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emperorchampion
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On December 10 2016 05:52 mahrgell wrote: and emp seems always to townread the guy most he read last... Reads my filter, calls me very sure town Reads DFs filter, calls DF sure town... The issue is that everyone looks town to me, so I feel like a gold fish whenever I read something again  | ||
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mahrgell
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On December 10 2016 05:51 emperorchampion wrote: Any parts particularly that you have trouble reconciling? When you say "I thought there is a 40% chance of him being town" vs "he didnt even defend himself anymore -> no need for me to defend him"... I simply can't follow it... As I said... I had the same situation earlier the day, and simply can't follow your line... Also why did you feel the need to prove your towniness to TT? You weren't up for lynch... Also to me it looked way more like an accusation battle with both calling each other scum than an attempt to prove the own towniness. Would have to reread it though... Also I lack a clear line of your thoughts N3,D4... It again seems entirely unfocused... pretty much like "anybody but me" | ||
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mahrgell
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On December 10 2016 05:51 Tictock wrote: What is making you doubt Darth in both those lists? Onegu seems to have been spewed town quite a bit and has voted a ton with mafia which Scum tend not do. I think he's a pretty safe town read. is my answer I posted after the quoted post enough? | ||
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mahrgell
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On December 10 2016 05:56 emperorchampion wrote: The issue is that everyone looks town to me, so I feel like a gold fish whenever I read something again Well... who would you lynch instead of yourself  | ||
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emperorchampion
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On December 10 2016 05:56 mahrgell wrote: When you say "I thought there is a 40% chance of him being town" vs "he didnt even defend himself anymore -> no need for me to defend him"... I simply can't follow it... As I said... I had the same situation earlier the day, and simply can't follow your line... Also why did you feel the need to prove your towniness to TT? You weren't up for lynch... Also to me it looked way more like an accusation battle with both calling each other scum than an attempt to prove the own towniness. Would have to reread it though... Also I lack a clear line of your thoughts N3,D4... It again seems entirely unfocused... pretty much like "anybody but me" Why should I defend someone who gave up? It's a similar story with shape D2, except I had a good feeling that shape was actually town. With shape I tried my best to get something from him, and if he's not going to do anything then why should I bother. With sl I didn't even think he was town, I mean %'s are kinda dumb, but if you look at it in that way I didn't actually think he was town. Yeah there's a possibility, but if he's pretty much as you pointed out going for the NU approach then yeah, he looks like scum in the end. Proving my townieness makes to TT makes sense since I felt that he was probably town, and you want to work with other town. Having them tunnel you is bad for town and unproductive. I mean, I guess at this point I've narrowed it down to anybody but me, TT, Onegu, and DF , but theoretically I would be happy with anyone but TT over me since I know that we're both town. | ||
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emperorchampion
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On December 10 2016 05:58 mahrgell wrote: Well... who would you lynch instead of yourself Pending some more reading, my practically preferred lynch order would be HF->Mahr. | ||
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Holyflare
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On December 10 2016 06:10 emperorchampion wrote: Pending some more reading, my practically preferred lynch order would be HF->Mahr. But you've called me towny all game, you've sheeped my sentiment, I'm confirmed practically by jk actions, I pushed lynches through on two mafia when people wanted to not vote 1 of them and instead let them live, I've tinfoiled like crazy, I didn't even push easy lynches, I have a logical reason for everything I do, your % of me being mafia is less than mahr but you've called mahr town all day and mahr made sl claim jk, you've followed my push on mahr slipping but now have no reason to call me mafia, you town read darth last night and scum read onegu and nothing happened in between but somehow you magically had darth as mafia but now he's town again and onegu has disappeared from your scum list. You made a case on ticktock day 1 but refused to vote him for no good reason to jump onto your partner nu for credit, you did nothing day 2. You ABSOLUTELY did not push sicklucker day 2 until it was fucking down right obvious he was the lynch, you made the most wishy washy posts on nu in existence (read my case on you), you didn't die and ls did over you/mahr. | ||
