• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:24
CEST 13:24
KST 20:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy5uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple5SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Lambo Talks: The Future of SC2 and more... uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Global Tourney for College Students in September
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! New season has just come in ladder BW General Discussion BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Bitcoin discussion thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 615 users

[WCS] IEM Katowice - Day 4 - Page 24

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 99 Next
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
March 05 2016 12:50 GMT
#461
On March 05 2016 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:45 opisska wrote:
C'mno, stop saying that the first two games were close. Nerchio was going for the ultra attack from the start and Polt had probably his reaction planned as well. The supplies might have been close and what not, but with hidsight, knowing what both players had in store, both games went straight towards the Polt victory, from start to the end. It would be like saying that a PvZ WoL game was close, but then suddenly, the Zerg hatched BLs and infestors and it swung heavily into his favour.

Both games were even up to the point where Nerchio started falling apart to drops. Really just came to Nerchio's inferior multitasking.

Yes. There were moments were Nerchio got significant leads but his attempts to counter and win a game were shut down by Polt always dropping. In my opinion it was close because Polt was one mistake short from loosing matches. But on the other hand, he never did those mistakes so it's fair for someone else to say it was straightforward.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 05 2016 12:51 GMT
#462
On March 05 2016 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:45 opisska wrote:
C'mno, stop saying that the first two games were close. Nerchio was going for the ultra attack from the start and Polt had probably his reaction planned as well. The supplies might have been close and what not, but with hidsight, knowing what both players had in store, both games went straight towards the Polt victory, from start to the end. It would be like saying that a PvZ WoL game was close, but then suddenly, the Zerg hatched BLs and infestors and it swung heavily into his favour.

Both games were even up to the point where Nerchio started falling apart to drops. Really just came to Nerchio's inferior multitasking.


That probably depends on your definition of even. A game doesn't seem even to me when one side has a great potential to swing it to their favour very shortly. It's like real life, when considering a person's worth, you should take into account their debts and investments. The game would have been even if they had compatable armies, ecos AND Nerchio had a good anti-drop settings.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
March 05 2016 12:51 GMT
#463
On March 05 2016 21:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:45 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Sorry Hydra but I kinda agree with the majority, I want to see the defensive lategame playstyle of Snute vs Polt. And Polt vs Hydra would just make non Korean foreigners look too bad.

well they are bad

Honestly people like Snute / MLord / Neeb / Nerchio / ShoWTime have legit potential


Potential does not make wins, unfortunately.

Sure Polt was and is one of the best players whom ever touch SC2, sure Hydra is a beast (and an SC1 champion btw), but even with new WCS rules, foreigners doesn't shine so much. The WCS Global is going to be brutal.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 05 2016 12:51 GMT
#464
On March 05 2016 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:45 opisska wrote:
C'mno, stop saying that the first two games were close. Nerchio was going for the ultra attack from the start and Polt had probably his reaction planned as well. The supplies might have been close and what not, but with hidsight, knowing what both players had in store, both games went straight towards the Polt victory, from start to the end. It would be like saying that a PvZ WoL game was close, but then suddenly, the Zerg hatched BLs and infestors and it swung heavily into his favour.

Both games were even up to the point where Nerchio started falling apart to drops. Really just came to Nerchio's inferior multitasking.

Anyway, Nerchio played an excellent tournament and losing to Polt is not a shame ... he has beaten sOs in the last big online tournament (even when sOs was playing in the middle of the new year's night) ... It was just stupid that in the RO32 and RO16 of the tournament, both the casters and the players were saying: 'I made several mistakes, but fortunately, the opponent has made several mistakes as well", then you laugh about the "best player's in the world" ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
March 05 2016 12:52 GMT
#465
On March 05 2016 21:46 sharkie wrote:
hydra is a former BW MSL champion, no one in this tournament beats him in mechanics

thankfully there's more to the game than just mechanics, otherwise it'd just be stepmania
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2016 12:52 GMT
#466
supply block doesn't matter that much, what matters is that Snute has 0 vision now
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 05 2016 12:52 GMT
#467
hello
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 05 2016 12:53 GMT
#468
On March 05 2016 21:51 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:45 opisska wrote:
C'mno, stop saying that the first two games were close. Nerchio was going for the ultra attack from the start and Polt had probably his reaction planned as well. The supplies might have been close and what not, but with hidsight, knowing what both players had in store, both games went straight towards the Polt victory, from start to the end. It would be like saying that a PvZ WoL game was close, but then suddenly, the Zerg hatched BLs and infestors and it swung heavily into his favour.

Both games were even up to the point where Nerchio started falling apart to drops. Really just came to Nerchio's inferior multitasking.

