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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 18:52 GMT
#901
Tumblewood, while I appreciate you calling out NU just because I agree, you're not going to have much luck in changing how he views things. He will just deny doing it and carry on making the same mistakes he's made the first dozen times.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 10 2016 18:54 GMT
#902
On September 11 2016 03:48 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.

Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.

Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.

Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.

You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done.


I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"?

No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM?

No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'.


If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him.

Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy.

Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why.

Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town?


Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense.


How do you know those people aren't mafia????


I don't. What I was saying there is that there is enough doubt about TT's alignment that scum have room to make a more coordinated defense of TT/ attack of someone else. And I don't see why they wouldn't because bussing is a horrendous scum move.

Although if I'm to trust TW, you guys actually bus on D1? wtf

Bussing on day 1 isn't that common here unless it's done so reactively i.e. this guy is screwed and I don't want to be one of the people not on his wagon on this vote.

Nobody is going to outright defend TT because he hasn't posted anything of value. The more important thing here is that nobody is really putting themselves out at all to push an alternative lynch aside from me and Tumblewood.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 18:55 GMT
#903
I like how HF says that me saying "the scum are allowing a townie to die" is "jumping to a conclusion"

It's a very simple argument to make about the stale TT wagon and lack of resistance.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 10 2016 18:55 GMT
#904
On September 11 2016 03:48 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.

Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.

Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.

Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.

You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done.


I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"?

No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM?

No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'.


If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him.

Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy.

Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why.

Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town?


Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense.


How do you know those people aren't mafia????


I don't. What I was saying there is that there is enough doubt about TT's alignment that scum have room to make a more coordinated defense of TT/ attack of someone else. And I don't see why they wouldn't because bussing is a horrendous scum move.

Although if I'm to trust TW, you guys actually bus on D1? wtf


We do too, Calix. You are not acknowledging it because we always ML D1. When we don't scum are always bussing.

If you don't bus, you're a shit tier player and should feel bad.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:56 GMT
#905
On September 10 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
No it's actually not at all. A certain scum read on someone at the start of the game generates a million times more discussion than crap discussions about mechanics, it also helps me make reads on people such as Grack being mafia now and it let's me see who is keen on just skating by and ignoring it.

It's a very strong opening.

But in this case I actually do think that Ticktock is mafia because:

Show nested quote +
On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts are:

TT did an opening to try and mimic Trfel from last game really obviously but it looked really forced/stiff
TT posted no content and only one liner posts agreeing
TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening
TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said
TT has gone afk and done nothing

But... he's not mafia?


On September 10 2016 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
This mindset is like someone coming in to the game and saying the following:

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for being so certain, trying to say I said things a different way, bla, bla bla."

or

"Oh, I know Grackaroni posted something boring that I haven't read on Holyflare but Holyflare is mafia for <insert reasons that COULD have already been talked about before>"

On September 10 2016 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Specifically if you call a thing boring you don't normally want to be talking about it.

If you call a thing boring and that you haven't read it you're not going to be posting about it since people could have already made the exact same point and you're wasting your time.

If you call a thing boring and you haven't read it then you aren't going to make your only content filled post on the game about it either.

On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics.

Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too.

On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote:
are you actually being fucking serious?

he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read:

a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset

b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said.

SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset.

Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia.


Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 18:58 GMT
#906
On September 11 2016 03:55 Calix wrote:
I like how HF says that me saying "the scum are allowing a townie to die" is "jumping to a conclusion"

It's a very simple argument to make about the stale TT wagon and lack of resistance.


It's a shit argument.

Gracj pushes off tt
Nu wants damdred
You use useless wifom shit
There's onky 3 ppl on tt
5 people afk
Tunble wants me

Why is your argument the most simple one? It's nit because it's bull shit to fit your wifom agenda of not voting tt.


Read my quotes EVERYONE IN THIS GAME.

PROVE MY LOGIC IS WRONG OR VOTE TT.

I'm actually sick of everyone dodging.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 10 2016 18:59 GMT
#907
On September 11 2016 03:52 Calix wrote:
Tumblewood, while I appreciate you calling out NU just because I agree, you're not going to have much luck in changing how he views things. He will just deny doing it and carry on making the same mistakes he's made the first dozen times.


Bite me.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 18:59 GMT
#908
On September 11 2016 03:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:48 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:27 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Calix you're either mafia or you don't know when you're wifoming.

Mafia can do anything they want at any point in the game and you don't know our meta. If anyone was throwing suspicions away from tt for no valid reason it would be you.

Tt has three votes, tt has not come back to post, people ARE defending tt etc etc.

Stop talking around people's posts and what THEY have done and talking about wifom scenarios it's bad play regardless of your alignment.

You should pick a person to mafia read and post why they are mafia for reasons rhey have done.


I know I am town. Why would I say "oh yeah I am defending TT so he must be mafia being defended"?

