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Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
March 06 2016 16:52 GMT
#1961
On March 07 2016 00:26 messioso wrote:
Didn't catch as much as I wanted to but the games were good and it was great to see everyone again )

The replays will get posted right?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 06 2016 17:26 GMT
#1962
Messioso posting in this thread that late is nicely trolling all the replay hunters , when they see his name as the last poster
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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vInSMoke
Profile Joined March 2016
9 Posts
March 06 2016 18:56 GMT
#1963
where i can download the replay pack of IEM ?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
March 06 2016 19:43 GMT
#1964
On March 06 2016 13:08 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 03:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 06 2016 03:08 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 06 2016 03:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 06 2016 02:57 Cricketer12 wrote:
Was on a plane. Missed the finals. Was it good?

I enjoyed it. Polt played really tricky though, resulting in some fun but strange games with a lot of mistakes from both sides. Overall I think you should watch it !

I'll watch it in a bit. Only caught game 6.

I'd say that was the highlight of the series though the rest is not bad, but a lot of it was decided by build orders and -especially- Snute's lack of scouting.

i tried to scout on prion but it was shut down, my overlord path was very badly chosen so that's on me. from there though, the issue was a combo of overdroning and not having enough gas early enough (macro mistake) plus some bad control. strategically, the game was in my zerg hands obviously (2x gold vs medivac-less allin)

on central protocol i knew it would be a 2base allin but overestimated the time before his moveout would happen, once again overdroning/transitional error, trying to get too big of a lead instead of just massing roaches safely. big mistake.

gamesense/general intelligence in zvt hasn't been my strongest suit so to me this was a very hard finals to play and not really a surprising result, a lot of other zergs are far smarter when it comes to dealing with 2 base allins like this. i don't think the terran builds are good in and of themselves. ladder zergs would probably win the games that i didn't. i got a lot of comments from close friends as well as the other pros that it was very throw-ish, and that's 100% justified.

polt is very smart and his builds unorthodox, i expected 2-base allins but missed important 'target counts' in transitions and that lost me two very important games. i could afford losing on seras and orbital to some extent but not with failing the other simple checks.
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 01:57 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 06 2016 01:53 Poopi wrote:
I don't know if Snute over-performed or if Koreans are just easy to beat in ZvZ currently

Snute is historically the foreign ZvZ god as he had the habit of bullying HyuN, and he often came close of beating JaeDong though he never took a series off him

thank you, i think my preparation was great this time for my zvzs, very happy and proud of it (edit: except for game 1 in each series was very derpy, game 2 vs violet and g4 vs hydra was kinda silly too), also i beat jaedong in lotv at gpl intl challenge finally on average my zvz isn't that great just yet but for this run preparation helped a lot. i expect to get a lot better at zvz in the future, will continue to study nerchio's games and other top zvz players to help gain more consistency

Thanks a million times for sharing those thoughts, very insightful. You impressed me a lot during the tournament, I wish you all the best in LotV.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
March 06 2016 19:57 GMT
#1965
<3 Snute <3
Next time you'll get first place!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
March 06 2016 23:34 GMT
#1966
*Yawn* Polt was donated another WCS welfare win yet again. Glad I didn't watch this tournament.
StronGerSC2
Profile Joined December 2014
Spain20 Posts
March 06 2016 23:56 GMT
#1967
replays??
Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
March 07 2016 04:46 GMT
#1968
On March 06 2016 13:08 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 03:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 06 2016 03:08 IntoTheheart wrote:
On March 06 2016 03:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 06 2016 02:57 Cricketer12 wrote:
Was on a plane. Missed the finals. Was it good?

I enjoyed it. Polt played really tricky though, resulting in some fun but strange games with a lot of mistakes from both sides. Overall I think you should watch it !

I'll watch it in a bit. Only caught game 6.