Anyway, Nerchio played an excellent tournament and losing to Polt is not a shame ... he has beaten sOs in the last big online tournament (even when sOs was playing in the middle of the new year's night) ... It was just stupid that in the RO32 and RO16 of the tournament, both the casters and the players were saying: 'I made several mistakes, but fortunately, the opponent has made several mistakes as well", then you laugh about the "best player's in the world" ...

I can respect the way Nerchio lost, too- it fits with his style and Polt's style, and didn't come off as him choking or playing like shit or making dumb mistakes but rather his style just not working against a well-prepared and brilliantly playing Polt. I thought he'd put up a better fight to make it scrappier, but still. v0v
Writermaru pls
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2016 12:53 GMT
#469
On March 05 2016 21:52 Alchemik wrote:
hello

what is this flair???
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
March 05 2016 12:53 GMT
#470
hmm, attacker loses usually..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#471
Go snute!!!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#472
Hydras counter is going to be huge
Neosteel Enthusiast
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#473
looks like an all-in to me if you sac glial and +1
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#474
On March 05 2016 21:50 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:49 Schelim wrote:
tbh it would be kinda epic if Snute beats all 3 Koreans. i think he has a chance against Hydra but i doubt he can beat Polt. would be a sick city finals though.


It would completely overshadow Lilbow's achievement yeah


Absolutely.

If he can grab this win and make a good season after that, it will push him in the same tier as Naniwa and Stephano.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#475
I like the idea from Snute but will he hold the counter push ?
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 05 2016 12:54 GMT
#476
On March 05 2016 21:53 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:52 Alchemik wrote:
hello

what is this flair???

I've had it for so long, how did you only notice now
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2016 12:55 GMT
#477
On March 05 2016 21:54 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:53 Ej_ wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:52 Alchemik wrote:
hello

what is this flair???

I've had it for so long, how did you only notice now

i have already forgotten what your flair was
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 05 2016 12:55 GMT
#478
On March 05 2016 21:54 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:50 sharkie wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:49 Schelim wrote:
tbh it would be kinda epic if Snute beats all 3 Koreans. i think he has a chance against Hydra but i doubt he can beat Polt. would be a sick city finals though.


It would completely overshadow Lilbow's achievement yeah


Absolutely.

If he can grab this win and make a good season after that, it will push him in the same tier as Naniwa and Stephano.

Nah, it won't. NaNiwa's still ahead by a pretty huge amount, and neither Polt nor Hydra nor viOLet are really world-class (except maybe Polt) while NaNiwa's ahead by like.. 10-12 world-class players defeated or something. He'd need a RIDICULOUS year to catch NaNi.

(got stu to do the math)
Writermaru pls
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
March 05 2016 12:55 GMT
#479
On March 05 2016 21:54 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:50 sharkie wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:49 Schelim wrote:
tbh it would be kinda epic if Snute beats all 3 Koreans. i think he has a chance against Hydra but i doubt he can beat Polt. would be a sick city finals though.


It would completely overshadow Lilbow's achievement yeah


Absolutely.

If he can grab this win and make a good season after that, it will push him in the same tier as Naniwa and Stephano.

even if he just grabs the win, after all he already holds maybe the most impressive performance by a foreigner vs top class Koreans with his victories vs Rain and Classic (who were current GSL and SSL champions) in the same event.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 05 2016 12:55 GMT
#480
Wow hydra doesn't attack? Feels like he missed a timing
Neosteel Enthusiast
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 99 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Summer Champion…
11:00
Group Stage 1 - Group B
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 87
IndyStarCraft 51
SC2_NightMare 13
Harstem 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25829
Rain 16331
Bisu 1352
Larva 891
Jaedong 707
BeSt 377
ggaemo 281
Mini 265
EffOrt 242
Zeus 217
[ Show more ]
Last 176
Rush 145
Hyun 102
ZerO 93
Pusan 89
Aegong 69
Soma 57
Snow 49
Backho 36
sSak 31
sorry 29
TY 27
ToSsGirL 27
Soulkey 26
Icarus 23
Sharp 23
soO 21
Noble 21
yabsab 19
scan(afreeca) 17
SilentControl 16
JulyZerg 14
IntoTheRainbow 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Bale 12
HiyA 11
Sexy 10
Free 9
zelot 8
Hm[arnc] 6
ivOry 5
Yoon 2
Dota 2
XaKoH 449
XcaliburYe338
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1609
shoxiejesuss610
x6flipin551
allub151
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King75
Other Games
gofns8312
FrodaN2939
singsing1878
B2W.Neo731
DeMusliM312
crisheroes259
Fuzer 134
SortOf91
QueenE32
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV500
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 24
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV195
League of Legends
• Jankos632
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
22h 37m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
23h 37m
Replay Cast
1d 12h
LiuLi Cup
1d 23h
Online Event
2 days
SC Evo League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Contender
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
4 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.