrote: shapelogs and ls's interactions were pretty horrible but very town. Also shapelog is obviously the cop and if hes not im going to convince mafia he is so they shot him What made them horrible, and why does their interactions being horrible make them "very town"? When I think of "horrible" interactions, I think of two mafia buddies not knowing how to interact with each other in the thread He's a fine (at worst) policy lynch so far to be continued
This is a good unprovoked attack on sl. sl trying to bus both his team mates day one seems so weird. Combined with the random "check me I'm green" post N1. Also I don't think that mafia would be so proud about finding the shapelog stuff start of N1.
This is actually the first interaction in darth's filter that gives me pause, everything reads as town up to here. This I find really "convenient".
On December 04 2016 05:59 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 00:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 00:01 mahrgell wrote:On November 29 2016 23:55 NeverUnlucky wrote: #526
5) and 6) mostly reflect my thoughts on both these players. However, I really don't like this: "Fuck it, I guess I leave [LS] to people who can judge him better until I have seen more from him to form a more conclusive opinion. " It comes back to HF's point re: dedicating a post to someone and not having a clear opinion on them.
On that note, you still have no read on me despite liking the points that were made against me and claiming I am the one you have the most meta with.
Also, fucking stop calling me "controversial" and whatnot. COntroversial most in the sense that you are among the most suspected players in this game. Deal with it. And about not having a read, I think I explained why. Because I feel that what you write in this game, and what others call you out for makes you look scummish in isolation. If I add back the meta, it makes you look townish. So back to square 0. But I don't see much point in argueing about that. I have nothing to add to the allegations against you and it is up to you if you feel you defended enough against those. If you don't feel like they are worth commenting more, just share more good stuff about other players. Like what are your opinions on HF, SL, emp, TT and LS? The allegations as you put it are that I made stuff out of thin air (emp and checkmate) which I debunked, that my post on LS was tainted by the fact that I had a pre-made conclusion on him which is a blatant shade-throw for someone who claims to have no read on me (emp), and that I'm losing ppl with my train of thought (Shape, you). (And a point that emp misunderstood) No example/explanation for the first, shade for the second, and my arguments being too IQ demanding for the third. That's my "case". Here are my reads: TOWNDFKoshi LEAN-TCheckmate Onegu LEAN-SCUMEC TT ?? SL HF's point on you is something I agree with. Like I told you in the noobers game, you don't interact with peoplez enough which makes you look unnatural, not transparent which is a mafia trait. I don't have anything to lean either way on him though. SL has been useless and not in a funny Grack/Superbia way, so he can be scum-leaned until he starts moving his ass. emp, I don't understand how anyone could town-read him. His serious posts after his trolling were about me, and as I mentioned above, one of them was a misunderstanding and the other one had no evidence on why I was making shit up and contained something I perceive as a shade-throw because he doesn't even scum-read me. TT seems uninterested by the game :3 I'm thinking it could be NAI because he was willing to give Onegu his spot in the pre-game which would show that he is not that interested in the game, so it's kind of a moot point. LS, I despised his first post, but I enjoy his attitude in this game. Tone doesn't sound maf. He's null for me now. Lol he has df as his top town for literraly no reason. Just like he had me at the bottom even tho he was talking about 5 other players. He didnt mention df in his filter before this just like me. Knowing im fucking town and he put me at the bottom. This is just more proof to me that darth is his partner
On December 04 2016 06:26 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 06:06 sicklucker wrote: Acualy shit where is darth I need to know about your last game with mu. He was either trying to pocket you or your his partner. His filter is so fucknig weird. He never gives his reason why your town. But he lists you as his top town. He has legitmate reasons to call people town in his filter. But for you he just Lists you at the top and its never brought up again. you barely interact and you have zero interaction before he town reads you.
Darth gimme cliffs of your relationship in your last game with him Pretty sure it was the initial stages of buddying especially because I thought early game was town NU. Lat game I played with him was weird because he and calix were assholes to each other TvT the whole game, though I was more in the Calix supporter camp
But keeping up the attack:
On December 04 2016 07:08 darthfoley wrote: Lol @ the idea that SL tried to actively change the vote. You spent all day claiming that I was mafia 100%, recycled Koshi's accusation of me and then by EoD said I was spewed town by NU. You didn't try to change anything. White Knight
To be continued, still reading through darth's filter. Initial impression is that it looks really good for darth, better than mahr I think. darth/sl as partners seems really unlikely from this. Whereas Mahr and sl's conversations could be more "convenient" (can't think of a better word at the moment).
Just want to post some initial stuff since I realize I'm running out of time.
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Isn't it in like 2hrs, or am I off by a day?
