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On September 11 2016 03:40 Damdred wrote:
Never lynching me d1, get over it move on
Challenge accepted.
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On September 11 2016 03:21 Skynx wrote:
Also can someone gimme a quick recap of fuba vs NU i almost completely ignored that.
they yelled at each other but it didn't matter because both of them are town
On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.
Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.
Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.
Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.
You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done. I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"? No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM? No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'. If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him. Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy. Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why. Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town? Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense.
TL as a site is more bus-heavy than other sites. if someone sees their teammate going down d1 and doesn't think it's salvageable they will push that wagon themselves most of the time. even if bussing d1 is a bad strategy (and tbh it is most of the time) it undeniably happens a lot on TL.
Not voting (5): Skynx, Palmar, Vivax, Shapelog, Tictock hahahaha god help us too many lurkers
at least one is scum. probably 2. weird that all of them but tt aren't receiving votes. and super is lurking too more or less.
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Also just read Damdred's last post and it sounds like he is thinking a TT lynch tells us shit about HF. Not sure if he was meaning to imply that but in case he did...
Well I don't believe in informational lynches. (especially if the person flips town). If TT is town, that doesn't auto-confirm HF as scum because town!HF wouldn't have known that TT was town.
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Also I see Damdred trying to play the feisty game. Let's see how that goes when he bumps up to two votes.
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and to neverunlucky:
you are incredibly tunneled. I would wager that at least two of your scumreads are wrong. you're doing the stupid thing townies do all the time which is act like they've solved the game before there's a single flip and then refuse to change their positions. your reads are not as good as you think they are. reevaluate your scumreads. reevaluate your townreads. do this frequently.
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On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.
Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.
Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.
Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.
You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done. I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"? No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM? No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'. If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him. Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy. Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why. Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town? Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said " oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense.
How do you know those people aren't mafia????
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and super is lurking too more or less.
He did say that he was going to be lurking through most of D1 before receiving his role. I think it's NAI.
Damdred is the scummiest non-lurker here. Today is the day of the rope for him.
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On September 11 2016 03:33 Skynx wrote:
So TT is afk.
HF sr's TT cuz according to meta TT should defend when pressured.
Grack defends TT cuz HF's points is weak.
HF sr's Grack cuz of defending an afk.
Tumble sr's HF cuz his points are invalid.
HF asks everyone to follow him cuz his reads are flawless.
While Shapelog, Super, Palmar are all MIA and posted no content.
fuba, calix and NU are fighting eachother for no reason.
Damdred and Vivax are kinda in and out.
game is hard.
This is terrible fucking bs read. That's not why I'm mafia reading him at all.
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On September 11 2016 01:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:23 Tumblewood wrote:On September 11 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 01:16 Tumblewood wrote:
I encourage everyone to look past Hf's "infallible logic" and see that he is saying that a player with no more than 5 posts is guaranteed mafia. Hf is not a stupid person, but saying it with such fiery conviction is stupid. I guess you could call that a contradiction, but more importantly this has "pushing a mislynch" written all over it.
my guess at a scumteam so far is hf/palmar/??? (possibly skynx for the dropoff, or Damdred for supporting Hf, or tt if you want to get tinfoily). I like grack's point on Palmar. honestly guys just listen to grack because he is far and away the smartest player this game. I have made super strong pushes just the same as this in many other games. Vivax has also SAID THAT ALREADY IN THIS GAME. Now, you admit it's a contradiction but yoh have failed to comment on my posts saying why it makes him mafia. If you are keen on continuing this push then fucking wreck my logic and show people how I'm mafia instead of these useless pushes that aren't convincing anyone. no fuck that if I go and wreck your logic suddenly 50 more posts pop up that say that my logic is wrong or some shit and that is exactly what I am trying to avoid You have no logic. "I have no reason to town-read Superbia, so I'll lean-town-read him."
that's not even what we were discussing and you have a stupid amount of hubris this game
but don't mind me, I'm acting Illogical and only Mafia ever do that. Good Townies are always Rational Actors who always back up their posts with Reason.
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Alright here is the deal people: TT is just soo hit and miss. He barely posted anything therefore no content to analyse properly. HF is tunnelled for whatever meta reason he has and blindly sheeping him is nuts.
TT is basically a plynch at this point but there are 2-3 others with similar no content no opinion just shitposting filters.
Can we please reconsider our lynch?
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On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.
Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.
Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.
Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.
You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done. I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"? No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM? No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'. If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him. Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy. Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why. Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town? Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said " oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense. How do you know those people aren't mafia????
I don't. What I was saying there is that there is enough doubt about TT's alignment that scum have room to make a more coordinated defense of TT/ attack of someone else. And I don't see why they wouldn't because bussing is a horrendous scum move.
Although if I'm to trust TW, you guys actually bus on D1? wtf
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scum pool for today (I will not ever vote anyone outside of this pool today):
Skynx
Palmar
Superbia
Shapelog
Tictock
Holyflare
I recommend you all follow suit. though vivax and damdred are not completely stupid votes, just moderately stupid.
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On September 11 2016 03:44 Tumblewood wrote:
and to neverunlucky:
you are incredibly tunneled. I would wager that at least two of your scumreads are wrong. you're doing the stupid thing townies do all the time which is act like they've solved the game before there's a single flip and then refuse to change their positions. your reads are not as good as you think they are. reevaluate your scumreads. reevaluate your townreads. do this frequently.
