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On September 11 2016 03:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it. It's a very strong opening. But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because: On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing
But... he's not mafia? Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."
or
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>" Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.
If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.
If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either. Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics.
Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too. Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?
he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:
a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset
b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.
SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.
Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.
Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing
So 1 meta, 1 shitposting, another meta, what u mean in 4th one i have no idea and one plynch argument.
On September 09 2016 10:09 Tictock wrote:
Ending pg7.
The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though.
My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff.
Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players.
Seems we've got a fairly active game started up here. I'm gunna have to catchup more after dinner.
So you are referring to him calling the setup boring but he should read it boils down to being illogical therefore he must be scum. You say you are assuming here, a very logical assumption.
How logical it is to assume this whole thing is very weak?
Your case is based on meta, shitposting, assumption and policy.
2 of those above can be applied to 4 I've mentioned earlier, they are essentially same with ticktock with exception that they actually posted stuff.
Therefore your strongest argument is the 'logical assumption' you made earlier which is debatable at best.
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Two votes scares the shut out of me I quiver with anticipation
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You have spent 99% of today arguing with nu your town read and confused as to why fuba is town and still calling him mafia and then wifoming for days.
I literally just proved why your wifom is bull shit and nothing has changed for you.
You should lynch me so I can fire a bullet in your direction.
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On September 11 2016 04:10 Holyflare wrote:
You have spent 99% of today arguing with nu your town read and confused as to why fuba is town and still calling him mafia and then wifoming for days.
I literally just proved why your wifom is bull shit and nothing has changed for you.
You should lynch me so I can fire a bullet in your direction.
Yes, clearly it's my fault that NU has decided to tunnel me based on previous games and that I was defending myself against that.
Nobody had said anything about how fuba was town until a few hours ago and the reasoning was mediocre.
You like to keep repeating those points like they actually mean something.
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On September 11 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:00 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no idea why because I can't identify any of Damdred's posts that make me feel this way, but I think Shapelog/TT would both be better lynches than Damdred.
I still fully expect Palmar to show up in some capacity before the deadline, and hopefully he can weigh in on what I've written about HF. My heart glitters as you mention my name. But on a serious side, grac I think sky is interesting he's usually so... closed with who he wants to lynch bit he has such a wide variety keeping,hi a options open. What do you think of this?
lol opportunism at best. Give me a clear lynch target for today ser Damdy.
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yeah I'm not putting in effort enough today to change my mind and I was mildly attracted to HF's manliness before, so I'm just gonna sheep him.
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Calix, I want to town-read you now, but it would be a meta and tone read. Do I have your approval?
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On September 11 2016 01:54 Damdred wrote:
It's cause I'm town and the scum team is scared of me.
Boo.
Also think palmar might be town rip the dream.
clearly TMI, scum.
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ok you know what hf I'll take you up
On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it. It's a very strong opening. But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because: Show nested quote +On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing
But... he's not mafia?
ok first of all you can't assume tt was trying to mimic trfel from last game. and, tt has a "town opening"? and if he doesn't follow this "town opening" he's scum?
fourth point I don't remember about so I'll assume it's bad
second and fifth points are variations on the same thing imo. I think the only valid way to present tt is as a policy lynch.
you calling grack mafia for his reaction to your case is bad and wrong.
On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."
or
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>"
don't remember the context of this so we skip this quote
On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.
If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.
If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either.
idk I post about (or mostly used to post about) things I thought were boring all the time. usually when I complain about it though. I agree it doesn't make sense but I don't think that has any impact on his alignment. the last sentence of this sounds like it makes it even worse but again it's a variation on "tt did nothing and fucked off".
On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics.
Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too.
p r o j e c t i o n
"this is what another person was thinking. I felt it was a safe assumption because I read 5 posts by him."
On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?
he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:
a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset
b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.
SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.
Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.
Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.
wow it turns out someone whose only posts are from the first four hours of the game did not have very substantial posts. very surprising, given that there is so much substance to work off of at that stage. this is exactly what tt was thinking based on my intense psychoanalysis of 15 combined sentences.
tt is a plynch. no more. I don't want to hear any of this bullshit about how he was trying to blend or whatever whatever because there is no way to deduce this from this tiny amount of posts without projecting your own thoughts onto him.
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On September 11 2016 04:09 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:56 Holyflare wrote:On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it. It's a very strong opening. But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because: On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:
TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing
But... he's not mafia? On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."
or
"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>" On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.
If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.
If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either. On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics.
Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too. On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?
he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:
a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset
b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.
SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.
Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.
Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be. Show nested quote +TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing So 1 meta, 1 shitposting, another meta, what u mean in 4th one i have no idea and one plynch argument. Show nested quote +On September 09 2016 10:09 Tictock wrote:
Ending pg7.
The Setup stuff kinda bores me, but I should prob read through it eventually kus it sparked a bit of discussion. Kinda getting town feels from both of NU and Calix atm though.