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mahrgell
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When you townread everyone else, maybe it is time to reread your own rolePM... Like somehow I feel like you are genuine... but at the same time I don't know who I really want to lynch over you (and you are not giving me any reasons to choose anyone else)... And: Why are you doing all this now right before deadline panic? Like why do you have to be on the block to even start to properly read anyone else? I just reread your filter, and you basically went completely in circles on everybody during D3. Why not do the research back then when you feel unsecure? | ||
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Holyflare
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emperorchampion
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On December 10 2016 06:25 Holyflare wrote: But you've called me towny all game, you've sheeped my sentiment, I'm confirmed practically by jk actions, I pushed lynches through on two mafia when people wanted to not vote 1 of them and instead let them live, I've tinfoiled like crazy, I didn't even push easy lynches, I have a logical reason for everything I do, your % of me being mafia is less than mahr but you've called mahr town all day and mahr made sl claim jk, you've followed my push on mahr slipping but now have no reason to call me mafia, you town read darth last night and scum read onegu and nothing happened in between but somehow you magically had darth as mafia but now he's town again and onegu has disappeared from your scum list. You made a case on ticktock day 1 but refused to vote him for no good reason to jump onto your partner nu for credit, you did nothing day 2. You ABSOLUTELY did not push sicklucker day 2 until it was fucking down right obvious he was the lynch, you made the most wishy washy posts on nu in existence (read my case on you), you didn't die and ls did over you/mahr. Just join my vote that's still on Mahr and it's all cool then bruh | ||
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emperorchampion
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On December 10 2016 06:26 mahrgell wrote: Idk man... When you townread everyone else, maybe it is time to reread your own rolePM... Like somehow I feel like you are genuine... but at the same time I don't know who I really want to lynch over you (and you are not giving me any reasons to choose anyone else)... And: Why are you doing all this now right before deadline panic? Like why do you have to be on the block to even start to properly read anyone else? I just reread your filter, and you basically went completely in circles on everybody during D3. Why not do the research back then when you feel unsecure? I dunno, cause I'm bad at this game? | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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On December 01 2016 01:27 emperorchampion wrote: Lets talk about this post more. My conclusions: 1) TT is not following the game at all, or 2) TT is mafia. Consider the state of the game when this was made: Rels and Koshi were voting HF, I had just voted NU. 1) Two of the top town reads are Rels and Koshi, both are at the time voting for HF. He has a town read on HF. I don't see any justification for this stance. 2) The read of HF it self, partially green but null/conflicted. I'm not really sure what to make of that. I get the sense that the conflict between having HF as town and Mahrgell as town is noted, but dealt with so lazily. 3) Stating MvM between NU and I essentially means that TT thinks that 2 mafia have been found day 1. I find this to be a very odd conclusion. 4) The case on my self is truly baffling. Either TT is lying when he says that "I didn't find anything townie" or has not been reading closely at all. Let me outline: a) Two of his top towns, Rels and Koshi, are voting for HF. Koshi had 0 interest in voting HF prior to my posts #589 and #609. b) I am (to my knowledge at the time) not under consideration by: Rels, Koshi, LS, HF (?). All towns for TT. c) I am currently voting for one of his towns (LS) current target. d) The reasoning that I had for being suspicious of HF (#609) is the exact same as the reason that he is null/conflicted on HF. In summary: based on the 3 points above, if TT didn't find anything townie what so ever in my filter, then he must be lying. IF this is the case, the only purpose that makes immediate sense is that he's mafia. Otherwise, as stated, maybe he's not reading closely at all, but I think that makes him an OK lynch candidate as well. This is the post I mentioned earlier btw. I think it's really good insight but it scares me because that means it's not emp as mafia. But I feel like it's a cop out not to lynch him. | ||
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emperorchampion
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On December 10 2016 06:34 Holyflare wrote: Can darth be mafia though? I can certainly see it with him doing 0% of the figuring out. I don't personally believe that darth is mafia. | ||
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Holyflare
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I dunno. Stop making me wifom off you. | ||
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