I'd say that was the highlight of the series though the rest is not bad, but a lot of it was decided by build orders and -especially- Snute's lack of scouting.

i tried to scout on prion but it was shut down, my overlord path was very badly chosen so that's on me. from there though, the issue was a combo of overdroning and not having enough gas early enough (macro mistake) plus some bad control. strategically, the game was in my zerg hands obviously (2x gold vs medivac-less allin)

on central protocol i knew it would be a 2base allin but overestimated the time before his moveout would happen, once again overdroning/transitional error, trying to get too big of a lead instead of just massing roaches safely. big mistake.

gamesense/general intelligence in zvt hasn't been my strongest suit so to me this was a very hard finals to play and not really a surprising result, a lot of other zergs are far smarter when it comes to dealing with 2 base allins like this. i don't think the terran builds are good in and of themselves. ladder zergs would probably win the games that i didn't. i got a lot of comments from close friends as well as the other pros that it was very throw-ish, and that's 100% justified.

polt is very smart and his builds unorthodox, i expected 2-base allins but missed important 'target counts' in transitions and that lost me two very important games. i could afford losing on seras and orbital to some extent but not with failing the other simple checks.
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2016 01:57 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 06 2016 01:53 Poopi wrote:
I don't know if Snute over-performed or if Koreans are just easy to beat in ZvZ currently

Snute is historically the foreign ZvZ god as he had the habit of bullying HyuN, and he often came close of beating JaeDong though he never took a series off him

thank you, i think my preparation was great this time for my zvzs, very happy and proud of it (edit: except for game 1 in each series was very derpy, game 2 vs violet and g4 vs hydra was kinda silly too), also i beat jaedong in lotv at gpl intl challenge finally on average my zvz isn't that great just yet but for this run preparation helped a lot. i expect to get a lot better at zvz in the future, will continue to study nerchio's games and other top zvz players to help gain more consistency


Well done on a terrific tournament Snute! You've always been my favorite foreigner (and I dislike the Z race in general, especially SH, which you made utterly magical). Was really torn rooting between you and Polt since you're both everything that's great in the SC2 scene. Decided to just enjoy the series and was thrilled you both combined to deliver some exhilarating games.

My favorite takeaway was the long embrace you shared afterwards and the words shared. Such mutual respect and class. All of us here (who are so much less talented and will never play for anything close to those stakes) would do well to remember that. Great to see you rising up again and really hope to see you hold the trophy soon. Your fans are proud!
Flash I Jaedong I herO I Best I Maru I Rogue
vInSMoke
Profile Joined March 2016
9 Posts
March 07 2016 22:51 GMT
#1969
where is the replay pack ¬¬
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13995 Posts
March 07 2016 23:45 GMT
#1970
On March 08 2016 07:51 vInSMoke wrote:
where is the replay pack ¬¬

Just go to the esl youtube page...its been there for days...
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12449 Posts
March 08 2016 00:02 GMT
#1971
On March 08 2016 08:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 07:51 vInSMoke wrote:
where is the replay pack ¬¬

Just go to the esl youtube page...its been there for days...


~~ I actually believed you. Replays, sir, replays.
No will to live, no wish to die
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13995 Posts
March 08 2016 22:21 GMT
#1972
On March 08 2016 09:02 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 08:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 08 2016 07:51 vInSMoke wrote:
where is the replay pack ¬¬

Just go to the esl youtube page...its been there for days...


~~ I actually believed you. Replays, sir, replays.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhCH_nPE4JTp5J2TUqD2dkCgVvCtfDw-g

Unless you looking for link to download in game replay not sure what else you want.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 22:36:35
March 08 2016 22:36 GMT
#1973
On March 09 2016 07:21 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 09:02 Nebuchad wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On March 08 2016 07:51 vInSMoke wrote:
where is the replay pack ¬¬

Just go to the esl youtube page...its been there for days...


~~ I actually believed you. Replays, sir, replays.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhCH_nPE4JTp5J2TUqD2dkCgVvCtfDw-g

Unless you looking for link to download in game replay not sure what else you want.

Yes that is exactly what he is looking for
Typically people call these vods, not replays (the videos in your link that is)
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BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
March 10 2016 10:41 GMT
#1974
we need the replays!
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