My thoughts on Setup, the dead should make their own calls on how to use their powers and Last Wills are not that important since the dead can be just as wrong as anyone about stuff.
Basically the only setup thing that's important to living players imo is being able to see who the dead are voting for as that gives us insight into their thoughts. In general though it is best to approach this game as a straight all vanilla game with some potential information coming from dead players.
Seems we've got a fairly active game started up here. I'm gunna have to catchup more after dinner. So you are referring to him calling the setup boring but he should read it boils down to being illogical therefore he must be scum. You say you are assuming here, a very logical assumption. How logical it is to assume this whole thing is very weak? Your case is based on meta, shitposting, assumption and policy. 2 of those above can be applied to 4 I've mentioned earlier, they are essentially same with ticktock with exception that they actually posted stuff. Therefore your strongest argument is the 'logical assumption' you made earlier which is debatable at best.
What you write makes 0 sense.
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On September 11 2016 04:13 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote:On September 11 2016 04:00 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no idea why because I can't identify any of Damdred's posts that make me feel this way, but I think Shapelog/TT would both be better lynches than Damdred.
I still fully expect Palmar to show up in some capacity before the deadline, and hopefully he can weigh in on what I've written about HF. My heart glitters as you mention my name. But on a serious side, grac I think sky is interesting he's usually so... closed with who he wants to lynch bit he has such a wide variety keeping,hi a options open. What do you think of this? lol opportunism at best. Give me a clear lynch target for today ser Damdy.
Here's the thing we have a list (in my mind) of mostly lynched today and tt is probably the least bad and it's all,going to,be based on meta and strange posts.
It would go like
Tt
Shape/super
And then there is a wide gap and cal is super low, with grack and you to a lesser extent.
The rest I either want to,ignore or think are town mostly
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On September 11 2016 04:13 Palmar wrote:
yeah I'm not putting in effort enough today to change my mind and I was mildly attracted to HF's manliness before, so I'm just gonna sheep him.
This guy needs to go. Seriously
HOW OPPORTUNISTIC IS THIS FOR SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN "AFK" THROUGH THE WHOLE DAY?
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On September 11 2016 04:14 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:54 Damdred wrote:
It's cause I'm town and the scum team is scared of me.
Boo.
Also think palmar might be town rip the dream. clearly TMI, scum.
Clearly so I await your vote good sir
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On September 11 2016 04:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:13 Palmar wrote:
yeah I'm not putting in effort enough today to change my mind and I was mildly attracted to HF's manliness before, so I'm just gonna sheep him. This guy needs to go. Seriously HOW OPPORTUNISTIC IS THIS FOR SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN "AFK" THROUGH THE WHOLE DAY?
palmar is what we call a "special case". this behavior isn't abnormal for him as either alignment.
though I still want to lynch him for tone
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unique snowflake, if you will
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when you're #1 you're allowed to be lazy
also who starts a game on a weekend, I wonder if we can lynch host
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I'll just afk on my policy and be correct then ty. Bye.
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On September 11 2016 04:13 Palmar wrote:
yeah I'm not putting in effort enough today to change my mind and I was mildly attracted to HF's manliness before, so I'm just gonna sheep him.
No Palmar you are stealing my glory just like Marv did. I am very dissapoint.
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Can we actually decide on like, a decent target for EOD please? TT's train is terrible and if Palmar votes for him, that makes 3/4 sheep voters.
If anyone town-reads Damdred or HF, then please speak up now.
Everyone is just doing their own fucking thing at the moment.
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On September 11 2016 04:15 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:13 Skynx wrote:On September 11 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote:On September 11 2016 04:00 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no idea why because I can't identify any of Damdred's posts that make me feel this way, but I think Shapelog/TT would both be better lynches than Damdred.
I still fully expect Palmar to show up in some capacity before the deadline, and hopefully he can weigh in on what I've written about HF. My heart glitters as you mention my name. But on a serious side, grac I think sky is interesting he's usually so... closed with who he wants to lynch bit he has such a wide variety keeping,hi a options open. What do you think of this? lol opportunism at best. Give me a clear lynch target for today ser Damdy. Here's the thing we have a list (in my mind) of mostly lynched today and tt is probably the least bad and it's all,going to,be based on meta and strange posts. It would go like Tt Shape/super And then there is a wide gap and cal is super low, with grack and you to a lesser extent. The rest I either want to,ignore or think are town mostly
I mostly agree. TT, Shape, Super and Palmar are all plynches.
Whats bothering me and what I've been trying to say over last few pages is TT is not as good of a lynch as other 3 because he is TOTALLY afk. Rest have been posting with no content whatsoever.
Super just trolled and commented on setup for 3 entire pages of filter.
Palmar said he will just not read or post.
Shape posted walls of text that says nothing at all.
But we are tunnelling on 1 guy that is actually away while 3 people we have more data that reliably suggests that they did jack shit all game but no one even considers them.
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