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Poll: Recommend Snute vs Hydra Game 1?★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9) 82% ★★★ - Good game (1) 9% ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1) 9% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Snute vs Hydra Game 1? (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
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Snute needs that first loss to get his rythm, like yesterday 
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On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax. He's pretty bad.
if he only had a brain 
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ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss.
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yo Snute... upgrades are pretty good in RvR
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Anyway, it is great, we do not have another ZvZ final ... At least, Hydra vs. Polt would be a great joke for the new WCS system, next year, they will need to ban also Koreigners. But I still hope for Snute ...
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On March 05 2016 21:59 Golgotha wrote:
ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss.
was he? had no +1 or lair, Hydra could counter attack at any moment, but he just waited for the biggest upgrade advantage (while also keeping their eco quite even)
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I don't understand. If you skip all upgrades and push out only army, shouldn't you attack yourself o.O Cmon Snute, it would be so lame to have another korean finals in 2-player korean tournament ...
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On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax. He's pretty bad.
What I don't understand is why.
With his control, which is still top notch I believe, I mean he used to be at or nearly at Maru's level of micro, you can pick a standard build and scout/scan for a few key gas timings/tech choices and fairly reliably get to the stage of the game where MK does very well. It wouldn't take much...
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looked like Snute had never any advantage
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Snute thought he was behind and that his best shot at winning was to max out with a low drone count so he would have more units than hydra. also afforded him more ravagers, so he wanted one very strong maxed out push, but hydra hit the 2-1 timing before snute maxed, so they were at even army supply instead of snute being ahead
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On March 05 2016 21:59 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax. He's pretty bad. if he only had a brain
Yeah that would help. But he also looks really rusty. Like, he used to be a high caliber pro but on his stream his play is pretty average. Weaker than most Korean Terrans I've seen stream LotV.
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On March 05 2016 21:48 Elentos wrote:
I missed G3 of Nerchio vs Polt, how was it?
+1/+0(not sure on def upgrade)/stim/CS marine marauder hellbat push, Nerchio felt it was coming but still died
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On March 05 2016 22:01 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax. He's pretty bad. What I don't understand is why. With his control, which is still top notch I believe, I mean he used to be at or nearly at Maru's level of micro, you can pick a standard build and scout/scan for a few key gas timings/tech choices and fairly reliably get to the stage of the game where MK does very well. It wouldn't take much...
he also doesnt have any decision making so he would never play out a normal game like Maru does
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On March 05 2016 22:00 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:59 Golgotha wrote:
ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss. was he? had no +1 or lair, Hydra could counter attack at any moment, but he just waited for the biggest upgrade advantage (while also keeping their eco quite even)
yeah I think he wasn't really ahead, less supply so he was under threat of an attack and couldn't safely transition to lair/upgrades etc which in the end was the cause of his demise
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the difference between Polt and MajOr is that Polt will go for the throat when he creates advantage and he will finish the Zerg off
Polt is also a lot more cost efficient than Major. Major usually goes "all in" on being able to get an economic lead through his harass whereas that isn't as necceasary for Polt as he has the skills to be a lot more cost efficient.
If you watch the FPV of both players, you will notice that Polt spends a lot more time managing his main army whereas it takes (too) low priority for Major.
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On March 05 2016 21:59 Golgotha wrote:
ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss.
I don't think he was ahead at all afterwards. He was 13 drones behind, had no upgrades and no lair. Getting an empty third base doesn't do nearly enough.
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On March 05 2016 22:00 Diabolique wrote:
Anyway, it is great, we do not have another ZvZ final ... At least, Hydra vs. Polt would be a great joke for the new WCS system, next year, they will need to ban also Koreigners. But I still hope for Snute ...
I think Blizzard is just waiting for them to retire lol, banning them would be kinda messed up lol
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On March 05 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:59 Die4Ever wrote:On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax. He's pretty bad. if he only had a brain Yeah that would help. But he also looks really rusty. Like, he used to be a high caliber pro but on his stream his play is pretty average. Weaker than most Korean Terrans I've seen stream LotV.
If you ever play him, just 1 base roach rush every single game. Worked for Symbol.
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