[WCS] IEM Katowice - Day 4 - Page 98

On March 06 2016 07:19 p4ch1n0 wrote:


If you split it up in multiple naps, 4 hours is just fine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep

On March 06 2016 03:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:

I'd say that was the highlight of the series though the rest is not bad, but a lot of it was decided by build orders and -especially- Snute's lack of scouting.

On March 06 2016 01:57 OtherWorld wrote:

Snute is historically the foreign ZvZ god as he had the habit of bullying HyuN, and he often came close of beating JaeDong though he never took a series off him

On March 06 2016 13:08 Liquid`Snute wrote:

i tried to scout on prion but it was shut down, my overlord path was very badly chosen so that's on me. from there though, the issue was a combo of overdroning and not having enough gas early enough (macro mistake) plus some bad control. strategically, the game was in my zerg hands obviously (2x gold vs medivac-less allin)

on central protocol i knew it would be a 2base allin but overestimated the time before his moveout would happen, once again overdroning/transitional error, trying to get too big of a lead instead of just massing roaches safely. big mistake.

gamesense/general intelligence in zvt hasn't been my strongest suit so to me this was a very hard finals to play and not really a surprising result, a lot of other zergs are far smarter when it comes to dealing with 2 base allins like this. i don't think the terran builds are good in and of themselves. ladder zergs would probably win the games that i didn't. i got a lot of comments from close friends as well as the other pros that it was very throw-ish, and that's 100% justified.

polt is very smart and his builds unorthodox, i expected 2-base allins but missed important 'target counts' in transitions and that lost me two very important games. i could afford losing on seras and orbital to some extent but not with failing the other simple checks.

thank you, i think my preparation was great this time for my zvzs, very happy and proud of it (edit: except for game 1 in each series was very derpy, game 2 vs violet and g4 vs hydra was kinda silly too), also i beat jaedong in lotv at gpl intl challenge finally on average my zvz isn't that great just yet but for this run preparation helped a lot. i expect to get a lot better at zvz in the future, will continue to study nerchio's games and other top zvz players to help gain more consistency

On March 06 2016 13:08 Liquid`Snute wrote:

i tried to scout on prion but it was shut down, my overlord path was very badly chosen so that's on me. from there though, the issue was a combo of overdroning and not having enough gas early enough (macro mistake) plus some bad control. strategically, the game was in my zerg hands obviously (2x gold vs medivac-less allin)

on central protocol i knew it would be a 2base allin but overestimated the time before his moveout would happen, once again overdroning/transitional error, trying to get too big of a lead instead of just massing roaches safely. big mistake.

gamesense/general intelligence in zvt hasn't been my strongest suit so to me this was a very hard finals to play and not really a surprising result, a lot of other zergs are far smarter when it comes to dealing with 2 base allins like this. i don't think the terran builds are good in and of themselves. ladder zergs would probably win the games that i didn't. i got a lot of comments from close friends as well as the other pros that it was very throw-ish, and that's 100% justified.

polt is very smart and his builds unorthodox, i expected 2-base allins but missed important 'target counts' in transitions and that lost me two very important games. i could afford losing on seras and orbital to some extent but not with failing the other simple checks.

thank you, i think my preparation was great this time for my zvzs, very happy and proud of it (edit: except for game 1 in each series was very derpy, game 2 vs violet and g4 vs hydra was kinda silly too), also i beat jaedong in lotv at gpl intl challenge finally on average my zvz isn't that great just yet but for this run preparation helped a lot. i expect to get a lot better at zvz in the future, will continue to study nerchio's games and other top zvz players to help gain more consistency

On March 06 2016 13:08 Liquid`Snute wrote:

i tried to scout on prion but it was shut down, my overlord path was very badly chosen so that's on me. from there though, the issue was a combo of overdroning and not having enough gas early enough (macro mistake) plus some bad control. strategically, the game was in my zerg hands obviously (2x gold vs medivac-less allin)

on central protocol i knew it would be a 2base allin but overestimated the time before his moveout would happen, once again overdroning/transitional error, trying to get too big of a lead instead of just massing roaches safely. big mistake.

gamesense/general intelligence in zvt hasn't been my strongest suit so to me this was a very hard finals to play and not really a surprising result, a lot of other zergs are far smarter when it comes to dealing with 2 base allins like this. i don't think the terran builds are good in and of themselves. ladder zergs would probably win the games that i didn't. i got a lot of comments from close friends as well as the other pros that it was very throw-ish, and that's 100% justified.

polt is very smart and his builds unorthodox, i expected 2-base allins but missed important 'target counts' in transitions and that lost me two very important games. i could afford losing on seras and orbital to some extent but not with failing the other simple checks.

thank you, i think my preparation was great this time for my zvzs, very happy and proud of it (edit: except for game 1 in each series was very derpy, game 2 vs violet and g4 vs hydra was kinda silly too), also i beat jaedong in lotv at gpl intl challenge finally on average my zvz isn't that great just yet but for this run preparation helped a lot. i expect to get a lot better at zvz in the future, will continue to study nerchio's games and other top zvz players to help gain more consistency

On March 06 2016 16:11 Liquid`Snute wrote:
just what i like calling things i guess, say you can have a target drone count or 'macro target' or whatever be ... 2 gases, 16 drones on minerals in main and natural, a roach warren and then spamming roach drone queen. that is just one example. or you can have a transition that involves going up to 6 gases, 50 workers, and a spire, stuff like that. depending on the transition you choose (/what "target" you set) against a certain build - AND your execution, the game state will either favor you, be even, or you may even lose. for example on central protocol, i went up to 6gases and made infestors (way above a reasonable target) against a timing that 4gas roach ravager spam would have dealt with. so a transition error after a successful defense that lead into a defense failure.

On March 06 2016 13:08 Liquid`Snute wrote:
thank you, i think my preparation was great this time for my zvzs, very happy and proud of it

On March 06 2016 22:25 xtorn wrote:


All things considered, you did a fantastic job! they say 2nd place hurts more than 3rd, but i think your hard work pays off and you are doing so much better with each tournament that you take part in.