No, I don't know the meta. That doesn't make my point invalid. What are you even arguing here, that since nobody is defending him that he is still scum that the scum aren't trying to defend? Otherwise what is your point with WIFOM?

No idea what you are even calling me out for here with 'talking around posts'.


If you are defending him and are town then it goes to say that your entire point about mafia should be defending him if he's mafia is irrelevant because town can also defend him.

Wifom seems to be the entirety of your argument for not voting a scummy guy.

Everyone should look at my logic and say if it's right and sheep it because tt is mafia or wrong and he's not and PROVE why.

Also vivax why have you let damdred be there saying tt's mafia meta is to afk when you just saw him afk as town?


Mafia are not going to stand by and let one of their own die on Day 1. Several people have said "oh I don't find the TT case convincing" so it's not like the case is so airtight that the scum will give up if TT is scum. So the utter lack of scum defending him or pushing for a different train doesn't make sense.


How do you know those people aren't mafia????


I don't. What I was saying there is that there is enough doubt about TT's alignment that scum have room to make a more coordinated defense of TT/ attack of someone else. And I don't see why they wouldn't because bussing is a horrendous scum move.

Although if I'm to trust TW, you guys actually bus on D1? wtf


We do too, Calix. You are not acknowledging it because we always ML D1. When we don't scum are always bussing.

If you don't bus, you're a shit tier player and should feel bad.


I've had like, 10 scum games and I've yet to bus any of my partners aside from that one time one of my buddies got copped.

What do you make of the fact that Damdred said "I'm never getting lynched D1" and then disappeared after we said we would vote for him? I find that timing curious but not sure if it's AI or just coincidence.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 10 2016 19:00 GMT
#909
I have no idea why because I can't identify any of Damdred's posts that make me feel this way, but I think Shapelog/TT would both be better lynches than Damdred.

I still fully expect Palmar to show up in some capacity before the deadline, and hopefully he can weigh in on what I've written about HF.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 10 2016 19:03 GMT
#910
HF, are you saying in the first post you quoted that you made your scum read to try to generate discussion?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 19:03 GMT
#911
It was a minor point that developed into more when i thought about it later.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 10 2016 19:04 GMT
#912
Lol I walk away to do things and suddenly I dissapear? That's pretty hilarious tbh.

The simple fact is your theory isn't as strong as you make it out to be and now you hope you can push through a lynch on me. That's equally comical.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 19:04 GMT
#913
I push it so hard for discussion not just make it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 19:04 GMT
#914
On September 11 2016 03:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 03:55 Calix wrote:
I like how HF says that me saying "the scum are allowing a townie to die" is "jumping to a conclusion"

It's a very simple argument to make about the stale TT wagon and lack of resistance.


It's a shit argument.

Gracj pushes off tt
Nu wants damdred
You use useless wifom shit
There's onky 3 ppl on tt
5 people afk
Tunble wants me

Why is your argument the most simple one? It's nit because it's bull shit to fit your wifom agenda of not voting tt.


Read my quotes EVERYONE IN THIS GAME.

PROVE MY LOGIC IS WRONG OR VOTE TT.

I'm actually sick of everyone dodging.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 10 2016 19:05 GMT
#915
On September 11 2016 04:00 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no idea why because I can't identify any of Damdred's posts that make me feel this way, but I think Shapelog/TT would both be better lynches than Damdred.

I still fully expect Palmar to show up in some capacity before the deadline, and hopefully he can weigh in on what I've written about HF.


My heart glitters as you mention my name.

But on a serious side, grac I think sky is interesting he's usually so... closed with who he wants to lynch bit he has such a wide variety keeping,hi a options open. What do you think of this?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:05 GMT
#916
On September 11 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Lol I walk away to do things and suddenly I dissapear? That's pretty hilarious tbh.

The simple fact is your theory isn't as strong as you make it out to be and now you hope you can push through a lynch on me. That's equally comical.



You're not very good at this, are you? If you stop posting after being voted, that looks like you disappeared.

Bonus points for coming back in a grand four minutes after I talked about you. Busy indeed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 19:06 GMT
#917
Fucking comment on my case or i will lynch you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 19:07 GMT
#918
The amount of tt dodge is exceptionally high.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 19:08 GMT
#919
Piss off, HF. We've spent most of the day discussing the case. Spamming the chat with your whining is doing nothing but regurgitating info.

I'm more inclined to not vote for TT just to spite you if nothing else at this point.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 10 2016 19:08 GMT
#920
On September 11 2016 03:59 Calix wrote:I've had like, 10 scum games and I've yet to bus any of my partners aside from that one time one of my buddies got copped.

What do you make of the fact that Damdred said "I'm never getting lynched D1" and then disappeared after we said we would vote for him? I find that timing curious but not sure if it's AI or just coincidence.


You only got away with not bussing your mates because SC2 Mafia is the Motherland of scrubs-who-town-read-players-based-on-activity.

I frankly have no opinion on this.

What do you think of FM on this site?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
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