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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 05 2016 12:59 GMT
#501
Poll: Recommend Snute vs Hydra Game 1?

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
 
82%

★★★ - Good game (1)
 
9%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
9%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Snute vs Hydra Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
March 05 2016 12:59 GMT
#502
Snute needs that first loss to get his rythm, like yesterday
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
March 05 2016 12:59 GMT
#503
On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy

He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax.



He's pretty bad.

if he only had a brain
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 05 2016 12:59 GMT
#504
ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 05 2016 12:59 GMT
#505
yo Snute... upgrades are pretty good in RvR
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 05 2016 12:59 GMT
#506
That was strange..
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 05 2016 13:00 GMT
#507
Anyway, it is great, we do not have another ZvZ final ... At least, Hydra vs. Polt would be a great joke for the new WCS system, next year, they will need to ban also Koreigners. But I still hope for Snute ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2016 13:00 GMT
#508
On March 05 2016 21:59 Golgotha wrote:
ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss.

was he? had no +1 or lair, Hydra could counter attack at any moment, but he just waited for the biggest upgrade advantage (while also keeping their eco quite even)
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-05 13:01:10
March 05 2016 13:00 GMT
#509
I don't understand. If you skip all upgrades and push out only army, shouldn't you attack yourself o.O Cmon Snute, it would be so lame to have another korean finals in 2-player korean tournament ...
#1 Blitzcrank #Forever platinum toss --> current diamond Terran <3
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
March 05 2016 13:01 GMT
#510
On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy

He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax.



He's pretty bad.

What I don't understand is why.

With his control, which is still top notch I believe, I mean he used to be at or nearly at Maru's level of micro, you can pick a standard build and scout/scan for a few key gas timings/tech choices and fairly reliably get to the stage of the game where MK does very well. It wouldn't take much...
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
March 05 2016 13:01 GMT
#511
looked like Snute had never any advantage
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
March 05 2016 13:01 GMT
#512
Snute thought he was behind and that his best shot at winning was to max out with a low drone count so he would have more units than hydra. also afforded him more ravagers, so he wanted one very strong maxed out push, but hydra hit the 2-1 timing before snute maxed, so they were at even army supply instead of snute being ahead
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-05 13:02:00
March 05 2016 13:01 GMT
#513
On March 05 2016 21:59 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy

He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax.



He's pretty bad.

if he only had a brain

Yeah that would help. But he also looks really rusty. Like, he used to be a high caliber pro but on his stream his play is pretty average. Weaker than most Korean Terrans I've seen stream LotV.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
March 05 2016 13:01 GMT
#514
On March 05 2016 21:48 Elentos wrote:
I missed G3 of Nerchio vs Polt, how was it?

+1/+0(not sure on def upgrade)/stim/CS marine marauder hellbat push, Nerchio felt it was coming but still died
WriterMaru
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 05 2016 13:01 GMT
#515
On March 05 2016 22:01 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy

He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax.



He's pretty bad.

What I don't understand is why.

With his control, which is still top notch I believe, I mean he used to be at or nearly at Maru's level of micro, you can pick a standard build and scout/scan for a few key gas timings/tech choices and fairly reliably get to the stage of the game where MK does very well. It wouldn't take much...

he also doesnt have any decision making so he would never play out a normal game like Maru does
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
March 05 2016 13:01 GMT
#516
On March 05 2016 22:00 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:59 Golgotha wrote:
ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss.

was he? had no +1 or lair, Hydra could counter attack at any moment, but he just waited for the biggest upgrade advantage (while also keeping their eco quite even)

yeah I think he wasn't really ahead, less supply so he was under threat of an attack and couldn't safely transition to lair/upgrades etc which in the end was the cause of his demise
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9389 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-05 13:03:05
March 05 2016 13:01 GMT
#517
the difference between Polt and MajOr is that Polt will go for the throat when he creates advantage and he will finish the Zerg off


Polt is also a lot more cost efficient than Major. Major usually goes "all in" on being able to get an economic lead through his harass whereas that isn't as necceasary for Polt as he has the skills to be a lot more cost efficient.

If you watch the FPV of both players, you will notice that Polt spends a lot more time managing his main army whereas it takes (too) low priority for Major.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 05 2016 13:01 GMT
#518
On March 05 2016 21:59 Golgotha wrote:
ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss.


I don't think he was ahead at all afterwards. He was 13 drones behind, had no upgrades and no lair. Getting an empty third base doesn't do nearly enough.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
March 05 2016 13:02 GMT
#519
On March 05 2016 22:00 Diabolique wrote:
Anyway, it is great, we do not have another ZvZ final ... At least, Hydra vs. Polt would be a great joke for the new WCS system, next year, they will need to ban also Koreigners. But I still hope for Snute ...

I think Blizzard is just waiting for them to retire lol, banning them would be kinda messed up lol
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
March 05 2016 13:02 GMT
#520
On March 05 2016 22:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 21:59 Die4Ever wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy

He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax.



He's pretty bad.

if he only had a brain

Yeah that would help. But he also looks really rusty. Like, he used to be a high caliber pro but on his stream his play is pretty average. Weaker than most Korean Terrans I've seen stream LotV.

If you ever play him, just 1 base roach rush every single game. Worked for Symbol.
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