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sheeping is good
I think HF is town based on a) sounding like a raging hammer of justice at some point and b) effort.
Damdred is whatever. I always think he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia here. But then again, I always think he's mafia.
I don't wanna lynch damdred mostly because I know he's good and can be useful at some point. I need him to impress me a bit more though.
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On September 11 2016 04:15 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:09 Skynx wrote:On September 11 2016 03:56 Holyflare wrote:On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it. It's a very strong opening. But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because: On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote: Simple facts are:
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said TT has gone afk and done nothing
But... he's not mafia? On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote: This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."
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"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>" On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote: Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.
If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.
If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either. On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote: My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics.
Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too. On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote: are you actually being fucking serious?
he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:
a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset
b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.
SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.
Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.
Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be. TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said TT has gone afk and done nothing So 1 meta, 1 shitposting, another meta, what u mean in 4th one i have no idea and one plynch argument. On September 09 2016 10:09 Tictock wrote: Ending pg7.
The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though.
My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff.
Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players.
Seems we've got a fairly active game started up here. I'm gunna have to catchup more after dinner.So you are referring to him calling the setup boring but he should read it boils down to being illogical therefore he must be scum. You say you are assuming here, a very logical assumption. How logical it is to assume this whole thing is very weak? Your case is based on meta, shitposting, assumption and policy. 2 of those above can be applied to 4 I've mentioned earlier, they are essentially same with ticktock with exception that they actually posted stuff. Therefore your strongest argument is the 'logical assumption' you made earlier which is debatable at best. What you write makes 0 sense. Your case is super super super weak.
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It's not even a case, you are just spamming the thread and somehow it convinced people that you have an actual case on TT.
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On September 11 2016 04:21 Calix wrote: Can we actually decide on like, a decent target for EOD please? TT's train is terrible and if Palmar votes for him, that makes 3/4 sheep voters.
If anyone town-reads Damdred or HF, then please speak up now.
Everyone is just doing their own fucking thing at the moment. I have a 50% townread on Damdred for vaguely looking town and 50% don't-lynch-read for being good but yeah my scum pool is outlined already and I am willing to go for any target in there although tt would hurt my ego
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Palmar how much have you actually read?
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On September 11 2016 04:22 Palmar wrote: sheeping is good
I think HF is town based on a) sounding like a raging hammer of justice at some point and b) effort.
Damdred is whatever. I always think he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia here. But then again, I always think he's mafia.
I don't wanna lynch damdred mostly because I know he's good and can be useful at some point. I need him to impress me a bit more though. both your a and b are normal Hf things for both alignments.
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like the only reason damdred looks like mafia is because he hasn't said anything super smart yet that I remember. But there is the disclaimer I haven't actually read the game so whatever.
Basically I need him to make a good case or good point at some point.
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On September 11 2016 04:24 Skynx wrote: It's not even a case, you are just spamming the thread and somehow it convinced people that you have an actual case on TT. ok Skynx is town. I like skynx
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On September 11 2016 04:22 Palmar wrote: sheeping is good
I think HF is town based on a) sounding like a raging hammer of justice at some point and b) effort.
Damdred is whatever. I always think he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia here. But then again, I always think he's mafia.
I don't wanna lynch damdred mostly because I know he's good and can be useful at some point. I need him to impress me a bit more though.
Effort is NAI.
Your Damdred read is super waffley. "I always think that he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia but I always think that he's mafia" (this is basically what you said but my point is that you didn't actually SAY anything here)
Useful...also not a town tell.
You guys have some weird town tells, eh?
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On September 11 2016 04:25 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:22 Palmar wrote: sheeping is good
I think HF is town based on a) sounding like a raging hammer of justice at some point and b) effort.
Damdred is whatever. I always think he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia here. But then again, I always think he's mafia.
I don't wanna lynch damdred mostly because I know he's good and can be useful at some point. I need him to impress me a bit more though. both your a and b are normal Hf things for both alignments. Hello, my name is Pálmar. I've played like 30 games with holyflare. I am aware of how he plays, but thanks for the information.
I can tell the difference between faking it and meaning it. I think. Maybe.
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On September 11 2016 04:25 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:22 Palmar wrote: sheeping is good
I think HF is town based on a) sounding like a raging hammer of justice at some point and b) effort.
Damdred is whatever. I always think he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia here. But then again, I always think he's mafia.
I don't wanna lynch damdred mostly because I know he's good and can be useful at some point. I need him to impress me a bit more though. Effort is NAI. Your Damdred read is super waffley. "I always think that he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia but I always think that he's mafia" (this is basically what you said but my point is that you didn't actually SAY anything here) Useful...also not a town tell. You guys have some weird town tells, eh? welcome to TL, we all know each other really well.
