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stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
March 05 2016 12:50 GMT
#461
On March 05 2016 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:45 opisska wrote:
C'mno, stop saying that the first two games were close. Nerchio was going for the ultra attack from the start and Polt had probably his reaction planned as well. The supplies might have been close and what not, but with hidsight, knowing what both players had in store, both games went straight towards the Polt victory, from start to the end. It would be like saying that a PvZ WoL game was close, but then suddenly, the Zerg hatched BLs and infestors and it swung heavily into his favour.

Both games were even up to the point where Nerchio started falling apart to drops. Really just came to Nerchio's inferior multitasking.

Yes. There were moments were Nerchio got significant leads but his attempts to counter and win a game were shut down by Polt always dropping. In my opinion it was close because Polt was one mistake short from loosing matches. But on the other hand, he never did those mistakes so it's fair for someone else to say it was straightforward.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 05 2016 12:51 GMT
#462
On March 05 2016 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:45 opisska wrote:
C'mno, stop saying that the first two games were close. Nerchio was going for the ultra attack from the start and Polt had probably his reaction planned as well. The supplies might have been close and what not, but with hidsight, knowing what both players had in store, both games went straight towards the Polt victory, from start to the end. It would be like saying that a PvZ WoL game was close, but then suddenly, the Zerg hatched BLs and infestors and it swung heavily into his favour.

Both games were even up to the point where Nerchio started falling apart to drops. Really just came to Nerchio's inferior multitasking.


That probably depends on your definition of even. A game doesn't seem even to me when one side has a great potential to swing it to their favour very shortly. It's like real life, when considering a person's worth, you should take into account their debts and investments. The game would have been even if they had compatable armies, ecos AND Nerchio had a good anti-drop settings.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
March 05 2016 12:51 GMT
#463
On March 05 2016 21:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
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On March 05 2016 21:45 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Sorry Hydra but I kinda agree with the majority, I want to see the defensive lategame playstyle of Snute vs Polt. And Polt vs Hydra would just make non Korean foreigners look too bad.

well they are bad

Honestly people like Snute / MLord / Neeb / Nerchio / ShoWTime have legit potential


Potential does not make wins, unfortunately.

Sure Polt was and is one of the best players whom ever touch SC2, sure Hydra is a beast (and an SC1 champion btw), but even with new WCS rules, foreigners doesn't shine so much. The WCS Global is going to be brutal.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 05 2016 12:51 GMT
#464
On March 05 2016 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:45 opisska wrote:
C'mno, stop saying that the first two games were close. Nerchio was going for the ultra attack from the start and Polt had probably his reaction planned as well. The supplies might have been close and what not, but with hidsight, knowing what both players had in store, both games went straight towards the Polt victory, from start to the end. It would be like saying that a PvZ WoL game was close, but then suddenly, the Zerg hatched BLs and infestors and it swung heavily into his favour.

Both games were even up to the point where Nerchio started falling apart to drops. Really just came to Nerchio's inferior multitasking.

Anyway, Nerchio played an excellent tournament and losing to Polt is not a shame ... he has beaten sOs in the last big online tournament (even when sOs was playing in the middle of the new year's night) ... It was just stupid that in the RO32 and RO16 of the tournament, both the casters and the players were saying: 'I made several mistakes, but fortunately, the opponent has made several mistakes as well", then you laugh about the "best player's in the world" ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17731 Posts
March 05 2016 12:52 GMT
#465
On March 05 2016 21:46 sharkie wrote:
hydra is a former BW MSL champion, no one in this tournament beats him in mechanics

thankfully there's more to the game than just mechanics, otherwise it'd just be stepmania
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2016 12:52 GMT
#466
supply block doesn't matter that much, what matters is that Snute has 0 vision now
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 05 2016 12:52 GMT
#467
hello
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 05 2016 12:53 GMT
#468
On March 05 2016 21:51 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:45 opisska wrote:
C'mno, stop saying that the first two games were close. Nerchio was going for the ultra attack from the start and Polt had probably his reaction planned as well. The supplies might have been close and what not, but with hidsight, knowing what both players had in store, both games went straight towards the Polt victory, from start to the end. It would be like saying that a PvZ WoL game was close, but then suddenly, the Zerg hatched BLs and infestors and it swung heavily into his favour.