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Yea, I dunno where the VC's have been today.
Lynch should be in 1.5 Hours.
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I'd appreciate preferred lynch orders from TT and emperor if emp flips town.
I'm assuming TT is emp --> HF, emperor what is your opinion?
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I'm back... trying to read up...
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I think I take darth out of the picture for me. I see what some people say about his play slipping since day 2, but I can't fault him for that since many people have said that about my self as well. The only other thing that I really was at odds with were the vote count posts that feel like empty content.
One final thoughts to wrap it up: based on the early game, if HF is a competent player, I think through no special effort darth managed to convince HF that he's town. Therefore, trusting this read, if HF is town he has no reason to lie, and darth is likely town. If HF is mafia he has reason to "buddy" darth, but there is only 1 mafia left, so darth is town as well here.
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Im voting with HF today and then if we dont win lynching him 100% tomorrow wish we could no lynch if we had to but o well. And yes that is all you are getting from me today.
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Even though that still looks like a scum slip to me...
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On December 10 2016 05:32 darthfoley wrote: I'd appreciate preferred lynch orders from TT and emperor if emp flips town.
I'm assuming TT is emp --> HF, emperor what is your opinion?
If you take everything at face value, then yes HF is super towny. That's the part that I'm struggling with at the moment. To throw some silly percents at it I would say that mafia is 55% Mahr and 45% HF. Practically, I would of course vote HF here since it doesn't feel like there's a lot of sentiment against Mahr at the moment. I'm waffling really hard between these two, and I think I'm going to re-read Mahr next.
I feel pretty good about darth as town. If darth is mafia he had some maybe odd play at times, but overall good , so I'm fine with it.
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Not enough time to go post by post... But somehow my brain can't make much sense of what Emp is saying. I simply don't understand it as townish thinking and have no idea how he got there... At the same time his posts feel "real" from an emotional level...
And still no idea what to make out of Onegu... so if I leave Onegu out, I'm at Head: Scum-Emp-DF-HF-Town Heart: Scum-HF-DF-Emp-Town
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On December 10 2016 05:38 Onegu wrote: Im voting with HF today and then if we dont win lynching him 100% tomorrow wish we could no lynch if we had to but o well. And yes that is all you are getting from me today.
Dude this is pretty bad since there's a real possibility that Mahr could be mafia. If you're afraid of HF, then lynch him now, since auto-lynching him tomorrow is stupid I realize and will lose us the game if he's town.
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About DF: I feel very similar to Emp about DFs play until EoD3... just afterwards he seemed more like.... cruising by... unfocused... I don't know. But I was super locked on him... and then N3/D4 he made such a number of strange plays...
About HF: I still believe in this N2-JK thing... Logic dictates me that this is enough... I also think his pushes post-D3 etc made sense for the Town!SL I had in mind... But it is pretty much everything else that really tickles me. His consequent desire to point out his townconfirmedness... Those weird and terrible bluecrumbs early... Him going completely ham and personal at everyone questioning him... AlsoI really thought the game was over earlier today... when Emp stopped posting... and suddenly HF felt to go completely mad at TT? for what? TT can't be scum. Emp looked like a sure lynch and game oer? Why fight over TTs accusations? Like I was split between doing nothing or doing some light work on checking out others... but why argue with TT there? It gave me really bad vibes and was the first real crack in waht I expected from the Town!SL I had in mind...
Onegu: ... yeah... thats it.
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On December 10 2016 05:44 mahrgell wrote: Not enough time to go post by post... But somehow my brain can't make much sense of what Emp is saying. I simply don't understand it as townish thinking and have no idea how he got there... At the same time his posts feel "real" from an emotional level...
And still no idea what to make out of Onegu... so if I leave Onegu out, I'm at Head: Scum-Emp-DF-HF-Town Heart: Scum-HF-DF-Emp-Town
Any parts particularly that you have trouble reconciling?
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On December 10 2016 05:44 mahrgell wrote: Not enough time to go post by post... But somehow my brain can't make much sense of what Emp is saying. I simply don't understand it as townish thinking and have no idea how he got there... At the same time his posts feel "real" from an emotional level...
And still no idea what to make out of Onegu... so if I leave Onegu out, I'm at Head: Scum-Emp-DF-HF-Town Heart: Scum-HF-DF-Emp-Town
What is making you doubt Darth in both those lists?
Onegu seems to have been spewed town quite a bit and has voted a ton with mafia which Scum tend not do. I think he's a pretty safe town read.
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and emp seems always to townread the guy most he read last...
Reads my filter, calls me very sure town Reads DFs filter, calls DF sure town...
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