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On September 11 2016 04:25 Palmar wrote: like the only reason damdred looks like mafia is because he hasn't said anything super smart yet that I remember. But there is the disclaimer I haven't actually read the game so whatever.
Basically I need him to make a good case or good point at some point. Seriously All I'm asking you to do is to read from pg 34-36ish. Then make up your mind. I'm actually feeling pretty good on this.
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There is nothing,inherently wrong in sweeping honestly. Hf really believes what he is saying, and I believe he does and well tt is a decent lynch for a lynch anyway.
@Skynx well the conversation is being controlled,by three people,basically and that's the focus. In any case if not tt I'd do,shape or super. But I'd like to,see what super does d2 meh
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You vote tt or you don't and explain why.
Oddly enough i like grack and tumble for actually putting the effort to address it.
Cal has said that she actually liked the tt case but isn't voting tt because it had 3 votes and wifom that's horrible and you should lynch her next cycle likely.
Skyn js probably a good bet for mafia for continually being behind and when he's oosted something of substance on a topic he doesn't even know what he's talking about. He also town read me early in a super bad way, probably mafia.
Damd probably towny after all.
Palmar who the fuck knows but sheeping me is well smart.
Shape i didn't hate his posts vut disappeared super too but wouldn't surprise me if they were mafia.
Vivax underwhelming walls of text with hipster town reads and not enough crazy crap and also ignores damdred calling tt mafia for afk when he knows tt afks as town.
Too many mafia.
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On September 11 2016 04:21 Calix wrote: Can we actually decide on like, a decent target for EOD please? TT's train is terrible and if Palmar votes for him, that makes 3/4 sheep voters.
If anyone town-reads Damdred or HF, then please speak up now.
Everyone is just doing their own fucking thing at the moment.
I'm down for seeing either Damdred or Palmar get into the noose.
What bothers me the most about this TT case is that the players on his train say that he is scummy and deny that it's a PL. Like, I would actually be down for PLing him seeing as it doesn't look like he'll post and there are no replacements this game IF his lynch was a transparent PL. And it's not. The players on his train are shady.
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I'm not saying sheeping is bad, but when an entire train is almost entirely sheep-votes, there's a problem.
Hardly anyone else has managed to get anywhere near the number of sheep votes as TT has.
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this entire game feels like townies vs. holyflare to me, with bonus lurkers and sheep's on Hf's side
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On September 11 2016 04:28 Calix wrote: I'm not saying sheeping is bad, but when an entire train is almost entirely sheep-votes, there's a problem.
Hardly anyone else has managed to get anywhere near the number of sheep votes as TT has. (that's because it's HF driving the train, he's the second best day 1 scumhunter in the game. Unless you think he's mafia, it's usually a good idea to sheep him)
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On September 11 2016 04:21 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:15 Damdred wrote:On September 11 2016 04:13 Skynx wrote:On September 11 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote:On September 11 2016 04:00 Grackaroni wrote: I have no idea why because I can't identify any of Damdred's posts that make me feel this way, but I think Shapelog/TT would both be better lynches than Damdred.
I still fully expect Palmar to show up in some capacity before the deadline, and hopefully he can weigh in on what I've written about HF. My heart glitters as you mention my name. But on a serious side, grac I think sky is interesting he's usually so... closed with who he wants to lynch bit he has such a wide variety keeping,hi a options open. What do you think of this? lol opportunism at best. Give me a clear lynch target for today ser Damdy. Here's the thing we have a list (in my mind) of mostly lynched today and tt is probably the least bad and it's all,going to,be based on meta and strange posts. It would go like Tt Shape/super And then there is a wide gap and cal is super low, with grack and you to a lesser extent. The rest I either want to,ignore or think are town mostly I mostly agree. TT, Shape, Super and Palmar are all plynches. Whats bothering me and what I've been trying to say over last few pages is TT is not as good of a lynch as other 3 because he is TOTALLY afk. Rest have been posting with no content whatsoever. Super just trolled and commented on setup for 3 entire pages of filter. Palmar said he will just not read or post. Shape posted walls of text that says nothing at all. But we are tunnelling on 1 guy that is actually away while 3 people we have more data that reliably suggests that they did jack shit all game but no one even considers them.
This is a reasonable post and I retract my previous statement somewhat.
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Too many of HF's reads are hinged on how people reacted to the TT case. That's a weird level of obsession to have.
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