Both games were even up to the point where Nerchio started falling apart to drops. Really just came to Nerchio's inferior multitasking.

Anyway, Nerchio played an excellent tournament and losing to Polt is not a shame ... he has beaten sOs in the last big online tournament (even when sOs was playing in the middle of the new year's night) ... It was just stupid that in the RO32 and RO16 of the tournament, both the casters and the players were saying: 'I made several mistakes, but fortunately, the opponent has made several mistakes as well", then you laugh about the "best player's in the world" ...

I can respect the way Nerchio lost, too- it fits with his style and Polt's style, and didn't come off as him choking or playing like shit or making dumb mistakes but rather his style just not working against a well-prepared and brilliantly playing Polt. I thought he'd put up a better fight to make it scrappier, but still. v0v
Writermaru pls
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2016 12:53 GMT
#469
On March 05 2016 21:52 Alchemik wrote:
hello

what is this flair???
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
March 05 2016 12:53 GMT
#470
hmm, attacker loses usually..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#471
Go snute!!!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#472
Hydras counter is going to be huge
Neosteel Enthusiast
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#473
looks like an all-in to me if you sac glial and +1
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#474
On March 05 2016 21:50 sharkie wrote:
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On March 05 2016 21:49 Schelim wrote:
tbh it would be kinda epic if Snute beats all 3 Koreans. i think he has a chance against Hydra but i doubt he can beat Polt. would be a sick city finals though.


It would completely overshadow Lilbow's achievement yeah


Absolutely.

If he can grab this win and make a good season after that, it will push him in the same tier as Naniwa and Stephano.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#475
I like the idea from Snute but will he hold the counter push ?
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#476
On March 05 2016 21:53 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:52 Alchemik wrote:
hello

what is this flair???

I've had it for so long, how did you only notice now
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2016 12:55 GMT
#477
On March 05 2016 21:54 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:53 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:52 Alchemik wrote:
hello

what is this flair???

I've had it for so long, how did you only notice now

i have already forgotten what your flair was
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 05 2016 12:55 GMT
#478
On March 05 2016 21:54 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:50 sharkie wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:49 Schelim wrote:
tbh it would be kinda epic if Snute beats all 3 Koreans. i think he has a chance against Hydra but i doubt he can beat Polt. would be a sick city finals though.


It would completely overshadow Lilbow's achievement yeah


Absolutely.

If he can grab this win and make a good season after that, it will push him in the same tier as Naniwa and Stephano.

Nah, it won't. NaNiwa's still ahead by a pretty huge amount, and neither Polt nor Hydra nor viOLet are really world-class (except maybe Polt) while NaNiwa's ahead by like.. 10-12 world-class players defeated or something. He'd need a RIDICULOUS year to catch NaNi.

(got stu to do the math)
Writermaru pls
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
March 05 2016 12:55 GMT
#479
On March 05 2016 21:54 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:50 sharkie wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:49 Schelim wrote:
tbh it would be kinda epic if Snute beats all 3 Koreans. i think he has a chance against Hydra but i doubt he can beat Polt. would be a sick city finals though.


It would completely overshadow Lilbow's achievement yeah


Absolutely.

If he can grab this win and make a good season after that, it will push him in the same tier as Naniwa and Stephano.

even if he just grabs the win, after all he already holds maybe the most impressive performance by a foreigner vs top class Koreans with his victories vs Rain and Classic (who were current GSL and SSL champions) in the same event.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 05 2016 12:55 GMT
#480
Wow hydra doesn't attack? Feels like he missed a timing
Neosteel Enthusiast
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