Good, because I only have one scum-read right now.
act like they've solved the game before there's a single flip and then refuse to change their positions.
I'm not sure if you've read my posts this game...
I've been constantly changing my positions back and forth, doing 180s everywhere. What makes you say that my positions haven't been changing?
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Skynx, pls give your ideal targets instead of making an open-ended appeal.
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On September 11 2016 03:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:33 Skynx wrote:
So TT is afk.
HF sr's TT cuz according to meta TT should defend when pressured.
Grack defends TT cuz HF's points is weak.
HF sr's Grack cuz of defending an afk.
Tumble sr's HF cuz his points are invalid.
HF asks everyone to follow him cuz his reads are flawless.
While Shapelog, Super, Palmar are all MIA and posted no content.
fuba, calix and NU are fighting eachother for no reason.
Damdred and Vivax are kinda in and out.
game is hard. This is terrible fucking bs read. That's not why I'm mafia reading him at all.
You didn't like his wifom entry. You pressured him and he didn't defend. Those are your arguments around 35-40 am i not right? If not please tell cuz I'm not happy with TT lynch.
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On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.
Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.
Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.
Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.
You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done. I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"? No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM? No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'. If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him. Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy. Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why. Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town? Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said " oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense. How do you know those people aren't mafia????
It's so bull shit there's 6 people not voting and half the gane barely posts things and you jump to some conclusion mafia is doing some stuff to push tt because he's town??
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On September 11 2016 03:49 Calix wrote:
Skynx, pls give your ideal targets instead of making an open-ended appeal.
Palmar, Shape, Super. Possibly Damdred.
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On September 11 2016 03:48 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.
Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.
Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.
Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.
You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done. I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"? No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM? No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'. If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him. Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy. Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why. Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town? Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said " oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense. How do you know those people aren't mafia???? I don't. What I was saying there is that there is enough doubt about TT's alignment that scum have room to make a more coordinated defense of TT/ attack of someone else. And I don't see why they wouldn't because bussing is a horrendous scum move. Although if I'm to trust TW, you guys actually bus on D1? wtf
o ya
everyone is too afraid to get their hands dirty by soft defending / hard defending their partner before they flip. in 72h mafia, my last scum game, I bussed my partner rels as long as I was alive (though he survived until endgame). both of my teammates bussed me on d2. just an example
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On September 11 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:46 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 03:33 Skynx wrote:
So TT is afk.
HF sr's TT cuz according to meta TT should defend when pressured.
Grack defends TT cuz HF's points is weak.
HF sr's Grack cuz of defending an afk.
Tumble sr's HF cuz his points are invalid.
HF asks everyone to follow him cuz his reads are flawless.
While Shapelog, Super, Palmar are all MIA and posted no content.
fuba, calix and NU are fighting eachother for no reason.
Damdred and Vivax are kinda in and out.
game is hard. This is terrible fucking bs read. That's not why I'm mafia reading him at all. You didn't like his wifom entry. You pressured him and he didn't defend. Those are your arguments around 35-40 am i not right? If not please tell cuz I'm not happy with TT lynch.
No. Read again I even summarise my case during the pages multiple times. I don't think anyone that reads the thread properly can ever think this at all.
I'll go find the quotes.
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On September 11 2016 03:48 Skynx wrote:
Alright here is the deal people: TT is just soo hit and miss. He barely posted anything therefore no content to analyse properly. HF is tunnelled for whatever meta reason he has and blindly sheeping him is nuts.
TT is basically a plynch at this point but there are 2-3 others with similar no content no opinion just shitposting filters.
Can we please reconsider our lynch?
Agreed.
On September 11 2016 03:47 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On September 11 2016 01:23 Tumblewood wrote:On September 11 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 01:16 Tumblewood wrote:
I encourage everyone to look past Hf's "infallible logic" and see that he is saying that a player with no more than 5 posts is guaranteed mafia. Hf is not a stupid person, but saying it with such fiery conviction is stupid. I guess you could call that a contradiction, but more importantly this has "pushing a mislynch" written all over it.
my guess at a scumteam so far is hf/palmar/??? (possibly skynx for the dropoff, or Damdred for supporting Hf, or tt if you want to get tinfoily). I like grack's point on Palmar. honestly guys just listen to grack because he is far and away the smartest player this game. I have made super strong pushes just the same as this in many other games. Vivax has also SAID THAT ALREADY IN THIS GAME. Now, you admit it's a contradiction but yoh have failed to comment on my posts saying why it makes him mafia. If you are keen on continuing this push then fucking wreck my logic and show people how I'm mafia instead of these useless pushes that aren't convincing anyone. no fuck that if I go and wreck your logic suddenly 50 more posts pop up that say that my logic is wrong or some shit and that is exactly what I am trying to avoid You have no logic. "I have no reason to town-read Superbia, so I'll lean-town-read him." that's not even what we were discussing and you have a stupid amount of hubris this game but don't mind me, I'm acting Illogical and only Mafia ever do that. Good Townies are always Rational Actors who always back up their posts with Reason.
Great job twisting my post around to make it say something it doesn't imply.
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