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On March 05 2016 22:01 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax. He's pretty bad. What I don't understand is why. With his control, which is still top notch I believe, I mean he used to be at or nearly at Maru's level of micro, you can pick a standard build and scout/scan for a few key gas timings/tech choices and fairly reliably get to the stage of the game where MK does very well. It wouldn't take much...
MKP is the antithesis of Polt. Imagine what he could have done with a brain...
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On March 05 2016 22:02 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 22:00 Diabolique wrote:
Anyway, it is great, we do not have another ZvZ final ... At least, Hydra vs. Polt would be a great joke for the new WCS system, next year, they will need to ban also Koreigners. But I still hope for Snute ... I think Blizzard is just waiting for them to retire lol, banning them would be kinda messed up lol
CatZ should smuggle some more Code A players in.
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On March 05 2016 22:01 Aocowns wrote:
Snute thought he was behind and that his best shot at winning was to max out with a low drone count so he would have more units than hydra. also afforded him more ravagers, so he wanted one very strong maxed out push, but hydra hit the 2-1 timing before snute maxed, so they were at even army supply instead of snute being ahead
+1 attack costs 100/100. that's the cost of one ravager. he could have at the very least gotten that.
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On March 05 2016 22:00 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:59 Golgotha wrote:
ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss. was he? had no +1 or lair, Hydra could counter attack at any moment, but he just waited for the biggest upgrade advantage (while also keeping their eco quite even)
well after u snipe someone's third and ur third is already up, u should use that advantage to power upgrades and catch up. but it seems like he forgot.
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On March 05 2016 22:01 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:59 Golgotha wrote:
ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss. I don't think he was ahead at all afterwards. He was 13 drones behind, had no upgrades and no lair. Getting an empty third base doesn't do nearly enough.
Yeah I agree. Hydra had +1, roach speed and more drones & +2 on the way.
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On March 05 2016 22:01 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax. He's pretty bad. What I don't understand is why. With his control, which is still top notch I believe, I mean he used to be at or nearly at Maru's level of micro, you can pick a standard build and scout/scan for a few key gas timings/tech choices and fairly reliably get to the stage of the game where MK does very well. It wouldn't take much...
Hard to play well when everyone accused you of matchfixing
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On March 05 2016 22:02 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 22:00 Diabolique wrote:
Anyway, it is great, we do not have another ZvZ final ... At least, Hydra vs. Polt would be a great joke for the new WCS system, next year, they will need to ban also Koreigners. But I still hope for Snute ... I think Blizzard is just waiting for them to retire lol, banning them would be kinda messed up lol
I hope we see some more moves into the US and see more "Koreigners" and not less.
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On March 05 2016 22:03 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 22:01 Aocowns wrote:
Snute thought he was behind and that his best shot at winning was to max out with a low drone count so he would have more units than hydra. also afforded him more ravagers, so he wanted one very strong maxed out push, but hydra hit the 2-1 timing before snute maxed, so they were at even army supply instead of snute being ahead +1 attack costs 100/100. that's the cost of one ravager. he could have at the very least gotten that.
I dunno, he might've been very scared of a +1 speed roach timing after denying the 3rd so he just kinda skimped on it and went with it
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On March 05 2016 22:03 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 22:00 Ej_ wrote:On March 05 2016 21:59 Golgotha wrote:
ugh. snute was so ahead after that 3rd snipe. bad bad loss. was he? had no +1 or lair, Hydra could counter attack at any moment, but he just waited for the biggest upgrade advantage (while also keeping their eco quite even) well after u snipe someone's third and ur third is already up, u should use that advantage to power upgrades and catch up. but it seems like he forgot.
You realize he had no drones so the third was basically useless till 1/2nd mined out. It's not like he was terran so he could at least mule with the third...
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On March 05 2016 22:04 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 22:01 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax. He's pretty bad. What I don't understand is why. With his control, which is still top notch I believe, I mean he used to be at or nearly at Maru's level of micro, you can pick a standard build and scout/scan for a few key gas timings/tech choices and fairly reliably get to the stage of the game where MK does very well. It wouldn't take much... Hard to play well when everyone accused you of matchfixing
C'mon, he was already opening cc first or proxyrax without any scouting years before that.
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On March 05 2016 22:01 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax. He's pretty bad. What I don't understand is why. With his control, which is still top notch I believe, I mean he used to be at or nearly at Maru's level of micro, you can pick a standard build and scout/scan for a few key gas timings/tech choices and fairly reliably get to the stage of the game where MK does very well. It wouldn't take much...
I've seen him solidly micro himself out of getting 2-rax reaper rushed when going CC first only to completely fail the follow-up. So yeah, MarineKing things.
Really got nothing on Polt, brain-wise. Or many other players.
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On March 05 2016 22:05 Serimek wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 22:04 Poopi wrote:On March 05 2016 22:01 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On March 05 2016 21:58 Elentos wrote:On March 05 2016 21:56 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I'm watching MK's stream right now and he still plays cc first, no scouting, not even leaving his base (!!!) until he has 5 1 1 setup. Crazy He still fluently switches between CC first no scout and proxy rax. He's pretty bad. What I don't understand is why. With his control, which is still top notch I believe, I mean he used to be at or nearly at Maru's level of micro, you can pick a standard build and scout/scan for a few key gas timings/tech choices and fairly reliably get to the stage of the game where MK does very well. It wouldn't take much... Hard to play well when everyone accused you of matchfixing C'mon, he was already opening cc first or proxyrax without any scouting years before that.
MK is the og min-maxer
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On March 05 2016 22:04 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 22:02 Die4Ever wrote:On March 05 2016 22:00 Diabolique wrote:
Anyway, it is great, we do not have another ZvZ final ... At least, Hydra vs. Polt would be a great joke for the new WCS system, next year, they will need to ban also Koreigners. But I still hope for Snute ... I think Blizzard is just waiting for them to retire lol, banning them would be kinda messed up lol I hope we see some more moves into the US and see more "Koreigners" and not less.
honestly the time when the "foreigners" made the more progress was when the Koreans who were playing in WCS NA/EU played on those regions' ladders
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wtf snute?
ah this time he droned big time
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Ugh I wish they had perma worker count :X
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On March 05 2016 22:06 sharkie wrote:
wtf snute?
Hydra likes mutalisks
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Snute should just defend he's in a fine spot
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On March 05 2016 22:07 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Ugh I wish they had perma worker count :X
yeah really bad layout it's hard to follow the game correctly
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On March 05 2016 22:07 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Ugh I wish they had perma worker count :X
It sucks. The player cams when they come up are also misplaced and awkwardly big. Interface needs work.
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On March 05 2016 22:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2016 22:07 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Ugh I wish they had perma worker count :X yeah really bad layout it's hard to follow the game correctly
back in my days the best you could do was resource count and supply, and that's only if WCG hacked the game for you
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